MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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A military coup developing. If he has lefts he leaves a palace behind larger than Louis 14th Versailles.
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THIS IS THE NEWS OF THE YEAR, for chrissakes.
This is more important than anything else I might find.
Good point NCD.
I just wrote a side comment on these items.
http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/world-terrible-place-live-trump-20890
But damn, we just lost our primary connection to the Islamic world.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/turkey-military-operation_us_57893ec5e4b03fc3ee50db8a
by Richard Day on Fri, 07/15/2016 - 7:51pm
Looks like failed. I dont want a connection to the Islamic World - I want Muslims to have a link to the EU. Erdogan is not that.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 07/16/2016 - 3:44am
Fethullah Gülen, what is the deal with this Turk in Pennsylvania? See UK Independent:
A moderate Islamist who believes in 'interfaith dialog' and is considered a 'terrorist' by Erdogran, perhaps because as an Erdogran ally years ago he exposed corruption by the Caliph Erdogran. 70 million Turks are waiting for the no-visa pass Erdogran is seeking for them to flee the Erdogran Caliphate and have the freedom to roam about the EU.
by NCD on Sat, 07/16/2016 - 10:15am
I question whether Gulen is a moderate Islamist. I've read articles over the years describing him as an extremist. It's difficult to follow these stories as there are dozens if not hundreds of these Islamic groups vying for power in the middle east. One would have to spend all their time trying to keep track of them all. And it's difficult to keep track of the bias of the reporters when looking in from the outside. As is usual in the middle east there doesn't seem to be any "good" guys. Only varying degrees of bad actors trying to seize power.
by ocean-kat on Sat, 07/16/2016 - 2:39pm
Agree. BBC and others report Turkey has issued threats over 'those protecting' Gulen and have cut electricity to the base the U.S. uses in Turkey. Erdogran has suspended or arrested 2000+ judges he says are Gulenists who he blames for coup. Article at Times of Israel speculates it may have been a false flag coup by Erdogran to cement his power. (Arresting 2000 judges is democracy?)
by NCD on Sat, 07/16/2016 - 4:05pm
No matter what happened nothing good will come of this. I suppose the least of the possible bad outcomes is that Erdogran will use it to further cement his power and his gradual move to autocratic rule. Nothing I support but I suppose a successful coup would likely have had worse consequences. For all I dislike Erdogran he was elected by the people.
I read an article about a year ago that claimed high ranking members of the military, the police, and the judiciary had Gulen ties and were moving Gulenists into other lower level leadership positions. The claim was that the only way to get a promotion was to have a friend in the Gulenist movement. I tried to find the article but my search skills are pretty low.
by ocean-kat on Sat, 07/16/2016 - 4:37pm
Isn't 26 acres in the Poconos enough for the guy...? He wants Receps palace too? Good points.
by NCD on Sat, 07/16/2016 - 4:50pm
Erdogran may now be demanding a quid pro quo, I let you bomb (US use airbase has been halted post-coup), you hand over Fethullah Gülen.
by NCD on Sat, 07/16/2016 - 10:26am
Erdogan has begun his crackdown on Gülen's supposed followers without offering a shred of evidence that he was in any way involved. Kerry said the U.S. would examine carefully any extradition request from Turkey, and I think far more proof would be required than Erdogan's assertion that he is a terrorist. Gülen, for his part, has strongly condemned the coup attempt.
by acanuck on Sat, 07/16/2016 - 3:53pm
See my comment above. Erdograns #2 said anyone harboring Gulen is an enemy of Turkey, as they have cut power to Incerlik Airbase.
by NCD on Sat, 07/16/2016 - 4:03pm
Although I'm skeptical of anything the Turkish govt says right now, it's plausible that the lockdown is aimed at the Turkish aircraft that also operate out of Incirlik. Some pilots (not necessarily from Incirlik) did clearly take part in the coup attempt. I don't see the quid-pro-quo you suggest actually playing out. The U.S. is still (more or less) a nation of laws, and Obama can't let it be blackmailed into turning over someone to be tortured and perhaps killed on trumped-up charges.
by acanuck on Sat, 07/16/2016 - 4:25pm
One could call it a Byzantine conundrum....?
by NCD on Sat, 07/16/2016 - 4:46pm