MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Police decrease crime
Data suggests that funding community organizations could decrease crime
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/06/12/defund-police-violent-crime/?arc404=true
Cullors is an abolitionist
This does not mean that Cullors is going to dictate public policy
In the 7:15 minute snippet, Cullors said that local government wanted to build a $3.5 billion on a new prison
Cullors and others helped caused the bill to fail
Could that money have been used to aid the local community?
by rmrd0000 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 8:52pm
Aid local community?
Speaking of which.The state of California spends $81,000.00
per year per prison inmate and $10,291.00 per public student.
6,163,001 student total at $10,291.00 per equals $63,423,443,29
115,000 inmates at $81,000 per equals $12,150,000,000 billion
Let's invest more on students so they won't become inmates.
~TOD~
by The_Old_Duck (not verified) on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 12:02am
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 9:41pm
cross-link HOW INFORMED ARE AMERICANS ABOUT RACE AND POLICING?
Report by The Skeptic Research Center and the Worldview Foundations Research Team, Feb. 20, 2021
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 10:45pm
When you first hear the words prison abolition, you might consider Cullors to be insane.
However, a recent story in NYT makes one wonder about alternatives
A young, pregnant woman is convicted of check cashing fraud
She is sent to jail for a parole violation
There is a COVID pandemic
Her cellmate was COVID positive
She was at risk of catching COVID
Is prison the only alternative?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/27/health/coronavirus-prisons-danbury.html
by rmrd0000 on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 8:50pm
I have nothing against discussion about all the theories and posts of new articles on topic on this thread, it might be a good place to collect them. Though I might chose to not participate.
But as far as Cullors and official BLM advocacy everyone can listen to her video and see what she says for herself and her explanation of how it might work. And now there is a tweet that clearly states that the official BLM organization is fully behind that.
The main point of me posting it is that there is no more beating around the bush: this is what official BLM stands for And no beter interpretation than the horse's mouth! Best to use their message to understand their message rather than intermediaries splaining what they said. The tweet and the recommended video ARE what they are saying.
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 9:03pm
Cullors stated her position.
It is not going to happen
Immediately
However different localities are shifting resources from the police
Mental health providers to aid in certain 911 call situations are increasing in number
Police officers are being removed from schools.
President Obama noted in his recent podcast with Springsteen that the goal of an activist could be to get legislation passed or to "stir sh*t up"
by rmrd0000 on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 9:12pm
I will just add this clue for those who haven't watched. She mentions Angela Davis as a major mentor, if you don't know Angela, do a quick wikipedia check
This is official BLM: they have decided to not hide their far left extremism anymore. I suspected this long ago when I saw the influence of white leftist anarchists on their program and activities. I am actually pleased that they have stopped hiding it so people know what they are buying into. (I actually bought into Angela Davis as a high school kid, been there, done that, happy to believe in capitalism now a half century later.)
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 9:15pm
great reminder that our Founders took policing power extremely seriously, the interpretation of what they put down in the Constitution about it is the rub;
Here's just one reminder why
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 7:29pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/01/2021 - 12:33pm
A bill introduced by Rep. Ayanna Pressley and Sens. Ed Markey and Elizabeth Warren comes as the House prepares to vote on major policing reform.
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/01/2021 - 12:38pm
Biden Feb. 25!!!--
It's like people aren't paying enough attention to what Biden is doing? Including me.
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/01/2021 - 12:42pm
NAACP: CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS CALL ON CONGRESS TO PASS GEORGE FLOYD JUSTICE IN POLICING ACT
FEBRUARY 24, 2021
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Rep. Karen Bass Reintroduces George Floyd Policing Bill in Congress
CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS URGE CONGRESS TO PASS LEGISLATION.
...On Wednesday, she and Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), chair of the House Judiciary Committee, reintroduced the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act of 2021....
@ Essence.com, Feb. 26
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So I see that what's going on basically is that they are going to try the same bill over with the new Senate
AND NO MATTER WHICH WAY IT GOES, THEN BIDEN WILL BE DONE WITH THE TOPIC
and be able to move on to other stuff.
Edit to add: the Pressley bill is also a redo, she tried it last session with Justin Amash as a partner, many libertarians like the idea.
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/01/2021 - 12:59pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/01/2021 - 5:32pm
this Noah Smith followup tweet directly addresses the BLM/Cullors delusion of kumbaya anarchy with small communities existing without the need for police, prisons or courts:
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/02/2021 - 12:56am
the killer quote from that article for me, with this cavaet that until April it has been a very limited program:
is this
Grand jury pools are representative of the majority in most places in this country. They are not likely to nullify the wording of a law in order to indict a police officer of a crime when the crime charge does not seem to fit what happened. Yes, they are prejudiced towards police precisely because police themselves are needed to keep law and order. To charge an officer with a crime, the crime has to be especially clear cut! Otherwise, to go around the law and say "but this wasn't right what he did" is nullifying the law, suggesting rebellion or revolution against the law is the way. It's belongs in civil law, not criminal. Hence so many of police abuse cases end up as lawsuits rather than criminal convictions and/or loss of job, not in criminal conviction.
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/01/2021 - 6:26pm
From a totally different angle (except for my 4th Amendment thing) here's something big picture that I tend to also see in the BLM/Angela Davis-inspired "abolish police, prisons and courts" anarchist-heaven dreaming. Can you even bring up the phrase "tyranny of the majority" in an anarchist local community meeting, isn't that verboten? Who's the judge of whether people who need eyeglasses are now doomed by the majorty? Nobody, cause there's no judges and no courts
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/01/2021 - 6:49pm
a libertarian view:
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/02/2021 - 12:03am
Our cops in LA . . .
They seem to have heard the people and are
beginning to respond in a positive manner.
At InstaGram: Building Blue Bridges "See what a change students from South Los Angeles can make."
CBSNews:
~TOD~
by The_Old_Duck (not verified) on Tue, 03/02/2021 - 1:32am
Black Lives Matter promoting defundpolice.org website and affiliates:
includes things like these PDF'S
An Organizer’s Toolkit for Developing Campaigns to Abolish Policing by Critical Resistance
and
What’s Next? Safer and More Just Communities Without Policing
and
Reparations-Now-Toolkit-FINAL
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/03/2021 - 12:58pm
apply those principles here:
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/03/2021 - 1:01pm
What was Bill Barr's role in the lead up? He's a survivor, but what did he set up before avoiding the trainwreck?
And then the others *at the top*. So many temporary appointments rather than Congressionally approved.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 03/03/2021 - 6:20pm
Must-read: DoD horrific response
Use anon tab if needed. Seriously, theres so much malfeasance and high level conspiracy described in one write-up.
Arrests need to be made. Hearings and wide-soread investigations need to be held.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 03/04/2021 - 4:12am
Nate Silver:
Frank Luntz retweets it because he knows it true from all his focus grouping:
AND in actuality, as we have seen, the official BLM is no longer hiding that they want to abolish police, not just "defund", so who is to say that there was a problem with those peoples' hearing? Maybe the others who were reading the "defund" movement as shifting funds to related services were the clueless ones.
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/03/2021 - 5:22pm
Historically minority communities have suffered from both under policing and bad policing. BLM is focusing on the latter but they actually go hand in hand. Too few police in a community leads to more crime and more coercive techniques to maintain control. Different segments of the population see one problem as more pressing than the other. Both problems need to be worked on simultaneously but BLM's plan to solve one will make the other much worse.
by ocean-kat on Wed, 03/03/2021 - 5:48pm
Some communities may shift funds to mental health resources
I doubt that many communities are taking BLM up on abolishing the police.
The ball in the the court of the leadership of police departments to reform behavior.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 03/03/2021 - 6:13pm
I care more the angle about how coverage of big protests by media make people think certain communities are all of one mind on an issue WHEN THEY ARE NOT. It's no different than any other "special interest" who claims to be representing silent members when they actually disapprove. Learned my lesson long ago with "the silent majority" who went to the polls and elected Nixon. Unless you are doing something through the courts--our judicial system is there to protect minority views against tyranny of the majority--you want to reform something or fix a problem, you've got to win over a majority for chrissakes. Otherwise it's just delusional and you end up doing counterproductive things.
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/03/2021 - 6:17pm
Look, I've cited this before. very few people of any color are shot to death by police compared to other unfair death circumstances like death by physician malpractice and overtreatment and incorrect treatment, and violence from other civilians, not to mention hundreds of thousands lost to Covid. I think I need to put it in caps:
AND AMONG THAT SMALL NUMBER OF CASUALTIES, FAR MORE WHITE PEOPLE ARE SHOT TO DEATH BY POLICE THAN BLACK:
People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2017-2021
Published by Statista Research Department, Mar 1, 2021
Are all black people so stupid that they don't know that? I don't think so. I think activists have so long forced this issue so long and so vehemently that the media always covers every instance of mistreatment of blacks by police while they don't cover any mistreatment of whites by police.
You read about the black boy arrested walking home from school in a snowstorm. How do you know the same thing hasn't happened to white kids as well. You read about handcuffs being put on black kids at Target because they were misidentified as perps by staff. How do you know that hasn't happened to white kids as well? I've actually seen with my own eyes white kids thrown on the floor and tacked for shoplifting. Nobody called the media, it wasn't a hot story. If I were a reporter, it certainly wouldn't consider it a hot story. But if they are black, it's a hot story. Because it supposedly "proves" systemic racism in policing. EVEN IF THE COPS INVOLVED ARE BLACK!
It does take a toll, seeing the stories posted on Dagblog day after day after day, this mistreatment by police of black people, that shooting by police of black people. Rare to see white people stories,though. Does that mean it doesn't happen? NOPE.
Here's what I think is happening and I think the minority votes cited in Nate Silver's article clip know it, and I think a lot of my fellow Bronxites and New Yorkers know it:
Police are tough on people who live in bad and poor neighborhoods. They also do profile people who look like the people in the bad neighborhoods their area. Many blacks are stuck in bad neighborhoods. It's socio-economic, not racism, and many of the black people who are stuck in poor crime-ridden neighborhoods know it. And many of those who have gotten out of those neighborhoods know it, too. And while they may not say so because it's not politically correct in their culture, they vote for more police and more black police. And don't fall for the shit in the news as representative of what's really going on, nor judge on the basis of a couple of horrible videos taken by civilians of mistreatment that cause a grand hysteria lasting months.
Because they live it day after day in a crime-ridden neighborhood, or have lived it and recently gotten out. And have been to more than a few funerals in their time, and the victims were not shot by police.
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/03/2021 - 7:00pm
You repeated post reports of homicides
You note the high homicide rates in some Black communities
When I look at how crime can be decreased, I repeatedly see that developing trust and the community is important
These reports note that police abuse limits that trust.
Curbing police abuse is a major issue is establishing trust.
Some states realize this and are making reforms
Maryland:
https://wamu.org/story/21/03/03/md-senate-approves-police-reform-measures/
If the reforms decrease police abuse, they will benefit all people. BLM played a role in forcing change. Everyone will benefit.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 03/03/2021 - 7:19pm
above article comes as no surprise to
1) those who ran the Trump campaign advertising in August 2020 trying to win over swings
2) Joe Biden, in Dec.meeting with civil rights leaders: GOP 'beat the living h--- out of us' over 'defund the police'
3) Al Sharpton in Sept.
4) members of Dem. Congress at "family meeting" discussing the loss of House seats post election, including Jim Clyburn
5) black NYC lawmakers in August who saw the defund police movement as colonialist project by white progressives convincing minorities about their shit against the actual interests of minority communities (well,. okay, maybe those guys didn't care about swing voters, but they still think it's a crock of white far left anarchist crap hurting, not helping, their constituents)
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/03/2021 - 5:59pm
adding Nate's after comment which I initially missed:
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/03/2021 - 6:03pm
Josh Marshall & Yglesias exchange in Dec.; Yglesias confirming that Minneapolis BLM really were for "abolish" all along and were just hiding it under "defund"
Yglesias' article, which they were discussing, was tweeted here
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/03/2021 - 6:30pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/03/2021 - 11:56pm
^ I think this means House Dems and Biden are done with the issue, no matter which way it goes in the Senate, they can say they tried. They will move on to other things that have more potential for bipartisan support. Biden's clearly not willing to focus at the national level on something so divisive where even the activists are very divided about what to do and where localities have already flip-flopped, i.e. Minneapolis defunded and then refunded and now is having a hard time hiring.
If anything, it will come up again in the context of rising urban crime.
(Or maybe there is already something targeted to police funding in the Stimulus bill?)
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/04/2021 - 12:05am
more on the complicated congressional politics being played with the Geo. Floyd bill, here from The House passes a policing overhaul bill named for George Floyd, whose death spurred nationwide protests. @ NYTimes.com, March 4, 2021, 1:14 p.m by Nicholas Fandos, Catie Edmondson and Karen Zraick
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/04/2021 - 7:34pm
So basically official BLM is totally contra Biden's main message that government under the Democratic party, working with and for all citizens, can work. Because all their main protests have been against how Democratic mayors have been handling policing and the aftermath of any misconduct by their police. And their main message now is that it would be better if local communities handled security and other functions themselves. It's basically an anarchist message, very similar to that pushed by the deadenders at "Occupy Wall Street." That movement too started out big, hitting a nerve, and slowly alienated most of those who started out sympathetic. The majority that believes in civilization just doesn't buy into anarchist dreaming.
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/11/2021 - 10:25pm
Hopefully, but sadly it's more likely this will be the kiss of death as they get labeled Angela-Davis-style Marxists by some conservative radio host who finds out BLM is supporting:
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/15/2021 - 6:44pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/16/2021 - 7:23pm
Now I just got to point out that stuff like this is not good p.r. for Cullors' beliefs that communities can end up like a loving family and that there is no need for things like courts:
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/17/2021 - 12:32am
Shaun King's been a grifter for so long i like it that i can follow him and quickly identify the other grifters and grifter movements. Some kind of shit covered canary in an otherwise good coalmine.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 03/17/2021 - 2:34am
I don't but he does:
I think they are idiots who almost got Trump re-elected; I thank god that in the midst of all the burning, rioting, looting & threatening of gentrifiers (which no police abuse victim really asked for!) Joe Biden found the bravery to say aloud in public that he wasn't for defunding, but increasing funding.
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/18/2021 - 2:25am
Hey, BLM and friends: as far as your protests in NYC, they did not defund them, as a matter of fact, sort of the opposite, it cost us taxpayers a ton of extra money and, while it might have burned them out further while a significant number among them were off duty while sick with Covid, those lucky enough not to get infected took the overtime pay all the way to the bank:
Thanks for the fish.
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/18/2021 - 3:33pm
so there's some brothers here, they are against police, and the court system is working against them; one could make a coalition, just sayin:
Proud Boys Members Allegedly Warned That Cops Were “The Primary Threat” The Night Before The Capitol Insurrection
A grand jury indicted four Proud Boys leaders in the latest conspiracy case to come out of the riot investigation.
by Zoe Tillman @ DailyBeast.com, March 19
by artappraiser on Fri, 03/19/2021 - 2:37pm
a selection from hashtag #istandwiththemothers, it seems to have developed quite a following:
certainly doesn't look like any kind of solidarity going on...
by artappraiser on Sat, 03/20/2021 - 7:41pm
Here we see yet another example of continuing troubles with the solidarity thing and the grifter meme:
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/24/2021 - 5:14am
an essay on how a potential ally was turned off in NYC:
by artappraiser on Fri, 03/26/2021 - 7:57pm
Ally or potential valuable capture?
Methinks they're looking for ownerships, capitulation.
American ISIS w/o the bloodshed? Similar worldviews.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 03/27/2021 - 12:53am
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/29/2021 - 2:21pm
Looks like BLM Chicago is even more blatantly radical than BLM national:
I went over to check their site because I first read this interview with Kaba published today at The Nation. Where she talks not just about dreaming about abolishment of prisons but walking the walk with her "anarchist friends", basically creating a Marxist heaven that has nothing to do with the United States as it exists, indeed she talks about a vision of "deconstructing" all of current western capitalist society. Some things remind me of Pol Pot's vision for Cambodia. Here a couple excerpts, followed by tweet with the link
I can't see anyone sane belonging to the Democratic party going along with this program. Bernie bros. are moderates by comparison.
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/29/2021 - 8:24pm
Here's a good counter to Miz Kaba:
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/29/2021 - 9:10pm
Hot tip for radical activists in grievance bubbles:
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 4:48pm
on that abolish prisons thing; aside from the elephant in the room called handguns, might be better first to agitate for lead paint removal and also maybe stop joking about any proclivity to whooping kids upside the head, keep kids out of playing touch football in school (like white suburban parents are pretty much starting to do), promote alcohol & drug abstinence during pregnancy, stuff like that:
A huge share of prisoners have brain injuries. They need more help
It would be best to prevent such injuries in the first place
@ The Economist, March 27
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 6:32pm
John McWhorter:
His argument includes mention of the data I have posted elsewhere and then it goes further to what has already appeared totally logical and rational to me
People can argue and do argue whether the reasons most blacks are poorer than most whites, which is also a reality. And reasons for the economic difference can reasonably include lasting effects of past systemic racism and current continued racism.
BUT THAT HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH POLICE! It especially has little to do with police in large Democratic cities who have been racially integrated for a long time. It gets especially absurd when the cop involved is black.
McWhorter is a linguist and words matter to him, and he thinks the police abuse problem is not properly labeled as a racist problem! He's right, it's just not.
Doing so stupidly inserted racial antagonism by those given to it including racists, racialists, and people who feel unfairly mislabeled as either into an argument where it doesn't belong!
Not a joke: if this movement was to be about police, and lessening abuse by them, to be effective rather than ensnarled in politics of race, it really really should have been named "Poor Live Matter" or "All Lives Matter". Making it all about race doomed it, especially the main slogan.
by artappraiser on Sat, 04/03/2021 - 12:23am
A bit misleading: Take a Knee was partially born from all these incidents where a crime has happened and the cops arrest the nearest black guy, often brutally. Take A Knee failed at the box office - seems it offended our sports and flag and thus troops sensibilities (yes, it was absurd that "The Troops" came to play, but we're a bit retarded about that patriotism thing.
The "Black Lives Matter" slogan coalesced the outrage for those 3 May 2020 incidents/announcements *worldwide*. Yes it might have expanded to "All Lives Matter" after a few weeks - not before - but still that might have played into Trump's indifference/race stoking and the White Supremacy vs his mythological Antifa ravings - this wasn't happening in a vacuum, as seen with Barr tear gassing protesters so Trump could hold up a Bible. For Black Lives Matter to cut through where Take A Knee it had to keep momentum. A watered down "All Lives Matter" would fade pretty quick, not that juices smashing windows was the way to keep it going (nor BLM org Marxist demands if defund the police). Welcome to complexity. Sure, police abuse is much wider, but sometimes it's time to focus on the specific.
I still think the movement was a good thing for global race consciousness, much as all the woke speak carries stuff too far. Yes, it can get sidetracked into cancelling TinTin books, but it's also useful in making people more aware of the insult of some basic portrayals and ways of speaking about other cultures, incl some ugly stereotypes, linguistic mimicking, etc. - including for other cultures that don't interact frequently with whichever minority or other.
I can remember at my 5th birthday party making a comment about a friend's nose - Chinese - set him crying. I hadn't meant to be mean, but it came out badly obviously. As a dumb southerner new to a northern school, i made a dumb "wetback" joke to a lunchroom worker while chatting with him and a cute Latina worker - i was lucky he didn't get angrier than he did, but yes, there's more to insults and abuse, and a bit more awareness and watching the lines and people's feelings should be a good thing.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 04/03/2021 - 12:30am
I think virtually all times where race is injected into discussion or protest about solving any problem are usually counterproductive in this country at this stage of its development. ESPECIALLY UNDER TRUMP AS PRESIDENT, he just loved it when that happened!
This is precisely still the reason many poor whites are Trumpie fans!
They especially don't like inserting race identity politics into talking about something that is a problem that they also experience! I.E., income, housing, jobs...VOTING ACCESS, to name one now.
They also see that many liberal elites support the racializing of problems that affect more than one color of skin. This infuriates them further.
Why does anyone even go there? Unless they are a Russian troll or a narcissist president looking to cause chaos and resentment.It's wack! They alienate allies for no good reason, to re-litigate long gone slavery and civil war issues.
Talk to an immigrant from Nigeria and they go: say what? You don't like living segregated by color of skin and cultural preferences in corruptly run and violent ghettoes, get on the greyhound bus and move somewhere integrated, just like I did on a airplane.
PP, very few of this country's problems are about race! I think you're falling for the BIG narrative that distracts.
We've already had 8 yrs. of biracial president trying to fix them and now we have a biracial vice-president. The future: people are just not going to buy this shit anymore. It's not 1960.
by artappraiser on Sat, 04/03/2021 - 12:50am
I never said most of our problems are about race. This isn't South African apartheid, and things are far improved from my town 1st integrating schools when I was a kid. Nevertheless, there is still a pretty large race and racism problem, and by far the worst segment where this appears is with the black population. I would like to see that situation change by 2050. I point out the challenges coming to sub-Saharan Africa by 2100 as it becomes 1/3 of the global population, but if we can't even bring in the black population to have a healthy, shared economic and social future in this country, how bad is it going to be in Africa? There's not "an app for that", but surely there have to be some obvious improvements. We can spend billions trying to improve batteries to make electric vehicles work to stop global warming - how's our Moonshot on racism, better racial economic integration, full participation, even if it's lumpy like reality and not purely mixed.
And again i disagree that Obama did much about racism, aside from being symbolic as our first bi-racial CEO. I think much more direct overt action & improvements were taken under LBJ and Clinton, and Obama felt his hands tied, that being overt would be counterproductive, that he had to play the "president for all people" rather than taking on more of the injustices and imbalance. (When unemployment hit the black population especially hard after Bush's 2008 crash, there was no directed help for the black population, or even little for individuals - Obama bargained his way into bailing out corporations and loading the rescue into tax cuts - yum. The mortgage crisis and robo-foreclosures also hit the black sector particularly hard, wiping out much of the home ownership toehold they'd gained in the 90s, which also affected crime and other social issues. Education costs affect all races, but the better access to financial aid for minorities instead of addressing costs foments more division and resentment, including for the younger population )
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 04/03/2021 - 2:07am
You're not getting my frame at all. People with black skin can rise to the level of president and vice-president, they are the preferred hires right now for all kinds of prestigious jobs, they are mayors and police chiefs allover the fucking country, there are more black people on CNN than white lately especially the anchorpersons, they are best-selling authors, they are the top earners in music, they are tax-avoiding billionaire etc.
Stop signifying by race TOTALLY. Only by class.
(those successful minority politicians? upper class! of course they aren't of much help, they are of different class, they merely share skin color with the poor of the same skin color.)
Call them low income or poor inner city and rural people. They all have the same problems.
WHATEVER the reason there's still higher percentage of those with black skin in that category than the percentage of those with white skin, DOESN'T MATTER ANY MORE, that's for historic reasons we can't do anything about (unless you believe in reparations, and putting value into ancestry, well then you also want a new civil war, I guess.)
All making things racial instead of economic class does is pit one tribe against another, I remind you of this frigging thread where there's the phenomenon of more minority males voting GOP in 2020 than 2016 because they are sick of being infantilized and being thought of as needing special preference.
What racial identity politics is doing at this point is time is straight out of the apocryphal Jay Gould quote I can hire half of the working class to kill the other half.
Victim olympics by race and ethnicity are over soon, I am sure of it now. Biden was right that unity message was what was required. Trump's co-option of it and BLM and woke overkill and incompetence made sure of that. Every day more people realize "WOKE" is basically being directed by elite educated white liberals with foolish minority lackeys and if the Dems continue to be associated with them, they will lose a lot more minority and especially mixed race votes.
There is zero benefit for everyone involved in continuing to racialize the problems of the working class and poor. And there's a lot more of the latter with this pandemic, especially when all the bills piled up for a year start coming home to roost, that's not going to be rectified easily working 60 hrs. a week at decent pay and so far it's looking like they are still not going to get decent pay. (Not the least of which because a significant number of them have decided they want to be naive capitalists rather than work....)
by artappraiser on Sat, 04/03/2021 - 3:38am
Even though there's more representation at various levels, i contend it still matters - that there's more structural racism than should be just left standing, even though I'm not saying structural racism is everywhere, or that its not a level of tolerance (pun?) game, that it will/could ever be 100% shangri-la, etc. I'm also worried that these CNN analyst positions don't much represent the more production-oriented universe, where people produce real goods and services, not just blather on as talking heads or politicians in the highly visible. I don't mean specifically STEM, but the goods economy - construction, supermarkets, auto, tourism, real estate, banking, soda and diapers... what are the opportunities there, what are the skill set gaps, how open and level are those playing fields? Maybe it's better than i imagine, i hope, but I'm skeptical.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 04/03/2021 - 4:01am
by artappraiser on Mon, 04/05/2021 - 8:19pm
Sometime in the last 18 hrs., official BLM retweeted this incredibly idiotic logical fallacy!
by artappraiser on Tue, 04/06/2021 - 1:41am
Missed this, their foundation took in $90 million last year
(In light of that, the accusations from some struggling families of black victims complaining about them using their loved ones names for profit are no surprise)
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/09/2021 - 8:21pm
I notice that there's a totally different kinda "black lives" messaging trending on Twitter right now
there's lots more like that...
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/14/2021 - 3:26am
Downtown Minneapolis Sept. 14: nothing left to loot, no one left to abuse, and you don't need cops if you got plywood. Thanks, BLM movement, for showing us a vision of what the glorious future could be like! (Those jurors must be having some fun, amirite? what an awesome gig!)
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/15/2021 - 3:44pm
see comments, no one was successful:
he later tweeted this:
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/16/2021 - 12:49am
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/16/2021 - 10:19pm
"Living Wage" = 4 houses worth $3.2 million? (Not that she paid cash, i don't think). She's providing housing to a dozen people, some real estate mama?
Seth Abramson had a few "best selling books", but i don't think he's buying a villa.
Anyway, what would Che Guevara do?
https://nypost.com/2021/04/16/blm-co-founder-patrisse-khan-cullors-defen...
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 04/17/2021 - 2:15am
Birth of Neo-Marxism, everyone a rentier, her manifesto coming out soon? Wonder if she's thought about enticing the crypto crowd...
by artappraiser on Sat, 04/17/2021 - 2:25pm
If everyone has 4 houses worth $3..2 million everyone is equal. I'm sure she has a plan for that eventually happening so what's the problem?
by ocean-kat on Sat, 04/17/2021 - 4:20pm
not official BLM, but very much a fellow traveler:
by artappraiser on Mon, 04/19/2021 - 12:58pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 04/20/2021 - 12:10am
MANY THANKS due to Jim Clyburn and others who read the riot act to lefties in the Dem party about using BLM fucking "defund" and "abolish" slogans until the Georgia Senate race was done:
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/22/2021 - 11:34pm
re: abolishing prisons
by artappraiser on Sun, 04/25/2021 - 2:02pm
Crosslink: turns out many of your stylings have been enormously counter-productive
by artappraiser on Sun, 04/25/2021 - 2:04pm
right wing watching every little thing she does, to paraphrase Sting
by artappraiser on Sun, 05/09/2021 - 2:53pm
"every buck you take, every muck you rake..." she don't have to turn on her red light... time to send out an SOS?
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 05/09/2021 - 3:16pm
Nobody noticed back at the end of Nov. 2016 when BLM wrote and tweeted a loving ode to Fidel Castro's vision -
If they had many more would be wary of labeling protests about George Floyd video with their name.
They have been and continue to be consistent though
It's not been their fault if people have misinterpreted their messages.and goals, which are basically anarcho-communist, and used their name as if they didn't have such messages and goals.
It's just that I wonder: did anybody tell them that the Castro regime and his followers have found police forces and jails and prisons to be very useful tools in maintaining the "people's revolution"?
by artappraiser on Fri, 07/16/2021 - 2:30pm
No one paid attention in 2016, because BLM is not regarded as being knowledgeable on anything other than police abuse.
When it comes to police abuse, very few take calls for abolition of police seriously.
Professor Gates did a PBS series on Blacks in Latin America that discussed racism in Cuba.
https://www.pbs.org/wnet/black-in-latin-america/
BLM has been criticized for it's praise for Fidel, including by Afro-Cubans.
The BLM organization involved updated its statement.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/black-lives-matter-faces-backlash-statement-cuba-protest-rcna1438
BLM is not the go to source for position papers on Cuba.
by rmrd0000 on Fri, 07/16/2021 - 4:29pm