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    Trouble in Paradise

    Bob Woodward: The story is dry. All we've got are pieces. We can't seem to figure out what the puzzle is supposed to look like. John Mitchell resigns as the head of CREEP, and says that he wants to spend more time with his family. I mean, it sounds like bullshit, we don't exactly believe that...

    Deep Throat: No, heh, but it's touching. Forget the myths the media's created about the White House. The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

    Bob Woodward: Hunt's come in from the cold. Supposedly he's got a lawyer with $25,000 in a brown paper bag.

    Deep Throat: Follow the money.

    Bob Woodward: What do you mean? Where?

    Deep Throat: Oh, I can't tell you that.

    Bob Woodward: But you could tell me that.

    Deep Throat: No, I have to do this my way. You tell me what you know, and I'll confirm. I'll keep you in the right direction if I can, but that's all. Just... follow the money.

    ---W. Mark Felt, Deputy Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation to Bob Woodward of the Washington Post as dramatized in the motion picture "All the President's Men" (1976).

    Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.

    When Winston Churchill let forth this bleat, used since then as a club to answer any critic of a democratic system of government, he was, as leader of the opposition Conservative Party in 1947, defending the right of a wholly undemocratic body, the House of Lords, to delay the effect of legislation the Lords opposed. The reason the Government had decided that it had enough of the Lords, was its interference in the Government's efforts to help the British economy recover from the ravages of the recently ended war. The Lords (and Churchill) believed, naturally, that what the Government was doing amounted to socialism.

    He did not suggest that the Prime Minister was not born in Britain and was actually from Kenya, however.

    The form of "democracy" we have established on these formerly British shores is, of course, a Republic, where we elect people to represent us in legislative bodies. It has not always worked very well, though, because the people elected, seeking their own re-election, are loathe to agree to anything that might anger a potential voter. The result, frequently, is mush.

    There is, for instance, something about the phrase Missouri Compromise, that makes people far removed from the events of those days, believe it to be a tribute to representative government because opposing ideas were somehow muted by an agreement that, while not pleasing everyone, resolved the issue of the moment. Of, course, nothing could be further from the truth.

    The half baked and almost absurd Compromise was actually enacted twice by Congresses unable to to resolve the vastly different views of slavery and what the federal government could do about it. Since no problems were actually solved, it led to even more friction and did nothing but delay the only way we could come up with to resolve those differing opinions: an insurrection by one side against the other which we have come to call The Civil War.

    As we cut to our times, we make a slight detour to a United States Supreme Court opinion, as destructive to our country as of its other disasters (Dred Scott---which held the Missouri Compromise to be unconstitutional among them). This one was called Buckley v. Valeo and, rather than repeat anything previously posted under this name, you are respectfully referred to, for instance, this.

    For now, let's just look at one portion of this decision and consider how much it has exacerbated Congress' built in and long established inability to resolve the conflicts among us. When, after watching how an incumbent president could pervert the electoral system and then cover it up and heeding Director Felt's then anonymous admonition to follow the money, Congress was able to muster enough bipartisan outrage to reform the way we conduct our elections, the Supreme Court held it, as with the Missouri Compromise, was unconstitutional. Under the First Amendment, the Court held:

    So long as persons and groups eschew expenditures that in express terms advocate the election or defeat of a clearly identified candidate, they are free to spend as much as they want to promote the candidate and his views....the First Amendment right to "`speak one's mind . . . on all public institutions'" includes the right to engage in "`vigorous advocacy' no less than `abstract discussion.'" New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S., at 269 , quoting Bridges v. California, 314 U.S. 252, 270 (1941), and NAACP v. Button, 371 U.S., at 429 . Advocacy of the election or defeat of candidates for federal office is no less entitled to protection under the First Amendment than the discussion of political policy generally or advocacy of the passage or defeat of legislation.

    It is argued, however, that the ancillary governmental interest in equalizing the relative ability of individuals and groups to influence the outcome of elections serves to justify the limitation on express advocacy of the election or defeat of candidates .... But the concept that government may restrict the speech of some elements of our society in order to enhance the relative voice of others is wholly foreign to the First Amendment, which was designed "to secure `the widest possible dissemination of information from diverse and antagonistic sources,'" and "`to assure unfettered interchange of ideas for the bringing about of political and social changes desired by the people.'" New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, supra, at 266, 269, quoting Associated Press v. United States, 326 U.S. 1, 20 (1945), and Roth v. United States, 354 U.S., at 484 . The First Amendment's protection against governmental abridgment of free expression cannot properly be made to depend on a person's financial ability to engage in public discussion.

    That last sentence deserves special emphasis since the over thirty years since then has shown how ridiculous it was and remains. The supposed First Amendment right to flood campaigns with money has exacerbated the power of those with money against those without to an extent President Nixon would have welcomed. The Court took the Watergate reforms and turned them into a ratification of what Nixon had wrought. Put the government for sale to the highest bidder and the most conservative candidate will almost always win unless they out forward someone who is overwhelmingly incompetent (see George W. Bush, a discovery made by the electorate about six years into his presidency).

    It is little wonder then, that polling shows a huge disconnect between David Gregor, the rest of those who feed off Washington and the nation as a whole . In D.C. the recession is over and the economy slowly recovering. There is no need for further governmental stimulus, to these people, and, to the contrary, government spending must be reduced even if it puts more burdens on people counting on the social safety net.

    In the rest of the country, though, the recession is such that everyone knows at least one person who lost his or her job, went through what unemployment benefits there were and now just stares into space, trying to figure out the next move. 60 Minutes told us how this was effecting a generation of children , but the widely viewed program barely made a ripple in the self-obsessed world of those who have spent the several weeks since then debating and arguing about more cuts in social programs.

    Their audience are no longer voters who will likely vote predictably the way they are told to by those whose money is critical to the re-election of the "Representatives" and Senators who might otherwise see things differently than they do. The President hinted at this the other day when he described the pointedly piggish "Ryan plan"---hailed within the beltway and its followers as the epitome of courage and manliness---and said, instead,

    I don't think there’s anything courageous about asking for sacrifice from those who can least afford it and don’t have any clout on Capitol Hill.

    This was met by those feeding off the Valeo trough as rude and offensive: as if the President showed up at one of their fundraisers wearing a tee shirt. But they will win this argument, because it is not an intellectual battle to determine what is right and wrong among conflicting ideas. It is, instead, day to day preening to impress those with money to give them more so that they can stay in office longer. And the words campaign finance reform, they tell us, are the three most boring words in the English language. That should be so, but it appears to be that way, at least from here.

    They were defeated in 2008, but they were carrying their not so bright President, unmasked and naked, and he brought out a groundswell that overwhelmed their natural advantages. Maybe the Governor of Wisconsin will do the same in 2012. They have little chance of picking up the White House given the personality driven nature of those campaigns but a decent chance of controlling both houses of Congress. By now, even the most monarchistic among us have noticed that a President, unlike a pre-20th century king or queen, has little hope of making a dent in the agenda that truly faces us, when Congress is a wholly owned subsidiary of people with completely different ideas.

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    By now, .......have noticed that a President, .......has little hope of making a dent in the agenda that truly faces us, when Congress is a wholly owned subsidiary of people with completely different ideas.

    Maybe a President named Ben Dover should run for the Office of the Presidency; maybe that would drive home the point about how some Presidents are useless pawns? 

    Or maybe we can find a President who knew how and was willing to use the bully pulpit, to move the ball down the field, someone who knew how to mobilize the army; to win the debate of ideas.

    Not some Leader leading us in a chorus of Kumbaya Lyrics

    PLEASE put someone in power, who'll do more than preach "cant we all just get along…bipartisanship”

    Someone other than a pretender claiming "if only the enemy of the working class would have agreed to be agreeable, we could have gotten the promises made"

    Someone named Ben Dover; could have accomplished as much as we've received, by this place holder unwilling to use the tools he had available to him.   


    So let me get this straight.  You're not a big fan of President Obama?


    "To be a big fan"....does that imply being a tool for him?

    If you were to ask..."do I trust him",   the answer is NO.

    Fool me once, shame on you Obama.

    He has not earned the trust of many.

    To get reelected; He'll have to rely on the assumption; that he's not as bad as those BIG, BAD Republicans. He's the lesser of the two evils?

    Are you a big fan, a big tool to be exploited?

    The next time he's elected he doesn’t have to make promises he cant keep ...he only has to be ….less bad.

    Obama campaign strategy "Give generously Mr. Banker; you sure wouldn’t want a progressive in office"   


    He has more than earned my trust.  He has repeatedly used what you and TR call the bully pulpit, but rarely does a celebrity obsessed, and otherwise shallow news media listen.  His speech the week before last was as clear an exposition on the difference between what Democrats have stood for since 1933 and the loony bin opposition.

    Instead of whining about his failure to meet your high standards, read or listen to a few things:

    Start with this from a week or so ago

    and this, too

    and try this

    this is worth reading, only because it is so much against the grain of our society's priorities, but something a President should say,

    and watch this, too

    Yet you tell me he stands for nothing and his presidency is meaningless. 

    The GOP loves you guys.  It's what keeps them going.

    Yes, there are times he is maddening.  There are times he negotiates against himself. There are times when the absurdity of it all, the filibusters, the obstructionism, the opposition to anything he says, even if what he says is what They have been urging him to do, gets to him.

    And we have gone three weeks where some nutcase who names buildings afer himself has the news media following him around to discuss his crazy views about where the President was born.

    May I please ask for you to get a grip, knowing that you won't since you see all these people as basically the same.

    I don't.

     

     

     


    I was going to just tell you how much I enjoyed your blog, and how thought-provoking it was.  But I sense your frustration and I relate to it, with due respect to Resistance and to many people I know in real life and on the internets who feel as Resistance does.

    At the TPMCafe, during the campaign, there was a woman from Ohio with the name BevD.  I hope she's OK, because I believe she was very ill, but she and I bonded because both of us supported HRC in the primaries and felt kind of othered by the whole Obama thing.  Her son was on his second tour in Iraq at the time, and while most of us knew about it I think, it wasn't something she wrote about constantly.  You just get to know people after awhile and that's how it was with Bev D.

    Anyway, I digress, but the point I want to make is that I remember after Obama became the nominee I wrote a reply to one of her comments in which I predicted that after he was in office for a year or so folks like she and I--more or less old fashioned and boring New Deal type Dems--would probably have more positive feelings about Obama than many of his most vocal supporters during the campaign.  And it turns out to be true, I think, and I am not writing this to claim some kind of great knowledge or ability to predict the future.  It's just that the expectations for Obama were so high back then, and after awhile you just get to understand certain things about the way DC works, such that the high expectations were just unrealistic.

    In any event, I appreciate your blogpost very much.  I guess the only thing I might add is that while it more often than not is or usually winds up being all about money, I just don't think that money is always the last word in American politics.

    Nice work.

    Bruce

     

     

     

     


    Thanks.  I was (slighlty embarassed to say it) an Edwards supporter, and remain what you describe:  an old fashioned New Deal Democrat.  (I would have liked most to see Sen Kerry renominated).

    And your point is so right it has smacked me right in the forehead. Amazing how I missed it, though I have written about this before:   I forgot about the God-like faith these people had in a man who would become king, not president.

    And I did not mean to suggest that money is always the last word.  Sometimes it is possible to overcome money.  Not often, though and when the playing field is as tilted as it is now, it becoems harder and harder for those moments to take place,

    So, again, thanks.

     

     


    A couple of qualifiers as I think about this.

    First, there were Obama supporters and there were Obama supporters.  In our little corner of the internets there were people who were genuinely committed to uniting folks behind Obama and who were not turning him into some kind of extraordinary being--Genghis and Articleman for example--and there were folks on the other extreme who asserted that supporters of Hillary Clinton were rejecting Obama because of his race or his middle name or whatever.  Of course, there were also the Obama supporters who introduced me to the term I had not heard of, DINO, and which as a life-long and perhaps knee-jerk Democrat, was particularly irritating.

    Second, there were many folks who rejected Obama from his left, a guy like Oleeb comes to mind, and I think that their opposition to the president has been consistent both before and after the election.  I don't know Resistance, but perhaps he or she falls into this category.

    Third, this Yankee fan rooted for Fisk and the Red Sox in the '75 series, and in the one back in '67 as well.  I've always found in hard to hate the Red Sox, which is not to say that, at times, I haven't loathed them.  And my father-in-law has lived in New York for almost 50 years, hasn't lost his Boston accent and never will, and hates all canines and New York teams.  That said, as a lover of both dogs and Yankees, he's still a good guy.

     


    Again, you have me (except for the part about the American League franchise in New York (a team that two of my favorite people in the world root for).  My dad (and mom) have lived in the NY metro area since 1960 (me, too) and my dad still sounds as if he was on Blue Hill Avenue.  My mom has never had any accent.

    The thing about President Bush was that he was a uniter (but also a divider) and that unity made the President's election possible.  When I settled on him as my candidate, I said as well that any of the other Democratic candidates were fine with me, and I think that speaks for a vast majority of those who voted for him.

    My objection to those who rail at the president in these pages is that they speak as if we are the only people whose views matter.  No more than 45 to 50% of the country agrees with what seems to be inescapable fact:  that were it not for the New Deal there would be no nation.  Over 40% of one of the major political parties believe the President was not born in Hawaii.

    In a country such as that, a president can only do so much. What we need is a president who can lead us out of this mess, and that is who we have.  Whether he, or we, can do that depends on many factors, most out of his exclsuive control.

     


    No more than 45 to 50% of the country agrees with what seems to be inescapable fact:

    This is just false. There were huge majorities for important progressive policies like tax hikes on the rich, the public option, financial regs with teeth.

    If you can't push policies through with 60% popular support, you're just ... not trying.


    No.  Those are just blathering polls.  Would you like a tax cut?  Yes.  Would you like a tax cut if rich people had to pay more in taxes?  Yes.

    The polls that count on are on election day.

    And, when election day's results are altered by massive amounts of money and the disaffection of people who stay home if their party doesn't win all of its battles, you get this.  My opinion is that the President tries a lot harder than the people who seem so unhappy with the results, but you no doubt noticed the result last November was not in accord with the poll results you cite.

     

     

     


    There isn't really disageement between you and Obey; the answer is in polls of likely voters vs. polls of the populace at large. Especially in mid-term elections. Many of those who might answer a pollster that they suppot progressive programs rarely vote at all unless there is someone charismatic running for president. Which addresses your point elsewhere here about people looking for a king or a hero.


    Sure, polls are problematic in all kinds of ways. But there isn't much else to go on. Especially elections are a terrible way to gauge support for any given policy or set of policies. Notably so if neither party actually supports them or tries to implement them, right?

    In any case, you're the one who claimed progressive policies DON'T HAVE THE SUPPORT. And YOU gave no evidence. AT ALL. Right? So we can start swapping evidence if you want, poll-based or otherwise. But it is ridiculous to refuse to consider more fine-grained - policy specific - polling evidence (especially those based on likely voters) and rely only on elections, where none of these policies even come up, because the Dem party itself opposes progressive policies like these - opposing tax hikes on the rich, opposing the public option, opposing stricter financial regs.

    I tend to think the most important factor in elections is the state of the economy: Is it improving or not? It's a referendum on the incumbent party.  And so, when the Dems have power, one should support Dem policies that promote economic welfare and oppose those that don't. So one way to take left-wing opposition is not to regard them as a bunch of petulant impatient children who get pissed whenever they don't get 100% of what they want, but rather to see them as people who think the current set of policies and policy-directions are ... failing.

    As an objective matter.

    These policies aren't going to help the economy recover. And THAT, going into 2012, is what is frightening. Obama, for all his electoral skill, can't win unless unemployment starts falling, wages stop falling, foreclosures slow, house-prices bottom, gas-prices stops rising. Cheerleading, loyalty, and fervent support - in words and action - from his base, whatever that now is, is not going to suffice. And it's frankly not even helpful.

    I'll be happy and relieved if I'm proven wrong. But part of being a progressive is not just the set of values you have, but the set of beliefs about how economic reality works. Tax cuts, deregulation, and liquidation of debtors don't work. Government spending, a social safety net and helping homeowners does. And this administration is broadly opting for the former. So if you think that is likely to work, or good enough, go ahead and support it. But if they fail, and they will, don't go pointing a finger of blame for electoral losses in 2012 on left-wing critics of this administration. That's all I'm saying.

     


    by "support" I mean from the voting public.  The rest of the people don't matter to the political system for obvious reasons.  If there was a groundswell of support for what we believe to be required, those things would happen.  There is not.  We are never allowed to say that the voters are stupid fools, but they are and we have the government we deserve as a result.

     

    Yes, the stimulus was too small and should sbe larger today than it was two years ago.  There is no ecocnomic question about it.  Politically, though, there is inadequate support to overcome GOP resistance.  Same with the public option:  the only really effective way to resolve the heath care problem.  Single payer has been what was needed, but it will not happen with this electorate.  What was enacted was probably all that could be enacted.

     

    And so on.  My evidence is what has happened in fact, not what I want.


    My evidence is what has happened in fact, not what I want.

    We must be reading the evidence differently. In my world, we had a Dem administration running republican-lite policies, and then getting killed in the Midterms for that record. There was no referendum on any progressive policies. So there is exactly zero evidence for the proposition that the public dislikes progressive policies. On the other hand we do have polling evidence that suggests they DO like a whole host of progressive policies.

    The problematic policy positions I'm talking about have nothing to do with GOP resistance, or the 60 vote barrier in the Senate. It's the behavior of governmental agencies - Obama nominees. Financial regulation is the most glaring example. Then there is the decision not to pass the budget nor hiking the debt ceiling during the fall. That was a decision. Not a desire coming up against an obstacle. They wanted to hand the GOP power on those votes. That's the evidence.

    So instead of some much needed further stimulus, we have budget cuts. And more in the pipeline over the debtceiling negotiations. And worst of all, we have fear-mongering over entitlement cuts. If there is ANYTHING highly destructive of economic recovery, it's the fear that one won't be taken care of in retirement. It raises the savings rate as people retrench in fear, and aggregate demand consequently falls. So WHY is the administration playing along on this mascarade?! Because they want the cuts. Geithner is on record saying that everyone understands the need to increase the ceiling, "we want to take advantage of this moment".

    These cuts are highly unpopular. that is uncontroversial. Yet the administration intends to team up with the GOP to push through cuts anyway, doing so while holding a gun to the economy with the self-imposed threat of a debt default. It's not just bad policy. It's insane. They will get hurt at the next election if they go through with it.

    But then people like yourself will just say ... it's the dumb electorate's fault.

    Dumb and dumberer...


    This comment reminded me of a recent comment by Bob Somerby.  He was commenting on the tendency of the punditry to rely on opinion polls to the exclusion of election results.  I forget what was driving this mini-story, but a lot of the commentariat was pointing out that, if you went by opinion polls, Ronald Reagan was never that popular with more than half of the country for most of his presidency.  Yet he managed to win 44 and 49 states in his two victories, by far the most massive back-to-back landslides in the last half-century.

    So, which was more important, the opinion polls in 1983, or the election in 1984?  I've gotta go with the second option.


    Good example.  The polls pick up people who just did not like President Reagan, nor did they like what he represented.  But Vice President Mondale was boring, they told us and omigod, he said that taxes would be raised during the next four years:  what a mistake.  And they stayed home.  And President Reagan won a huge re-election, followed by Iran-Contra---hugely unpopular, but yet Vice President Bush won the election to succeed him because, Gov Duakakis was boring and, Iomigod! he looked like a fool wearing that helmet on a tank and what about that Willie Horton....

    If we want the President to stand up for what we believe, we have to vote, we have to make noise, we have to become a force,  We have to make someone pander to us, instead of to Them.  We don't and we jump ship over every single disagreement.

    Watch Rachel's summary of the first two years, linked above.  It is quite a record despite it all.  Yes, it could be better, but that is as much our fault as it is the President's.  "In your hand, more than mine...."

     

     

     

     

     


    If we want the President to stand up for what we believe, we have to vote, we have to make noise, we have to become a force,  

    A noise of discontent, a vote of NO confidence?

    LISTEN UP YOU ARROGANT POLITICIANS, DO AS WE SAY OR YOU WILL NOT GET OUR VOTES.!!!!!!!

    Yet elsewhere in this post you say those who speak up are a "part of the problem:"

    The problem is, the Democratic (small r) and the Republican ( R ) ARE  listening to the same bosses. (Sorry, but you are not the boss)

    You peons are led to believe the Politician really cares about YOU.

    FOOL. As long as you think you have a voice or any power. , Those in Power will remain in Power. 


    Not to mention how the price of a gallon of gas tends to affect Presidential politcs, no matter who is driving the price up...silently.


    Fwiw, I wouldn't put too much store in the primary wars that got so heated. That involved, imho, a small minority of supporters on each side. I think most democrats were happy with both (or before that - all three) dem candidates, and it ultimately swung Obama's way simply because he had a better organization. I do however think that those people who thought Washington did not just need a safe pair of hands (3-o'clock in the morning phone call type people) but rather needed to be shaken up by leveraging a broad popular movement, those people would have had more hopes of Obama being able and inclined to do that. And I think there is in those quarters a somewhat bitter disappointment in both the substance of his policies (too moderate) and the manner in which he implements them (too much behind-closed-doors negotiating with lobbies). Those who felt disenfranchised and excluded and ignored during the Bush years don't feel much better now. Washington still seems as out of touch with popular priorities as it has been for the last decade.

    So to a certain extent, yes: some of the most fervent Obama supporters are probably among his most virulent detractors at this point. That goes with the territory - when you have the power to inspire that kind of hope in people, you are inevitably going to inspire a sense of betrayal when you are not seen as even trying to live up to those hopes.


    Obama stated “ They knew that eventually, the Baby Boom generation would retire, which meant a much bigger portion of our citizens would be relying on programs like Medicare, Social Security, and possibly Medicaid.  Like parents with young children who know they have to start saving for the college years, America had to start borrowing less and saving more to prepare for the retirement of an entire generation.

     

    The Baby Boomers did know they were going to retire and they feared, they could not depend upon the government to provide for future needs.

    The baby boomers invested in their communities, into their homes, deeds of trust, terra.

    They refused to buy stocks and watch managers skim off the top while those manipulators fixed the game   

    The Wall Street crowd didn’t like the flow of money into the real-estate asset class.

    Makes one wonder whether Bernanke’s friends who loved Treasuries and bonds, felt they too were missing out on the baby boomers savings.

    Well that could be easily fixed…… DESTROY THE HOUSING MARKET,

    The baby boomers will have to work longer, seeing as how the asset they invested in, was purposely DESTROYED.

    MR BANKER; YOU WILL NOT BE MADE TO SUFFER BY THIS PLAN ;  You will be bailed out.

    Sorry;  baby boomer peasant class.

    I strongly believe OBAMA knew the plan all along. The working class was expendable

    Win the Future.. because everything you saved before,  is gone,  Oh by the way the government doesn’t want to save your class either.  

    Capitalism is saved  Wall street and the banker class will pick the winners and the losers.

    While Obama stood between the pitch forks and the bankers, he knew the plan and he did just as he was told.

    The destruction of the baby boomers was an acceptable strategy, easlily controlled by pretending to care, pretending to fight for the safety net.

    A safety net that wouldn't have been necessary for many successful middle class workers, if the peoples Government hadn't conspired to PURPOSELY allow the destruction of the assets, of the working class homeowner.

    Where was the homeowner bailout?

    Hows that housing remodification plan working out Mr President ?

    Wheres the public option Mr President ?

    When are the troops coming home Mr President?    


    You want a king or dictator.  I am not sure I am against that, but we don;t have one, and will not have one in the near future.

    The Congress would not even allow Guantanamo prisoners to be brought to New York for trial.

    Others have sympathy for your "disappointment." I have none.  You are, as the old saying goes, part of the problem.

     


    You are, as the old saying goes, part of the problem.

    What problem is that?

    We refuse to drink the Kool-Aid? We aren’t like you blind Obamabots? Democrats who feel betrayed by Obama and won't vote to reelect Obama?

    It appears the polls say it is the Obamabots who have the problem.

    Obama the pragmatist?.

    Obama who kicked his base to the curb and under the bus, is now sinking in the polls.

    Now when he seeks reelection, he tells you what you want to hear. but I'll not be disappointed because I know he'll never deliver as promised?  

    The ONLY reason Obama might get reelected, is because the field of Republicans is worse. 

    Obama does realize though, he can't allow a candidate to the left of him.

    So he scrambles to seal up the Democratic donor base.

    Taking advantage of the opportunity offered encumbents. No matter how bad they've performed.  

    He knows he'd further lose the Democratic base, if ANY other promise making Democrat were offered for consideration. Obama' already lost the Independent voters who won't be fooled again.

    Independent voters sick of empty promises.

    Independent voters financially destroyed. Now asked to pay for Obamas error in judgment.  

    You know those Independents, Obama tried to please at the expense of his base?

    I'm sure Obama HOPES he can count on suckers like you, to give him another term to screw the working class over.

    Evidently, the corporate shill has your vote?


    The problem is Republican control of government and of what passes for thought in government.  They got it in 1980 and have barely relinquished it since.  When progressives manage to get their foot in the door, and filibusters and death panels and Kenya make progress all but impossible, a segment of the population whose support is needed for all this, recoils in horror that the monarch could not just snap his fingers and do what they want.  They declare that the parties are basically the same, go home, and then get really ticked off when things get worse.

     

    That's the problem you are part of. 


    The real problem is: President Obama fails to understand the simple principle

    "You can not serve two masters".

    Make a choice, get off the fence,

    The downtrodden slave class, wasn't looking for a fence- straddler, who was trying to avoid picking a side

    Now both sides hate him.

    He claiming to be a centrist is a cop out, a manifestation of his weakness and not being loyal to those who delivered him to victory. 

    We the victors of the election wanted a servant who would change Washington, and serve the causes WE the People fought for.

    Having fought and won the electoral battle, we expected the Servant who said he would do the peoples will, to do as we were led to believe he would do.  

    Now we find out; the servant wants to be indecisive.

    We don’t need either a King or a dictator; ….we need the person who sought the position of President, the servant who claimed he would serve the Democratic ideals. Where is the servant who said he would serve WE. 

    The servant Obama THINKS he can now serve two masters. WTF?  

    Wrong?

    Wrong person,  who took us down the wrong path.

    While one of the masters Obama serves, attempts to enslave the other party.


    Resistance, you know I respect you and your opinions.

    We cannot always get what we want; and sometimes we cannot get quite enough for our needs.

    But I agree with Barth, our House of Lords (the Senate) stopped over 450 bills coming out of the Democratic House.

    And yet we managed to pass several stimulus bills, a health insurance package neverbefore seen in this country, and we managed to really piss off repubs and other corporate interests.

    Anyway, here is song for you. A song I need to listen to when I am a little to full of anger over what might have been:

     

     


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