MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE by Michael Wolraich Order today at Barnes & Noble / Amazon / Books-A-Million / Bookshop |
"Is there a market for an anti-Trump Republican Party now?” said one prominent member of the anti-Trump Lincoln Project. “I would say no.”
By Laura Barron-Lopez & Holly Otterbein @ Politico.com, Dec. 17
[....] More than a dozen leaders of the never-Trump movement said in interviews that they see their work as far from over once Joe Biden is sworn in on Jan. 20. They want to keep the heat on Republicans who serve as Trump foot soldiers and to provide cover for those who reject far-out conspiracy theories and attacks on democracy [....]
Just keeping the coalition that elected Biden together “will be a challenge in and of itself,” said Evan McMullin, who mounted a conservative third-party presidential bid in 2016. Moving forward, the movement has to “bring more Republicans on to our side of this fight.”
Some said they intend to shield Republican lawmakers who stand up to Trump. Others floated forming a third party. And still others want to direct their energies toward rebuilding trust in government and using Trump’s ouster as momentum for reforms on government ethics, taking a page from the post-Watergate playbook.
“Can we recruit never-Trumpers to run? Can we find moderate candidates to run, is that the best thing to do? Is the best thing to do to be more helpful to Biden? I don’t think there’s any clear answers right now,” said Tim Miller, a former spokesperson for Jeb Bush and a leading never-Trumper who left the Republican Party in November [....]
[....] If he runs again, that would keep the activists united, but many are skeptical he’ll follow through. Polls show that two-thirds of Republican voters think Trump didn’t legitimately lose [....]
Some never-Trump leaders said their biggest potential impact is within the Biden administration and the Democratic Party, not the GOP. They’re looking to leverage friendships they’ve forged within Biden’s circle to pull the new president toward the center — all but ensuring he will be squeezed by the left and right. Biden’s coalition included a record number of crossover endorsements from past Republican officials at all levels of government [....]
Comments
meanwhile I see Lincoln Project sez:
by artappraiser on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 12:30pm
I just now put this up...
by oldenGoldenDecoy on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 12:53pm
Just a tip for those who are TPM members, I've noticed that Josh always includes free access to "members only" articles if he tweets them, as he did with that article, so you don't have to use up "tokens" if he's tweeted it. Just check his feed https://twitter.com/joshtpm. You don't even have to save that link, just go to Twitter.com and type "Josh Marshall" into the search box and you'll find it.
by artappraiser on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 2:08pm
They are going to have to survey the political climate after Biden is elected. I remember their ads - they didn't simply campaign against Trump but also for Biden. I would also recommend they keep an eye on the southwest. That area came out for Biden big time but has very conservative areas.
by Orion on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 1:56pm
I think it is an important point to make about this article is that it is not just about The Lincoln Project people, who were mostly wiseass career political operatives, but about all "Never Trumpers" including politicians who may or may not have quit the Republican party. Think people like Bill Kristol, Jeff Flake and others like him who quit their offices, all career prosecutors like Preet Bharara, Jeb Bush types, all the exiles from the Trump administration itself, like Rex Tillerson and Jim Mattis, and lots of Pentagon brass who are still conservative but probably hate the idea of the GOP becoming the Trump party, etc. etc...
More liberal types really enjoyed The Lincoln Project because it was just great fun seeing them turn their savvy against Trump instead of the Democratic party as they had in past career life.
But the hatred of what Trump did to the GOP is more diverse than just them. As they say, it's complicated. But you know what? I'm personally very hopeful that in Biden we possibly have one of the best available to navigate this mess of changing political alliances. He's got incredible experience navigating the Senate for decades as a moderate, the important point is: he knows what he did wrong in the past, what didn't work. And his agenda couldn't be better: make things better for the country he loves before he dies, all past agendas he might have had to pander to, over and done with.
by artappraiser on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 2:31pm
wow, trending right now on Twitter hard core MAGA are trying to leave the Republican party, which they consider traitors to Trump, trying to form their own The Patriot Party:
by artappraiser on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 2:38pm
there's a new trending, the "patriots" are apparently after the Chief Justice as a traitor with lots of tweets trending for John Roberts. It's possible this WaPo article inspired some Qanon type to start the meme?
by artappraiser on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 4:58pm
Will Dan Crenshaw be sidelined?
Will GOP slander and bad-boy behavior start to be punished?
https://www.salon.com/2020/12/16/exclusive-dan-crenshaw-hit-with-ethics-...
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 2:57pm
on Crenshaw, Josh Marshall retweeted this about 2 hrs. ago with no comment:
by artappraiser on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 7:16pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 5:21pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 5:24pm
noticed this was big news yesterday, Roger Stone threatening to primary Marco Rubio and Rick Scott, there was some buzz teasing Rubio about it by Lincoln Project types, how Trump donors were thinking bout this, how you can lick boots and still not get respect from the hard core MAGA crew:
by artappraiser on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 5:37pm
both Lincoln Project and Mitt Romney currently making noise on the Russian hacking, see here
by artappraiser on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 5:41pm
Oh my gawd . . .
Nothing exists if it's not twitter?
twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter...
twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter...
twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter...
twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter...
twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter...
twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter...
Can we just call this the dag/twitter blog?
~OGD~
by oldenGoldenDecoy on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 6:52pm
You have other options.
You could even, gasp, post something useful yourself!
Wouldn't that surprise the class!?!
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 7:09pm
I already did . . .
Scroll your lazy asteroid-orifice ^^up 13 posts^^ in this thread.
Thu, 12/17/2020 - 12:53pm
~OGD~
by oldenGoldenDecoy on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 7:27pm
Fuck off, asshat. We were fine without your pedantic games and gifs - if you think your childish taunting buys you something besides diversion in retirement, no, it don't.
So post some more *real* stuff, quit taunting, or i start deleting your crap. Or just go back to TPM playground which you seem to enjoy more, i simply don't care.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 9:52pm
Deleting?
Are we getting angry?
Which is it?
History and Etymology for asshat
Ah the power of the inner-tubes.
It's all like...
~OGD~
by oldenGoldenDecoy on Fri, 12/18/2020 - 12:38am
Wow, quoting Josh, quoting That 70s TV Show via Wikipedia - now i understand why you have nothing to write - between posting a duck gif and copying a paragraph every few days...
~YOURE TOO BUSY~
[PS - there was just a major Russian hack, Trump tried a bit of a coup, the Senate balance is decided in special election in 2 weeks, over 3000 people are dying each day from Covid as new vaccinations go out/are delayed, and a myriad of other political topics that are the reason we spend time here. I'm sorry if you want to discuss your dick, sorry duck, or the Emperor's "too many tweets" ("but Your Highness, remove which ones?") or whatever you think you need, but no one is interested except rmrd likes your tag on support here and there, but he's held his own solo all these years - so why don't you just blog about some news that interests you rather than trying to make yourself the center of attention or tell people how they should post? You were largely absent for years, so it's not like this place needed you or your opinion to keep going, but pull up a real topic and fire away.]
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 12/18/2020 - 2:13am
You hammering whiskey?
No no no... Not wikipedia... None other than...
merriam-webster.com/dictionary/asshat ... and scroll down.
Ah not only the power but the wonders of the inner-tubes.
~OGD~
by oldenGoldenDecoy on Fri, 12/18/2020 - 2:46am
Ok, next dumbass totally useless comment and you're suspended for 3 days.
Life's too short for this.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 12/18/2020 - 3:11am
Hey . . .
I'm on Holiday break...
No need to dump me.
~OGD~
by oldenGoldenDecoy on Sat, 12/19/2020 - 7:02am
Great, maybe come back in a more creative participatory mood.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 12/19/2020 - 7:13am
Didn't you know: that the news section here has always been exclusively set up for links from other sources.
Just kind of like: how many people use Twitter, to link to news stories, go figure!
by artappraiser on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 7:22pm
Oh my gawd 2.0 . . .
The great thing about the inner-tubes. C&P...
twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter...
twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter...
twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter...
twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter...
twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter...
twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter... twitter...
Can we just call this the dag/twitter blog?
~OGD~
by oldenGoldenDecoy on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 7:31pm
Did you also complain about Google News, grampa? Given to yelling "hey you kids get off my lawn?"
I share what I think interesting in news that I run across as at the same time I post professionally on arts topics on Twitter. (I have 300+ followers there in my field.)
Would you prefer I stop dropping stories here as I see them and then you can have like only 2 posts per day in the "In the News:" section?
I can.
I've really just about had it with hearing complaints instead of "thanks for the links and the news" I don't do it for complaints.
Others would you like me to stop as well? No one thanks me any more. It would be silly of me to keep doing something that is despised instead of appreciated. I'm not a masochist.
You, on the other hand, seem to want to make this place one that is empty except for people posting insults and gifs. That, or you are on a crusade to shut it down.
btw since you don't appear to know how to use Twitter, your guy Josh Marshall follows and interacts with 827 grownup colleagues there in order to keep up with NEWS and interact with colleagues as well as grow his audience for TPM. Still, I doubt very much that he has 349,000 paid members at TPM, but he does have that number of followers on Twitter.
by artappraiser on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 7:53pm
I have posted a couple of times thanking you for your contributions to this site. Hopefully you can find a way to ignore the complaints.
by ocean-kat on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 8:25pm
The great thing about the inner tubes is you can piss off any time you want and you won't be missed. Or you can join in contributing serious content for the news junkies here in whatever form it's in, or simply read in silence the pieces in formats you prefer. But you won't be running around just childishly pissing on content formats (and thereby the people who do that work for others) just to pull a huffy.
In case you haven't noticed, the Twitter format tends to give a short already-written summary and visual to decide quickly whether someone wants to see more, rather than the previously blind clicks following just URLs. That to some of us is a timesaver and improvement. I preferred Gopher to WWW for a short bit back in 1991, but I adapted to visuals and non-Usenet feeds, can you imagine?
PS - nearly 40 years ago I was pulling short news blurbs off the teletype from AP and UPI to read to people over the air on the hour. Pretty sure not a single one was over 280 chars, but people lapped it up. Little did they know they'd one day meet your disapproval.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 10:24pm
I really only care about a tweet when it has a link to an article. Most of them reposted here do. Do you think your gifs are more informative?
by ocean-kat on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 7:28pm
Deplorables out. Fuckers in. 4
shortlong yearsby PeraclesPlease on Thu, 12/17/2020 - 11:04pm
Took 4 years, but message delivered.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 12/18/2020 - 12:28am
found retweeted by Reed Galen of The Lincoln Project:
by artappraiser on Sat, 12/19/2020 - 2:03am
Ah, but categories and policies are fungible - it's moral principles that keep us aligned, like watching your wife get boffed by a pool boy in the name of Jesus Christ, or owning the libs by helping a few hundred thousand die of a wicked flu. No one (except Donald and half the Republicans) said making America great again would be easy. #MAGA2020 - i was so much older then, I'm younger than that now...
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 12/19/2020 - 3:49am
by artappraiser on Wed, 12/23/2020 - 12:46am
^ who is really "spintering" who and what?
by artappraiser on Wed, 12/23/2020 - 12:48am