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By jollyroger on Fri, 01/22/2016 - 11:07pm |
So, Hillary, have you had enough, or are you hungry for some more?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nwRiuh1Cug
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sometimes you don't mind being manipulated...
by jollyroger on Fri, 01/22/2016 - 11:09pm
And Republicans are counting on it.
by barefooted on Sat, 01/23/2016 - 12:08am
Fair enough, but I am free o infer from the manipulation the buttons that the manipulator believes make me vulnerable.
I'd rather sign up with the guy who seems to have a better opinion of me
by jollyroger on Sat, 01/23/2016 - 12:41am
It's a great ad, no doubt - probably the best of any campaign thus far. But what in it makes you believe that he has a better opinion of you than Clinton has? It is boiling down to a heart vs head campaign (at least in Iowa and New Hampshire), and I'm appreciative of the fact that Clinton's opinion of me is that I'm able to want progress without expecting more than what can reasonably be attained.
It's not particularly heartwarming, I know. Yet because her vision expects more of me, expects me to pay attention and care about the boring stuff that is governing, I feel truly and honestly appreciated.
by barefooted on Sat, 01/23/2016 - 2:11am
you mentined the pugs--that's who I had in moind. they think i'm an ignorant punk
by jollyroger on Sat, 01/23/2016 - 2:13am
How do you think Sanders will change that - beyond one or more good political ads?
by barefooted on Sat, 01/23/2016 - 2:29am
beyond one or more good political ads?
Did I mention "manipulation?"
by jollyroger on Sat, 01/23/2016 - 5:06pm
There ought to be a service to translate Hillary Speak so the rubes can fully appreciate her wisdom. In Obama Speak her statement would be 'shut up and eat your peas', in Rahm Speak it would be 'fucking retards' but HRC's handlers know the passive aggressive royal decree approach is what will work for her subjects. Subjects know how to follow their betters such as her, soon to be, Highness and while they are encouraged to follow the bouncing ball, decisions on what is possible or desired are best handled by those who already control the system and HRC is one of their leading mouthpieces.
by Peter (not verified) on Sat, 01/23/2016 - 1:28pm
I don't think most people need a service to translate Hillary speak but since you're having difficulty understanding I'll be happy to help you out.
Clinton vigorously defended President Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act. “We finally have a path to universal health care,” Clinton said. “And I don’t want us to start over with a contentious debate.”
What Hillary is saying here is that in her opinion the ACA is the first step toward universal health care and that she doesn't want to start over with another contentious debate over Sanders plan for single payer.
"To tear it up and start over again... I think is the wrong direction," Clinton said
Her Hillary is saying that to tear up the ACA, commonly referred to as Obamacare, and start all over again is, in her opinion, the wrong direction.
“He has voted with the NRA, the gun lobby, numerous times,”
When Hillary uses the pronoun "he" she is referring to Bernie Sanders. She's saying that Sanders has voted with the NRA, the gun lobby, numerous times.
I'm having some trouble understanding why you need this service. Seems to me anyone with a high school education would easily understand Hillary speak. The sentences are clear and the vocabulary is pretty basic. Are you having a similar dilemma with Sanders speak? I think his sentences are clear too but I'd be happy to explain them for you. Anyway, I hoped this helped with your confusion.
by ocean-kat on Sat, 01/23/2016 - 2:19pm
TMac can probably address best, but I think we largely got HillaryCare with ObamaCare - 60%? - which is better than typical batting average, worse than free throw percentage. But I'm sure after 1993 she knows half a loaf is better than no loaf, and after SCHIP 1998 she knows that significant incremental progress is possible, even with extreme opposition.
I'm having trouble understanding how many people are begging for single payer. I get how their might be a grassroots rebellion over Wall Street & money in politics, though not likely, but after 8 years of health care talk, the public's still animated over health care? Somehow I think it's still more the "non-Washington authentic voice" vs. the "jaded establishment voice", and then sprinkle a few issues on to make it seem topical and rational, whether those issues make sense or not. Terms like Halo Effect and Confirmation Bias should pop up about now.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 01/24/2016 - 3:40pm
Yes and no--the experience of dealing with the deductible and co pay consequences of a no public option system may yet produce sufficient contradictions to energize some form of change--I think that the window is about to open for state single payer experiments (tho the vermont one didn't go very well...)
by jollyroger on Sun, 01/24/2016 - 6:53pm
by jollyroger on Sun, 01/24/2016 - 9:51pm
oops wrong thread
by jollyroger on Sun, 01/24/2016 - 9:50pm
Where's Mrs Robinson? I saw The Graduate and figure it segued to Midnight Cowboy, at least for Dustin Hoffman, followed by Straw Dogs and Rain Man, maybe Pacino in Dog Day Afternoon. Not much for this Lake Woebegone image of America. More for people into 80s NPR
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 01/23/2016 - 4:15am
Great ad.
God, I love Vermont. Of course they all look alike up there but the general store is the image of the one not far from where my old house, full of books, is languishing. Why would anyone leave that and live in Texas?
Very high taxes, too much snow.
by Oxy Mora on Sat, 01/23/2016 - 9:40am
Maybe it's tough to live in Vermont, but it;'s a better place to die
by jollyroger on Sat, 01/23/2016 - 5:03pm
From YouGov in Iowa - age breakdown -
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 01/25/2016 - 4:37pm
Odd, you'd have thought Bernie would do better than 28% of the Simon and Garfunkle demographic...
by jollyroger on Mon, 01/25/2016 - 7:29pm
I mean, considering the music, and all...
by jollyroger on Mon, 01/25/2016 - 7:31pm
I'm not much into political commercials. Mostly pure emotion, no intellect or information. They're designed to get votes from people who don't read. Coming to America was never one of my favorite S&G songs. I'd suggest this instead.
by ocean-kat on Mon, 01/25/2016 - 9:16pm
Catchy.
I notice that you have conflated the quasi-inspirational Neil Diamond "Coming to America" with S&G's bus odyssy from michigan to the 59th st. bridge...
by jollyroger on Mon, 01/25/2016 - 9:28pm
Des, I gotta thank you for turning me onto the "Sanders Skew" (young) so to speak. It will not surprise you to learn that I went straight to the website and volunteered for this saturday--at least half of that 74 % has to b....uh, never mind,
by jollyroger on Mon, 01/25/2016 - 7:52pm
Waist deep in America's future, eh? You're like the grim reaper or pied piper or.... the jolly roger - and you know they all look up to an old guy, so substitution effect's easy to carry out. Yo ho ho and a buttle of rum.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 01/26/2016 - 1:45am