MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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By Joan Walsh, Salon.com, May 19, 2011
Melissa Harris-Perry and Adam Serwer wrote majestic takedowns of Cornel West's vicious and deeply personal rant against President Obama published this week, so I didn't think I had to. But there's one thing missing in the torrent of reaction to West I've seen this week: A recognition that maybe this is the way identity politics had to end, not with a bang but a whine. Dizzying racial and personal insults have come from all directions, and they're beginning to lose their meaning.
Much has been made of the personal pique that animated West's attack on the president:....
The most tragic thing, to me, about West's meltdown was the way he tried to frame it as a universalist defense of poor and working class people – who in fact haven't gotten enough help or attention from this too-close-to-Wall Street administration – but then somehow descends into personal attacks on the president....
Comments
Counterpoint here; I'm a fan of Brother West.
by we are stardust on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 10:54am
The author of the counterpoint piece you link to says this on the top of page 2:
I don't know if that is true or not. If it is, it would just make West look petty, or more petty, so is not helpful to West's defense, as the author means to be. West becomes personal "because he is genuinely distressed by the lack of access that he has to power"? Well, join the crowd, Cornel!
by AmericanDreamer on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 12:02pm
AA, yes I read Joan's blog this morning. I found it interesting to say the least.
It isn't one sided of course, there are plenty of those who criticize the President, who began this internecine fight, by calling anyone who supports the President, Messiah worshiping Obamabots. Frankly, I am tired of the entire thing, I am tired of both sides eating each other alive, I am tired of the in-fighting, the BS constant criticism of this President as a man, which is quite different than an honest critique of policy. Too many writers on the internet write like trolls, they name call, they attack constantly, there is no honest discussion anymore.
Cornel West is just part and parcel of what has been created in the age of real time communication.
Ugh, we've fallen down the rabbit hole, using the same attack methods on anyone who disagrees with us, proudly created by Lee Atwater. We all know while he was dying he disavowed those tactics. He saw it's detrimental impact on our nation and our politics. We don't communicate anymore, we just lecture each other. Ideological lectures don't win anyone over to any side. Ideological lectures push people deeper into their own corner, becoming more intransigent, believing their views are the right views leaving our society little room for compromise and and success. It ultimately deprives us of our humanity, because it gives us all an excuse not to treat the other side with a modicum of respect. We will never solve our problems using these tactics. We become further and further isolated from one another, which is detrimental to society at large.
I hope we move through this period quickly it is hampering our ability to accomplish good things for our country.
by tmccarthy0 on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 11:11am
Interesting to say the least.
It is quotes like the following that has people shaking their head about West:
“I think my dear brother Barack Obama has a certain fear of free black men,” West says. “It’s understandable. As a young brother who grows up in a white context, brilliant African father, he’s always had to fear being a white man with black skin. All he has known culturally is white. He is just as human as I am, but that is his cultural formation. When he meets an independent black brother, it is frightening. And that’s true for a white brother. When you get a white brother who meets a free, independent black man, they got to be mature to really embrace fully what the brother is saying to them. It’s a tension, given the history. It can be overcome. Obama, coming out of Kansas influence, white, loving grandparents, coming out of Hawaii and Indonesia, when he meets these independent black folk who have a history of slavery, Jim Crow, Jane Crow and so on, he is very apprehensive. He has a certain rootlessness, a deracination. It is understandable."
This goes back to the issue that popped up during the campaign: is he black enough? It seems to me that West is engaging in the continuation of the simplification of race, identity, and race relations. Either Obama roots himself within white culture or in black culture. There is no other alternative. To do neither leads to rootlessness, and this leads to a certain fear of free black men, with their "history of slavery, Jim Crow, Jane Crow and so on..."
In dealing with the entire spectrum of socio-economic issues that are facing this country, it becomes necessary at times to make broad generalizations about groups of people. To get into all of the subtle nuances would take forever, and the point needing to be made lost. But again it seems to me that West has embraced the simplifications so that Obama has experienced "deracination" because he does identify himself racially in a way West thinks he should given the few options available to Obama.
I think Adam Serwer said it well:
Obama's struggle to find peace with himself is essentially the opposite of "deracination," a term that takes on all the force of an epithet here. Obama is lambasted as a Kenyan anti-colonialist by the likes of Newt Gingrich, and as a wide-eyed surrogate of "upper middle class white and Jewish men" by the likes of West. To have one group of morons question your citizenship while others question your blackness. To have one's very being interrogated by those who, because of their own pathologies, see your difference as a kind of terrible mistake, an anomaly to be soothed with toxic balm of archaic social binaries, this is what it means to be black, and also a mutt.
by Elusive Trope on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 11:43am
I can't defend the personal comments West made, which were in bad taste to say the least, added nothing substantive to his critique, and in fact gives people already inclined to do so an easy excuse to dismiss whatever he says going forward because of these specific remarks.
Should he be "made into a pariah" for those specific remarks? Well, I mean Obama as President made some public comment about not making the mistake of taking a knife to a gun fight, in the context of all sorts of personally vicious stuff directed at him from all directions. No public figure is going to be allowed to disavow her or his unfortunate public words by people intent on trying to make a pariah out of them. That's just the reality.
The best someone in that situation can do is offer a sincere apology for specific things they said which, on further reflection, they feel were uncalled for and that they regret. (yes, some will say don't do that because it only calls more attention to what he already said. Which may well be true but he needs to do it anyway, I think.). Something like that. And move on. I would think that at least some of those who might potentially listen to anything Cornel West has to say, and have done so in the past, might accept an apology and not dismiss him and everything he says going forward because of these specific over-the-top remarks.
I don't recall ever hearing of anything, in his long and intensely scrutinized career, MLK publicly said or wrote that was personally vicious or over the line. He had a far broader and more attentive and influential public audience and following on that account. A worthy standard to strive for.
by AmericanDreamer on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 11:45am
"No public figure is going to be allowed to disavow her or his unfortunate public words by people intent on trying to make a pariah out of them. That's just the reality."
West is undermined by viewing him next to Melissa Harris-Perry. West looks like he might work carrying a sandwich board advertising sloppy joe's at the corner of Heartache and Vine. Harris-Perry looks like a very pretty woman with brains, education, talent, and appealing personality. It makes a difference whether it should or not. That is just the reality. I believe it is easier for white people to already be critical of West before he opens his mouth and before it is heard what he has to say when that is the pairing.
Regarding getting personal, I recall that through G. Bush's war mongering and other outrageous crimes against humanity, as well as his harmful domestic policies, a friend and I would often talk about it and would try to understand why his supporters accepted it all. At some point he would always say,"What is it going to take to get these people to admit that what is going on is wrong and to get off this guy? Is there any line that he might cross that his supporters will not cheer?"
I do not expect my opinions to make national news or to spark inside-the-beltway debate. I am just another jerk with an opinion who is trying to hold on to his metaphorical equivalent of the same, but, Obama has crossed a lot of lines that, had I expected him to cross them, would have made me work hard for a different candidate. I am not offended that West describes Obama in derogatory terms any more than I would have expected most readers here to be offended when I called Bush various derogatory names.
by A Guy Called LULU on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 12:37pm
Yeah, the 'Obama dissed me with no inaugural tickets' was lame. And given that in his religion, apologizing is a blessing, maybe he'll say sorry about some of that; I don't know. But I do know that he is peeved, as others are, that Obama has ignored the poor and poor blacks even more. It may still be true that the President hasn't met with the Black Caucus yet, which all other Presidents have done; if that's changed, it's a good thing. Unemployment among blacks is triple the national average, I think.
But West does lots of panels and outreach into communities and colleges, much like this one, though it's a video teach-in, not in person.
I like Harris-Perry; she gives me lots to consider when she calls out certain kinds of racism, but she also has a carreer now appearing on MSNBC shows, and just left Princeton (some folks think that might be partially responsible for this dust-up with West). But when she mocked him for being willing to get arrested in demonstrations with people fighting back, it really irked the socks offa me. West runs with a decidedly different crowd and class of people than she does.
This is my favorite West interview, on Craig Ferguson's show.
Communication in MLK's day wasn't like it is now; I have no idea if MLK may have thrown a hissy fit now and again. He sure wasn't a fan of JFK there for a time until Bobby took the civil rights issue as his.
by we are stardust on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 1:43pm
That's for sure. He sure did have his hissy fits in private. Or/when he was in public, reporters overhearing him might have operated with an internalized norm that if the comment wasn't meant for the record they wouldn't report it (some did back then and some do even now; the latter are known as "former reporters".) Some reporters also, not surprisingly, liked him, and, in violation of the usual norms of journalistic impartiality, acted sympathetically to the cause. The role the media played in the progress that was made on civil rights in the '50s and '60s is a story that has been told.
I've never been a big West fan. To me, he writes high generalities that I often find trite, and sometimes not terribly thoughtful or penetrating, as he does not seem to write with an awareness that not all good things can always go together (the late Isaiah Berlin's lifelong theme) but sometimes conflict with one another and require hard choices. I think there are others who do the high rhetoric writing more effectively, for me at least. Neither have I disliked him--it's more that I find the effusive portrayal of him by his fans difficult to understand.
When you wrote, "But when she [Harris-Perry] mocked him for being willing to get arrested in demonstrations with people fighting back,.." by "fighting back" do you mean nonviolent, civil disobedience-type demonstrations? If so, I agree with you and presumably West that a willingness to participate in that way can be admirable. It may not be the best tactic in a given situation, might even be counter-productive. But a willingness to do that peacefully can be admirable, I think, and if Harris-Perry thinks it cannot be then I'd have some questions for her about her version of how and why we have civil rights in this country if I could ask her.
by AmericanDreamer on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 2:07pm
I'm sorry; I'm doing far too many things today to do any of them well. This was in her piece at The Nation; she constantly conflates West with Smiley (I am not a fan) like many others do.
"Instead, West seems determined to keep black politics tethered to a patronage model of politics. He tells Hedges:
“Our last hope is to generate a democratic awakening among our fellow citizens. This means raising our voices, very loud and strong, bearing witness, individually and collectively. Tavis [Smiley] and I have talked about ways of civil disobedience, beginning with ways for both of us to get arrested…”
God help us if Cornel West and Tavis Smiley getting arrested is our last chance at a democratic awakening."
Both may be a bit full of themselves, IMO. At least for now. But West sees how crucial it is for help to come to those without jobs and food, while we are advised to accept austerity, IMO, while corporate and bank profits are sky-rocketing.
by we are stardust on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 2:51pm
West undermines his credibility by ranting spitefully about all the ways in which Obama has personally snubbed him. Kinda pathetic. It's too bad because he could have just gone with the policy complaints.
by Obey on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 11:54am
Cornell West is principled. Obama is pragmatic.Both admirable ..
West tries to live in a manner that's consistent with what he teaches as a moral philosopher..
Barak Obama tries to be an effective president. Which requires being willing to be inconsistentand ,if you will, unprincipled, that is willing to act in conflict with his personal principles. For example,make peace with the Taliban even while he abhors the cruel regime they will reinstall
by Flavius on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 12:43pm
I admire it when people live up to principles which I admire. When a person's pragmatism has them grossly violating principles [and laws] which I admire and which they claimed to hold, then my admiration takes a hard turn. Pragmatism is not always admirable and when it is not admirable it is often not successfully pragmatic.
http://warincontext.org/2011/05/19/assassination-nation-are-there-any-li...
The video linked at the bottom of the essay is particularly good, IMO.
by A Guy Called LULU on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 1:03pm
I did check out the video. Thanks
West is a good man who lives up to his principles
Obama is a good enough man who lives up to his principles as much as he can.
by Flavius on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 8:45pm
Moreover, given that Obama is a politician--the president of country, many of whose citizens and representatives adamantly oppose him and try to undermine him--and Cornel West is a professor and the autocratic ruler of his classroom and the books he writes and speeches he gives...
...which one has an inherently harder job living up to his principles?
by Peter Schwartz on Fri, 05/20/2011 - 7:57am
Ta-Nehisi Coates chiming in at his Atlantic blog:
Gathering the Tribe, May 17, 2011
Highly recommend the long discussion thread.
by artappraiser on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 10:32pm