Chaotic scene in Boston area after explosions, gunfire, fatal shooting of MIT officer [Update: 1 Marathon suspect killed, 1 at large]

By artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 3:24am |

By Becky Bratu, Kerry Sanders and Tom Winter, NBC News, April 19, 2013, 3am

Police, federal agents and even National Guardsmen descended on Boston suburb where there were reports of violence, gunshots and two loud booms Thursday night into early Friday morning — all following the fatal shooting of a Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer.

The large law-enforcement presence gathered in Watertown, Mass, just a few miles from the shooting on MIT's Cambridge campus, where two men had reportedly shot at police officers.

The Watertown scene was marked by reports of rapid gunfire and explosions.

WNBC’s Jonathan Dienst said FBI and local police were looking for a connection between the Boston Marathon bombs and the incidents in Watertown and MIT. “Dozens and dozens” of federal agents had been dispatched to the crime scenes [.....]

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One suspect in Marathon bombing apprehended, another remains at large [after firefight with police in Watertown]

Boston.com (Boston Globe), April 19, 2013 [wee hours, constantly being updated]

WATERTOWN — One suspect in Monday’s Boston Marathon bombings has been apprehended, according to an official with knowledge of the investigation. Another appears to remain on the loose in Watertown after a firefight with police. A 20-block perimeter was established as authorities searched for him.

A scene of chaos descended on Cambridge and Watertown late Thursday night and early Friday morning, as police confirmed an MIT police officer was shot and killed, and an apparent carjacking led police on a frenetic chase into Watertown. Hundreds of police officer flooded Cambridge and Watertown.

A spokesman for the MBTA said that a transit officer had been shot and was in serious condition.

Witnesses in Watertown said they heard explosions. Police officers were screaming about improvised explosive devices.

Massachusetts State Police spokesman David Procopio said early Friday that the violent events at MIT and Watertown appeared to be connected, and that federal authorities were investigating whether the violence of Thursday night and Friday was connected to the marathon bombings.

At least one of the suspects in Watertown appeared to be a man in his 20s.

FBI agents were on the scene.

“We are aware of the situation, we are being involved, and we are monitoring,” said an FBI representative who requested anonymity because of not being authorized to speak publicly. The FBI source said early Friday it is “too early to speculate” on a relation to the Marathon bombing.

Dozens of police officers descended on Watertown Square after midnight.

“This is still extremely dangerous,” an FBI agent said. The Cambridge bomb squad arrived in Watertown shortly after 1:30 a.m. [....]

Boston Globe link to same story:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/18/mit-police-officer-hit-gunfi...

Note notice on top of their pages that they have turned off the paywall, that the site is "Currently Available to All Readers."

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 4:14am

Currently CNN TV says the "black hat" Marathon bombing suspect was shot and killed in Watertown this evening and the "white hat" suspect is still at large. There was another man, who was apprehended and taken into a police car naked (told to strip because of bombs being used;) he was actually just an innocent witness and has been released now after questioning. The police have formerly announced there is a "terrorist on the loose" in that Watertown area and call for people to stay in their homes and not to answer their door unless it is a clearly identified police officer.

[posted before the comment below--around 4:30--but edited afterwards for clarification, hence the later timestamp.)

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 5:12am

Streaming live coverage from WCVB/Channel 5 (ABC) in Boston

http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon

I watched for a while, it was an emergency police press conference (not clear whether a repeat or live of the press conference.) What I heard confirmed everything I heard said on CNN in the comment above. In addition, I heard the officer warn motorists not to stop for anyone, and also that they had a video from late Thursday of the suspect who is still at large from a 7-11 in Cambridge, and described what he was wearing-a grey hoodie.

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 4:54am

I now read on Boston.com's slideshow captions that the police conference I was watching was Commissioner Edward Davis spoke during a media briefing in the parking lot of the Watertown Mall, photo credit: Associated Press:

Chaotic definitely appears to be an accurate headline word to use here.

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 5:38am

Continuing Tweets and photos from a guy stuck in his Watertown home very near the action:

https://twitter.com/AKitz

He is the same person I read quoted in several of the mainstream news pieces over an hour ago (before it was known for sure that this involved the Marathon suspects,) like this NYTimes report; the relevant graphs from the article:

A Watertown resident, Andrew Kitzenberg, 29, said he looked out his third-floor window to see two young men of slight build in jackets engaged in “constant gunfire” with police officers. A police SUV “drove towards the shooters,” he said, and was shot at until it was severely damaged. It rolled out of control, Mr. Kitzenberg said, and crashed into two cars in his driveway.

The two shooters, he said, had a large, unwieldy bomb that he said looked “like a pressure cooker.”

“They lit it, still in the middle of the gunfire, and threw it. But it went 20 yards at most.” It exploded, he said, and one of the two men ran toward the gathered police officers. He was tackled, but it was not clear if he was shot, Mr. Kitzenberg said.

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 5:29am

I have been following on Reddit and Boston Police scanner all night. They have been keeping the suspect in a perimeter and now that it is dawn are pulling together "less lethal shotguns" and starting to track.

Setting up a beanbag at a location, which I assume is for a marksman?

by erica20 on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 6:11am

http://tunein.com/radio/Boston-Police-Fire-and-EMS-Scanner-s146109/#

by erica20 on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 6:53am

Thanks, erica.

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 1:09pm

I have been watching all night the live feed from channel 7 in Boston. The feed is slowing down because people are now waking up and looking at the feed. http://www1.whdh.com/video/7newslive

by trkingmomoe on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 7:23am

Thanks for admitting that, momoe.

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 12:55pm

So much developing so fast, impossible to keep up. If Hollywood tried the story so far in a movie, many would criticize it as over the top, Incredible recent news conference with their uncle, just one example. This is just part of what I just saw played on CNN, can't find a longer clip right now.

Visit NBCNews.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

He also talked very passionately about most in the family being proud immigrants, mentioned the Chinese girl's death with great empathy, about their father working hard fixing cars....

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 12:31pm

more from the uncle's press conference--"...he put a shame on the entire family; he put a shame on the entire Chechen ethnicity...."

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t1#/video/us/2013/04/19/nr-briefing-unc...

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 1:07pm

Here's another "incredible" example, from The Lede @ nytimes.com

11:37 A.M.Chechen Leader Notes Suspects Were Raised in U.S.

Responding to news that the two suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings were young Chechen refugees who had lived in the United States for several years, Chechnya’s president, Ramzan Kadyrov, turned to Instagram to defend the honor of his nation.

Трагические события произошли в Бостоне. В результате теракта погибли люди. Мы ранее выразили… instagram.com/p/YSluFiiRnQ/
— RKadyrov (@RKadyrov) April 19, 2013

In a comment posted on his frequently updated account on the social network, Mr. Kadyrov said that any attempt to connect the act of terrorism to Chechnya would be “in vain.”

As the Guardian’s Moscow correspondent Miriam Elder notes, the former warlord argued that because the brothers “grew up in the United States, their views and beliefs were formed there.”

"They grew up in the US, their views and beliefs were formed there": @rkadyrov
— Miriam Elder (@MiriamElder) April 19, 2013

Mr. Kadyrov, who has been accused of using torture, kidnapping and murder to rule Chechnya, added: “It is necessary to seek the roots of evil in America.”

— Robert Mackey

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 12:53pm

Yep, the younger one lived there until 7 - older than the "give us your children til they're 5, they belong to us forewer" warning by Catholics.

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 2:47pm

Friend: Suspect justified terrorism

CNN Newsroom|Added on April 19, 2013 (video)
Eric Machado went to school with bombing suspect Dzhokar Tsarnaev and says he once tried to justify terrorism.

Neighbor: Dzhokar was a 'lovely kid'

CNN Newsroom|Added on April 19, 2013 (video)
Larry Aaronson, neighbor of Boston bombing suspect Dzhokar Tsarnaev, says Dzhokar was "grateful to be here."

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 1:42pm

I just listened to this quickly--did Machado really say that he knew the identity of the guy in the FBI photos and didn't call in because he didn't want to throw his friend under the bus?

by erica20 on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 2:11pm

That's the way I took it, but he also implied that in retrospect that was not a correct way to think.

I also saw another CNN interview with two school friends that I can't find on the site. They expressed shock and described being part of a motley rainbow crew of immigrant friends including a lot of different ethnicities that hung out together, and described him as one of the nicest and most supportive of that group of friends.

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 3:08pm

Good roundup of the info. known on the brothers' background so far:

Suspects described as brothers from Russian Caucasus
By Deborah Feyerick and Tom Watkins, CNN, uupdated 1:11 PM EDT, Fri April 19, 2013

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 1:41pm

Tamerlan must be evil - said our wars in Iraq & Afghanistan were "stupid". Obviously wanted to destroy our economy.

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 2:22pm

The aunt who sponsored the boys' family to come to the U.S. was also just recently shown on TV talking to the press. I don't have time to find a video link, but it was fascinating because she seemed to be a true political refugee type, and she was suggesting that this must all be a government setup, that her nephews simply could not have done this. She implied that it's like dejas vus allover again for her, that she lived that way for many years in the old country/countries, knowing of others being set up by the government and fearing being set up oneself. She said the photos of the boys at the bombing must be faked and criticized the government for not taking her hotline call and information seriously enough. Her presentation was not extremely passionate or angry, much more controlled and analytical and gentle, than the uncle, expressing distress more than anything else. She really did appear to me to be someone with experience of government persecution.

CNN cut it off after a while, the anchor implying because of her conspiracy theorizing that she must have denial issues. But she seemed a highly intelligent and educated woman and even if having denial issues, it would have been interesting to hear more.

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 3:07pm

I think this is a good point AA. Many people from the former Soviet Union and satellite republics have lived under the foot of a corrupt, scheming government. It alters a person's thinking.

by erica20 on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 3:45pm

And I didn't necessarily get the feeling she was accusing the U.S. government of doing this, I should have made that more clear but it was a quickie comment before an appointment.

I took what she was saying more along the lines of "the F.B.I. hasn't a clue how nefarious the powers-that-be from where we come from can be." (And one does have to admit that if you're talking just about Chechnya vs. Russia, as a general statement, that would be an understatement.)

The reason I found it interesting is she implied she called the hotline and was sort of brushed off, maybe after a polite interview. If you look at this from U.S. law enforcement p.o.v., they're in the middle of an open crisis, and they hear from this aunt who says something like "listen, no chance my nephews are the real perps here, they were probably picked out as good dupes for a scheme by the **** gang, it's looks nearly exactly like the operation they did in Dagestan..." etc. And that's the last thing they want to deal with right now, they just want to get her remaining nephew off the street.

I suspect it's going to be very interesting what she says in the future, whether crazy in denail or not. She struck me as the type not to shy away from tussling with the KGB in the old days...the kind they would lock up in a mental institution because they couldn't handle her any other way.

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 6:08pm

Yes. In this context, "set up" may mean something different from what we'd think it means.

by erica20 on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 6:17pm

Of course, 'others' are always set-up by the government so why not your kin in Boston?

Whatever government wherever they are, regardless of the body count, the shootouts, the carjackings, the store robbery video, the bombs thrown out of their stolen vehicle.

Just good 'boys'. They never did nuthin', no how to nobody. Framed by the guv'ment. I would agree this woman is at the far fruitcake end of the denial of reality curve.

by NCD on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 4:07pm

It's more complex than that. She's from a very tribal place with bad, intrusive govt. Now she lives in Canada, where people tend (correctly perhaps) to have a less gung-ho view of the US govt than many Americans. Plus, if it's somebody in your family, you're bound to be thinking "There has to be an explanation for this."

And then, there's just the stereotype, perhaps somewhat culturally valid, that Russians are cranky and suspicious...especially about anything to do with govt.

As a not-very-good analogy, think about the computer guy who recently committed suicide (sorry, forget the name.) Depending on how you saw the situation, he was a hero, a danger to society, a misunderstood genius, or just a much-loved relative. I don't think you can expect relatives, especially at this point in the game, to have much by way of useful analysis.

by erica20 on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 4:31pm

CNN's website has a video clip from her statements up now, it's just a snippet, but gives an idea: of where she's at:

Suspects' aunt: Where is the evidence?

CNN|Added on April 19, 2013

Maret Tsarnaev, aunt of the Boston bombing suspects, says she is suspicious the pictures of her nephews were staged.

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 5:44pm

Aunt Maret Tsarnaeva interview, CBS:

Tamerlan married and had a 3-year-old daughter in the U.S., she said.

"He has a wife in Boston and from a Christian family, so you can't tie it to religion," she said.

But she said Tamerlan "seemingly did not find himself yet in America, because it's not easy."

Tamerlan wasn't a devout practicing Muslim, "but just recently, maybe two years ago, he started praying five times a day," she said....

I'll refer interpretation of the bold type to our resident Dag psychologists, AA/Erica.

Specifically what is 'it' and what can't you tie to 'it'? What does the wife being from a Christian family have to do with 'it'? Is this a valid defense of her nephews?

by NCD on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 6:26pm

NCD, do I detect a hint of archness there? :^) I probably deserve it.

Anyhoo, I'll jump in on this one--I think the "it" is violence toward Americans, and no, it's not a valid defense of her nephews. But he's married to a Christian!" has the ring of "...but some of my best friends are Black/Gay/Hispanic!" It was a moral flail--an attempt to use an exception to pretend that a rule doesn't exist. I think she knew it was BS when she said it.

by erica20 on Sat, 04/20/2013 - 12:22pm

Dad (now in Russia) suspects a frame job too:

5:18 P.M. The Lede/New York Times Interview With Suspects’ Father

Here is a transcript of a telephone interview with Anzor Tsarnaev, the father of the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings, conducted Friday by Ellen Barry and Andrew Roth of The New York Times’s Moscow bureau.

Q.

Anything strange when you last spoke to your sons?

A.

Nothing strange, nothing at all. Everything is normal, everything is well, nothing new. Everything was thought up there…. Something is wrong. They have been framed. I am watching TV and cannot believe it. What are they talking about Watertown? He didn’t live there…. How could he live there? This is where the lie begins, why are they saying this crap?

Dzhokhar has not been in Russia since 2001. Tamerlan did come. He came to renew his passport. He stayed here and left, but did not want to go. He wanted to stay here because it was hard for him to work there.

Q.

Did he want to stay in Russia? [......continued @ link]

Reading the whole thing highly recommended. And note this link there after the end of the transcript:

As CNN reported, Anzor Tsarnaev made similar charges, that his sons had been framed, in an interview with Russian state television on Friday. Mr. Tsarnaev also said that he had been questioned by the Russian security services.

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 6:40pm

FBI interviewed dead Boston bombing suspect years ago
CBS News/ April 19, 2013, 6:44 PM Updated 6:50 p.m. ET

The FBI admitted Friday they interviewed the now-deceased Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev two years ago and failed to find any incriminating information about him.

As first reported by CBS News correspondent Bob Orr, the FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, the elder brother of at-large bombing suspect Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, at the request of a foreign government to see if he had any extremist ties, but failed to find any linkage.

Both Tsarnaev brothers were legal permanent residents of the U.S. There is no evidence so far that either brother received any tactical training.

CBS News correspondent John Miller reports it is likely Russia asked to have the elder Tsarnaev vetted because of suspected ties to Chechen extremists.

The FBI is likely to have run a background check [....]

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 7:07pm

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: Boston bombing suspect was 'a lovely, lovely kid'
By Matt Williams in New York and Miriam Elder in Moscow, guardian.co.uk, 19 April 2013 13.41 EDT

19-year-old attended school in Dagestan, near Chechnya, and gives world view as 'Islam' on Russian social network site

[.....] The 19-year-old, who is thought to have carried out the Boston marathon bomb with his older brother, was described by friends and family as very different to the 26-year-old Tamerlan. Where Tamerlan is reported to have told people that he didn't have a "single American friend", Dzhokhar was portrayed as a sociable member of his school community. [.....]

Bombing suspect attended UMass Dartmouth
By Sarah Coffey and Patricia Wen and staff, Boston Globe, April 19, 2013

[....] Dzhokhar Tsarnaev had passed an apparently normal day at the school Wednesday, according to a UMass official, working out at the gym, then sleeping in his single-unit room at the Pine Dale Hall dorm that night, while law enforcement officials were frantically scanning photos and video trying to identify him and his brother.

School officials know he was there Wednesday because of card swipes [.....]

Brothers Seen as Good Students and Avid Athletes
By Erica Goode, Serge F. Kovaleski and Andrew E. Kramer, New York Times, April 19/20, 2013

One was a boxer who liked Russian rap videos and once said, “I don’t have a single American friend.”

The other, an all-star high school wrestler, listed “Islam” as his worldview on a Russian social media page and was described by a neighbor as a “very photogenic kid” who had “a heart of gold.”

As a picture has begun to emerge of the two brothers, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, who are suspected of carrying out the bombings at the Boston Marathon, it is difficult to distinguish them from the millions of young people who come to the United States to forge a future [....]

by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 8:17pm

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Michael Riley, Andrew Zajac and Tom Schoenberg, Bloomberg News, April 19, 2013

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/business/bloomberg/article/Boston-Bombings-FBI-Chi...

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11:37 A.M.Chechen Leader Notes Suspects Were Raised in U.S.

Friend: Suspect justified terrorism

Neighbor: Dzhokar was a 'lovely kid'

Suspects' aunt: Where is the evidence?

5:18 P.M. The Lede/New York Times Interview With Suspects’ Father

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