The Bishop and the Butterfly: Murder, Politics, and the End of the Jazz Age

    Wimmin could always do just as good boy stories as men!?

    By artappraiser on Mon, 09/03/2018 - 3:36pm |

    Marie Severin, who drew most of the greatest heroes in the Marvel pantheon at a time when few women worked in comics, has died https://t.co/uoKmM2dr0p

    — New York Times Arts (@nytimesarts) September 3, 2018

    Comments


    by barefooted on Mon, 09/03/2018 - 8:25pm

    This blurb seems to misrepresent her for some political purpose while slighting what she did do. She seems to have been Marvel's chief colorist for decades, along with utility infielder as you might imagine, which included drawing. Yet the the blurb omits coloring, as if drawing were the only important facet to comics, whereas I find fascinating that there was someone focused on this aspect rather than doing it all.


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 09/03/2018 - 10:58pm

    The tweet has a detail of the main illustration for the obit, which is by her, which I paste here in full uncropped in a reduced size, with caption

    Marie Severin drew her own caricature surrounded by Marvel characters.
    “A lot of the great Marvel covers of the ’60s and ’70s were her design, and nobody knew it,”
    a comics historian said.Credit: via TwoMorrows Publishing

    The obit also has two other illustrations of her work as well as the photo that barefooted pasted


    by artappraiser on Tue, 09/04/2018 - 3:24pm

    Why is it that far too often we find out about a woman's talent that "nobody knew about" after they die?  After all, somebody not only knew about it, but employed them to do it.  And made alot of money off of their talents.  angry


    by barefooted on Tue, 09/04/2018 - 10:30pm

    I think you're overdoing it - her 2 biggest characters she designed were Spider-woman (heard of her?) and Howard the Duck's sidekick Dr. Bong. Again, her skill seemed to be especially in coloring, even though she did some pencilling and other odds-and-ends. And no, she wasn't the lynch-pin of the organization, nor in management, and by the end of the 70's she was off designing superhero toilet paper and swag - i.e. the boom was over.
    Marvel comics were heavy into *story*, the sketching of each issue was long and tedious (especially when got into pre-computer animation for films), so also a sideline from Marvel's core product, but important for its success.
    I.e. it was a big team effort, and we haven't begun to discuss marketing, licensing & distribution, i.e. where the money comes from - not just the drawing.
    And you're probably the 1st person I've run across in quite a while who seems to have expected that artists would make any money off their work (except through super promotion of someone who took most of the profits) - especially in comic books.
    Here ya go - a bit more background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Severin

     


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 09/04/2018 - 11:04pm

    Ok I give ya. The difference probably has something to do with this:

    Why women live longer than men. pic.twitter.com/beIkLFYMbN

    — Gautam Trivedi (@KaptanHindustan) September 7, 2018

    (Edit to add: I have 4 younger brothers, and I can't stop laughing at this clip.)


    by artappraiser on Sun, 09/09/2018 - 7:56am

    Originally posted by The Divine Miss M no less - bet she was the exception, being the 1 girl to tumble down the slide.


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 09/10/2018 - 5:52am

    More #boyswillbeboys


    by artappraiser on Mon, 12/03/2018 - 3:25pm

    So they ditched the ladies to go do shots at the lounge?

    In my dad's last days I used to have him hold onto a rope to strengthen his arms, and then i'd pull him down the aisles like thwse and sling him around the corners like water skiing. Nursing home mgmt loved me.


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 12/03/2018 - 4:22pm

    Sounds like you'd be a good nemesis for Nurse Ratched, though.laugh


    by artappraiser on Mon, 12/03/2018 - 7:18pm

    Oh, I was raised on a Randall Patrick McMurphy ethic. She may be a ballbuster, but a few hose fights in the scrubdown room'll bring some lighthearted fun. And we need to watch the Series...


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 12/10/2018 - 12:46am

    IT’S THE MOST WONDERFUL TIME OF THE YEAR pic.twitter.com/9kzVBGQFC9

    — Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) December 9, 2018

    Edit to add: I would like to note the post racial nature of the little patriarchal party depicted in the video. devil


    by artappraiser on Sun, 12/09/2018 - 8:43pm

    They're just celebrating

    Mr. O'Reilly.

    P.S. Good on that, for those interested in knowing more:

     


    by artappraiser on Sun, 12/09/2018 - 9:05pm

    This is fake I assume.


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 12/10/2018 - 12:49am

    If it is, I'm sure the NYPD can find you a real one. You don't have Santa Con across the pond?


    by artappraiser on Mon, 12/10/2018 - 12:54am

    No, we just have Huns and Visigoths and Vikings - overall more subdued types of barbarian.


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 12/10/2018 - 1:05am

    hey speaking of same and related, look at this from Pew, I never woulda thunk it, I'd expect inferiority complex. And the French, most humble, hah.


    by artappraiser on Mon, 12/10/2018 - 1:22am

    Wow, the non-macho Spanish - see what Pedro Almodovar's brought them to?


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 12/10/2018 - 5:27am

    Except for Greece, so much of the map wreaks havoc with my confidence in my ability to stereotype.

    UK @ 40% doesn't bode well for Brexit. 

    And what the heck is the huge difference between Sweden and Norway about? Etc.


    by artappraiser on Mon, 12/10/2018 - 12:20pm

    "punch him, punch his beard off!"


    by artappraiser on Mon, 12/17/2018 - 11:33pm