MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE by Michael Wolraich Order today at Barnes & Noble / Amazon / Books-A-Million / Bookshop |
somebody remastered the "Never going to give you up" tape and it's looking like some Gen Z folks are intrigued
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Reviving Woody & Mia
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/19/2021 - 5:28pm
"According to Mia, she promptly brought Dylan to a doctor. He reported it to the police. Then all hell broke loose. "
But that's not what happened. Mia took her to a doctor. Dylan didn't make any accusation against Woody. The doctor examined her and found no evidence of physical abuse. He did not report anything to the police. Then Mia spent hours making the video. Either she helped Dylan feel comfortable talking about the sexual encounter or she coached her into saying what Mia wanted. When there was a second doctor visit after making the video Dylan reported the sexual encounter and it was then reported.
There is so few articles that tell the whole story. Like this one, they leave out evidence and parts of the story to support which ever side the author is on.
by ocean-kat on Fri, 02/19/2021 - 6:48pm
You saw the 2nd article, right?
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 02/20/2021 - 2:14am
Sure. I'm not claiming you're taking sides and spinning the story to support your side. You posted a link from both sides. I don't have HBO atm so I can't watch the movie but from what I've read about it it's not really a documentary but a telling of the story from Mia's side.
by ocean-kat on Sat, 02/20/2021 - 12:51pm
Let's say I'm skeptical of the Mia side, it's funny all the condemnation of Wooody's penchant for young girls while glossing over Mia's penchant for much older men, yes Ronan looks sired by Sinatra, and yes it's odd to think of the phobic Woody going to the attic to do anything, going for 20-year-olds or whatever is far from molesting 7-year-olds, and a relationship that lasts 30 years is obviously not just a perverse fling. I think it's irresponsible to keep pushing out these stories without having something new to justify.
But the one thing that makes me wonder is, how come Woody never put Rick Astley in any of his films? It just doesn't add up.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 02/20/2021 - 1:24pm
It would be fine to rehash it if this was a documentary and the definitive story in all it's complexity. But it appears to be just another rehash of the Mia version. And I'm skeptical of that version too.
by ocean-kat on Sat, 02/20/2021 - 2:16pm
Ok, I'm an idiot but this story keeps pulling me in.
Here's a long pretty interesting interview with Soon-Yi, including early hard life in Korea, and just a kind of weird but not that weird character study and how we respond to events (did Bill & Hillary break up when the paparazzi came?), and below an interesting comment from a former many that splits the difference quite nicely.
Now I'm going to go watch the Polanski documentary my wife gave me - though I think made in Europe, so will be much more focused on the art and recent films.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 02/23/2021 - 2:23am
Forgot to link interview
https://www.vulture.com/2018/09/soon-yi-previn-speaks.html
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 03/03/2021 - 3:49am
The Lewinsky dilemma vs feminism
(when is it ok to sleep with your boss, and if a he, does he take all the blame?)
Here it's assumed that Woody Allen had the bank to destroy Farrow's career Harvey Weinstein-style. But this is a bit hard to believe, because a) Woody. only greenlighted his own films, b) he was making niche low-budget films, c) New York as film hub is tiny as compared to Hollywood, and d) Mia obviously came with her own connections,. from star parents to Frank Sinatra & Andre Previn as spouse, and she headlines in 4 movies plus TV and voiceovers not long after their breakup (not that she went in for high budget films like Meryl Streep or Julia Roberts, much less Angelina Jolie or Demi Moore). Her son Ronan obviously did well on the wrong side of Woody as well.
So why a woman-as-victim documentary & exposé?
https://www.vox.com/culture/22299192/allen-v-farrow-woody-mia-hbo-workpl...
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 03/03/2021 - 7:51am
WHY MY TEENAGE SELF GAVE WOODY ALLEN A PASS
(originally posted by ocean-kat on Fri, 03/05/2021 - 12:46pm)
Over the past 30 years, “Manhattan,” in which Mr. Allen cast himself as Isaac Davis, a middle-aged writer dating a high-school student, has repeatedly come up for moral evaluation. We are back there again, on the occasion of a new four-part HBO documentary, “Allen v. Farrow.”
URL:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/05/nyregion/woody-allen-manhattan.html
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I'm not going to get into a moral debate over the content of the movie. In fact generally I disagree with making films depicting relations between teen girls and older adult men, But the author talks like this content is unusual and reveals something about Allen and the accusation of child abuse. It's just not all that unusual even in this day and age. I recently watched Switched at Birth on netflix and the teen girls in the show a few times get involved with older adult men. It's an hour long show that first aired in 2011 that ran for 5 years so there's quite a bit of content and no controversy over the story lines of these teen girl/adult male relationships.
by ocean-kat on Fri, 03/05/2021 - 1:52pm
She was 20-21 at the start by what's written in her birth certificate, but as an adopted immigrant not completely certain
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 03/05/2021 - 4:41pm
Another round - that train?
(episode 3 of 4 - did anyone devote this much time to Trump crimes?)
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 03/14/2021 - 4:52pm
Back to Rick (not that I mind a sub-thread on Woody)--I think it could be because he's a lot like KPop?
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/19/2021 - 8:23pm
Sex & drugs & kids Rickroll is very good to me
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 02/20/2021 - 2:07am