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"The Democrats’ Progressive Organization Problem"
By artappraiser on Sat, 06/25/2022 - 3:05am |They’re an Albatross Around the Party’s Neck by Ruy Teixeira
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https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/the-democrats-progressive-organization
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Yup
by artappraiser on Sun, 06/26/2022 - 5:39pm
Again, the same meme, on abortion this time. Progressive activists have become snotty purist elitists with no ability to compromise at all, while conservative activists are welcoming to those who might have different views and willing to compromise on the way to their long-term endgame:
I must admit I rarely see anything these days to counter that impression. An impression that seems to be a favorite of Yglesias. And not so different from the complaints about progressives by others as well, like Andrew Yang and Bill Maher. I think those who can't see it are the blind ones, they simplistically equate conservative activism with Tucker Carlsen, Majorie Taylor Green types, but they are wrong, what those types are doing is not activism but simply making hay off the intolerance of progressive activists. That's what they do, day in, day out, simply react with hyperbole to the latest jihad by "progressives". Makes for amusing infotainment, that's why it's popular.
Seriously now, would you like to have a beer with like Greta Thunberg, or Ibram X. Kendi or Nikole Hannah-Jones or Cori Bush, any of the trans enemies of JK Rowling, or Rafia Zakaria? I'd do it with Dan Crenshaw, but not any of them.
by artappraiser on Mon, 06/27/2022 - 11:42pm
Who are these "reasonable conservatives" you keep talking about? I had a bit of a chat with one yesterday, and he didn't understand the trigger laws had kicked in, and that Mississippi's single clinic was already struggling under previous regulations. But he did know to blame Margaret Sanger for blacks' stable population percentage, versus any other factors. But he was sure most liberals are pushing for abortion on demand up to last day. AOC's squad has a pretty tiny piece of influence, for all the attention - is there some other hugely influential bloc of insatiable liberal voters we're talking about, or is this a Fox shibboleth we're debating, the famous Tip O'Neill liberal icon boogieman?
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 06/28/2022 - 1:09am
One example
another:
another:
I think you are in denial about how shrill and ugly so many lefties have become, with cancel culture dominating. It's not the 80's or 90's, it's 2020 and nobody cares what Pat Robertson thinks anymore. Trump has been divisive, to be sure, precisely because he constantly attacks political correctness. He didn't start the political correctness, he attacks it. Otherwise, he doesn't actually stand for much of anything.
by artappraiser on Thu, 06/30/2022 - 4:09pm
Sotomayor's rebuttal in the prayer case is worth noting. Again the conservative majority in this elite supposedly top-of-their-profession are willing to butcher basic facts, not just Constitutional groundings, yet make large-scale Constitutional precedents based on their sloppy reading. It's a shitshow.
And the key tenets came up - previous prayers were led by students, and later some students felt pressured to join the coach's prayer hobby or risk not playing. Showboatters win.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bremerton-school-prayer-joseph-kennedy_n_...
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 06/28/2022 - 1:43am
Mostly I see the picture this way: the conservatives on the Supreme Court are simply true believers in the conservative idea that they are stupid federal elites and most rights should be determined "down ticket" (as politicos call it) in the states and localities. Which makes it all the more important that voting citizens care more about their local races than the president and the U.S. Congress. But they don't, they don't get that, they don't get how little power a president actually has (except in foreign policy and appointing Federal judiciary; it was actually a radical outlier miracle that the Bill Clinton/Rubin fiddling with monetary and trade policy actually affected the domestic economy). Everyone falls for the kabuki show of the national parties and their leaders and invests all of that with more meaning than it has. (Little difference with that and other celebrity worship) ESPECIALLY when you're stuck with a conservative Supreme Court, it is FAR more important who is elected to run your state and local governments, and your governor is your real "president", he or she matters much much more. (Comes to mind people should have learned that lesson from Covid policy under Trump, but they didn't).
Edit to add: we'll see if anything has changed in decades with voter turnout in November won't we?
by artappraiser on Tue, 06/28/2022 - 5:43pm
Or are the unreasonable intolerant pro-abortion activists dominating the left really just trying to get exceptions for common medical emergencies when pregnancies (frequently) go wrong, not the proverbial welfare mom trying to get an abortion her 8th month cuz she was too lazy to take care of it earlier? (actually in the Reagan years she was refusing abortions so as to have more kids to get benefits - how things change)
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 06/28/2022 - 3:07am
Some abortion stats from Fox worth looking at -
Fast Facts: U.S. Abortion Statistics | Fox News
including 100 3rd trimester abortions - almost assuredly medical emergencies.
43% of American women will have an abortion sometime in their life.
80% of women having abortions are single. 60% are white.
Which also begs the question:
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 06/28/2022 - 3:21am
Raw Data: Abortions By Week of Pregnancy – Mother Jones
Forbes points out 45% of pregnancies are unintended:
Abortion By The Numbers (forbes.com)
12% of Americans can't afford a $400 emergency expense
($560 for 1st term medication abortion, 2nd term surgery is $900, travel could be $1000)
Here's a pro-life site claiming the mother's life is never in danger in a pregnancy gone wrong, and that this has been true for "more than half a century"
Ob/Gyn's say they're wrong
Late Term abortions per state
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 06/28/2022 - 3:43am
Who Gets Abortions in America?
THE TYPICAL PATIENT ...
Is Already a Mother.
Is in Her Late 20s.
Attended Some College.
Has a Low Income.
Is Unmarried.
Is in Her First 6 Weeks of Pregnancy.
Is Having Her First Abortion.
Lives in a Blue State.
By Margot Sanger-Katz, Claire Cain Miller and Quoctrung Bui @ NYTimes.com, Dec. 14, 2021
(Note: We are republishing this in light of the Supreme Court’s ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, which overturns Roe v. Wade.)
by artappraiser on Tue, 06/28/2022 - 4:07pm
^ the summary generalization takeaway: most abortion services are currently being used by young, poor single mothers, trying to get their life straightened out, trying to get ahead.
by artappraiser on Tue, 06/28/2022 - 4:49pm
Ben Franklin's home abortion how-to
(what the Founding Fathers wanted, eh Alito?)
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/05/ben-franklin-american-instru...
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/18/1099542962/abortion-ben-franklin-roe-wade-supreme-court-leak
(more complete version under Creative Corner)
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 06/28/2022 - 11:15pm
lol:
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/29/2022 - 1:20am
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by artappraiser on Thu, 06/30/2022 - 2:33am
Obama did a lot towards destroying the self-sufficiency of the DNC & DCCC along with the more grassroots orgs like Move On, instead consolidating his 2008 gains for an Obama-focused campaign mega-org in 2012, which was dissolved by 2016, so that the DNC and DCCC were in frightful economic/orrganizational shape and unable to do the usual regional down ticket campaigning and organizing. Instead the specialty interests have largely filled the void, though often making clear they're not Democrats, and may hate Dems as much as the GOP.
Putting Debbie Wassername in charge was one pretty awful decision to "get her out of the way", and the other lead in 2015/6 wasn't much better. More focused on arguing about debates than GOTV.
Oh yeah, Donna Brazíle - here's her self-righteous rant, more trusting in Russian hackers than her party's candidate, and blaming Hillary for bailing out the useless party machine. You go, girl!
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks...
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 06/30/2022 - 4:26am
Obama fans not going away, tho. For one example, I just ran across this:
As an Independent, I see you often arguing that "everything would just be fine with the party if we went back to the way things were" or "everything will just be fine if we listened to Hillary et. al." I, on the other hand, don't see that ever happening. I think the country has changed, with lots of grown up young people blaming boomers for everything. I don't see the Dem party as it once was coming back and being strong. On the other hand, I do see a lot of potential for a centrist party that not just rejects but attacks extremism on both ends.
by artappraiser on Thu, 06/30/2022 - 3:53pm
Huh? I said over and over i expected Hillary to be history by 2016, that i thought the Party would have groomed some new blood, but all we had was her and Bernie. I mean yes, i think Hillary might have handled some details you don't notice, like Bmaz at Emptywheel is pissed Biden & the Dems aren't filling judicial seats ASAP, especially in Red districts, while Biden was rather handed the nomination and doesn't need to put out that much energy. But Beto or Kamala would've been a disaster, so that's what we got.
On the other hand, explain how someone could take Hillary's centrism and attack more. She was 2nd wave feminism, not PoC - in the MeToo age and whatnot, just tainted by being white if nothing else.
I don't see anything as "being fine" - people be crayzy as fuck. You post like 150 shootings and murders a day. Fuck yeah the country has changed - i wouldn't live there. Sure, have a Sista Souljah moment, but how far do you thing that shtick will go? This ain't 1996 or whatever, Toto - Kansas is fucked, as is Oz. People lie about everything, and it works.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 06/30/2022 - 4:22pm
from "DeSantis '24 War Room"
by artappraiser on Thu, 06/30/2022 - 3:17pm
Perfect example of elite liberal cancel culture warrior activist that turns people off liberalism. He's edjumacted, a professor. He's outraged that Biden thinks Alan Simpson is one noteworthy American (of 17 on the list). He's keeping a list of why Simpson is almost as bad as Hitler, and would like to share it and his outrage with you:
Outrage, outrage, outrage is on offer....
Maybe I'm the only one left, but I still have a belief that most people actually appreciate someone with a sense of humor instead, like, oh, Alan K. Simpson for one...
by artappraiser on Sat, 07/02/2022 - 12:34am
An anti-immigration group almost seems quaint - most of GOP are 1-person hate groups on that issue
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 07/02/2022 - 1:58am
by artappraiser on Sat, 07/02/2022 - 6:51pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 07/03/2022 - 4:01am
by artappraiser on Sun, 07/03/2022 - 8:52pm
on another thread, reply directly to Omar's tweet about Dems needing to "fight":
common immigrant take on leftie activists who are also immigrants: "you are being extreme wanting to change what helped you"
by artappraiser on Sun, 07/03/2022 - 9:15pm
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by artappraiser on Mon, 07/04/2022 - 3:15am
by artappraiser on Mon, 07/04/2022 - 3:21pm
white feminist women have been a failure, they need to sit down, shut up and follow Black and indigenous women who knew how this should be handled all along, see whole thread -
yeah but, she doesn't exactly say what they've been doing different (except maybe voting for Dems? that's obliquely implied) and I gotta tell ya I am not exactly sold on what she says, after all, she doesn't have her prescription, does she? And stuff like black women being killed by black men much more often than white women are killed by white men, and you know, like suffragettes being way ahead of MLK Sorry, no sale, I think I'll just stay with the white feminists for now instead of bitchy holier than thou rhetoric...
oh and if you were so good at organizing how come more minorities voted for Trump the second time around
I could go on and on. Mostly along the lines of people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, and Dr. heal thyself first...
by artappraiser on Tue, 07/05/2022 - 2:34pm
Who the fuck is she? She has 4378 followers - she's just a pimple on the ass of the internet.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 07/10/2022 - 3:14am
White House doing a bit of Sister Souljah - strong enough? and too late or just in time?
I'd certainly say if it has to be noted by a WaPo reporter, it's not strong enough
by artappraiser on Sun, 07/10/2022 - 2:17am
Now I see Politico reporter making a point of playing it up too:
Edit to add: Not only that but I noticed the above only because Josh Kraushaar of Axios retweeted the above and I follow him.
by artappraiser on Sun, 07/10/2022 - 3:12am
Ppl who menstruate upset white men control their bodies now upset lead white male not speaking out forcefully enough. Perhaps he should make Jennifer Palmieri his women's rights czarina and keep silent completely? She rather summarized perfectly.
btw, I don't think Sistah Souljahing on Dobbs is terribly ideal from the guy who Sistah Souljahed on the Anita Rice accusations to bolster one of our lead judicial dickheads, but that's just me - I doubt anyone else makes the connection. But i also don't think there's a very compelling sincerity from the Dobbs proponents - they seem to just want to chip away chunk by chunk like the rest of the GOP, and any safeguards left are a sop to pass judicial/electoral muster rather than actual measured approach - they'll hack on the remainder in short order.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 07/10/2022 - 3:28am
In a sign of good news, apparently crude judicial behavior isn't always allowed in conservative states like Alabama.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/alabama-judge-suspended-after-mocking-asi...
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 07/10/2022 - 3:32am
strikes me that they have the same problem we do:
we just pretend we have 2 parties when we don't, we have at least 4.
I really do like the suggestion of Andrew Yang that we have all open primaries and ranked choice voting. All the passionate activists, and also the passionate fans of individual personalities like Trump for example, would have to think then and there what is their priority. Yeah because the moderate masses don't vote at primaries you would end up with some extremism, but less than now, because a coalition would already have been built by the general election time as to prioritization of issues or style or whatever. I.E. the majority of primary voters care about abortion or crime, so here is the candidates that also do.
by artappraiser on Sun, 07/10/2022 - 4:12pm
Pete gets points for Fox messaging
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 07/10/2022 - 6:33pm
(longer thread)
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 07/12/2022 - 7:48am