My opinion: too late for BLM to change their tune now. Much damage was done, literally and figuratively, all summer. Figuratively, there was no blue wave, Dems lost seats in the house, and it that was due to swing voters, many who happened to be P.O.C., just not the right color, not buying in to BLM-related rioting and expressed hatred of police all summer allover the country.

I noticed because I read it. Up to the election, BLM official website read in a lot of sections like a frigging woke anarchist wrote it. Then they had a hard time getting a second of attention from president-elect Joe Biden, major supporter of a past crime bill, and V.P. elect Kamala Harris, former tough prosecutor, and voila they starting moving shit around and saying different stuff. Too little too late.

Insert here the rmrd regular declarative statement that BLM has nothing to the the Capitol riot.

Here's my reply: RIOTING = RIOTING. It's just that simple to most people. Burn their police station, attack their Federal courthouse, loot their downtown, storm their Capitol, it's all the fucking same thing! They're angry about stuff too but they don't excuse rioting, they notice it and they tend not to like the causes that don't speak out about it LOUDLY. And tend to support those that do speak out about it, like these two mayors for example. What I saw: people like them being dissed as uncle tom's by the BLM leadership and most p.r.

I have never said BLM caused "the problem."

I have said I consider BLM a massive counterproductive fail. One of the major fails was not disavowing all violent and looting behavior loudly and clearly so that people did not associate BLM with it, letting extreme left wingers and common criminals and juvies align with it  and dis those who told them to go home.

To the general public, it is now aligned with tearing down statues of like Junipero Serra and Lincoln and abolitionist hey, stealing sneakers by the carload around L.A. and Santa Monica and Chicago, and in Philly emptying all the big box stores, everywhere tagging blocks and blocks of downtowns with ugly graffitti,  burning down Kenosha's government buildings, ruining Chicago's magnificent mile,  and Santa Monica's main drag, trashing several Macy's that are a favorite of "the black community", burning down the only grocery in Minneapolis where that poor old lady needed to shop, screaming at liberal mayors, telling them they should be ashamed of themselves..

Because there were no leaders except Keisha Lance Bottoms to say anything early on. And she was dissed for being an Uncle Tom sell  out. It was soooo important to tear down those CNN letters and later on, burn that gas station out on the highway because police wouldn't let them hang out there night after night after night...

and ya know, lighting dumpsters on fire and rolling them around the streets, just cool fun SO HEROIC

blocking traffic and then pulling guns on each other when someone stuck in traffic can't take it anymore

trying to burn down historic courthouses...

keeping people from using court buildings...

throwing molotov cocktails in police cards

then there's terrorizing people eating dinner-AWESOME,

taking over a highway every night for weeks and the police let you do it until you get run down by some crazy immigrant kid WOW inspiring!

and doing things like terrorizing white liberals in Wauwautosa because they won't go along with lynching a black cop, running around their yards at night trying to scare them, KKK style

thousands of businesses attacked allover the country, many black owned...

Al Sharpton, to his credit, tried to reverse some of the damage, but he waited way too long to support the Dem mayors who had to deal with this shit.

I could go on and on...I heard all about it from Midwest and L.A. relatives and scions of Westchester along the lines "what the hell is going on in this country?" waaaay before Jan. 6

FWIW from an email from a family member in Milwaukee not that far away

....The mob came after the police officer that was justified in every shooting for no reason over than a target. they’ve lied and manipulated the facts .black officer BTW. Protesters have been terrorizing him & his residence girlfriend kids for weeks now . Mainstream Media Downplaying everything....

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by artappraiser on Thu, 10/08/2020 - 2:51pm

same thing ALLOVER the country, not for one day but for months and months and months during a worldwide pandemic, over and over and over, terrorizing store owners and just regular people in their homes, wrecking the livelihoods of immigrant Bronx storekeepers...taking over streets and causing all downtowns to be boarded up...fires allover the place...

This is how I will remember BLM!  This is how I will remember it. As a significant nightmare addition to 2020. The country falling apart. And I am a liberal, just not into violent revolution. There are plenty of others like me. Not the way to run a positive movement as far as I am concerned. Massive massive fail. So much potential at the beginning with massive peaceful, all of it lost, step by step.

AGAIN RIOTING IS RIOTING, ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE NUTS LIKE WHEN IT HAPPENS. It's not an "only acceptable if my side does it" for the majority, it's simply unacceptable.