MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Barr tries to purge SDNY atty investigating Trump cronies (Geoffrey Berman)
By artappraiser on Fri, 06/19/2020 - 9:46pm |Wowww https://t.co/UJz66UhWNa
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) June 20, 2020
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https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1274152799404797952?s=20
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by artappraiser on Fri, 06/19/2020 - 9:53pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 06/19/2020 - 9:59pm
NYTimes:
by artappraiser on Fri, 06/19/2020 - 10:16pm
Radio Free Tom:
by artappraiser on Fri, 06/19/2020 - 10:20pm
How did Bolton put it? Who gives a rat's ass how Bolton put it. He should be totally ignored and let to fade into de facto nonexistence.
by A Guy Called LULU on Fri, 06/19/2020 - 11:24pm
Insider accounts of people we don't like almost always come from people we don't like. If we ignore any report from people we don't like we'll never get any information about what happened behind closed doors of institutions run by people we don't like.
by ocean-kat on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 11:52am
Someone made the same point about say FBI informants - you'll struggle pretty hard to find an angel that's mucking around with devils for usable dirt. Any leak or breach of the wall of silence will be someone pretty unsavory. That's the business.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 12:30pm
Will Trump in his desperation go the polonium cologne route?
Would Putin trust him with it?
Or would he figure it likely it would prematurely end the Trump 1000 year reign while also wiping out every last one of the idiot shills occupying the West Wing?
by NCD on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 2:34pm
Yes, if we used that standard and we knew who Deep Throat was we'd have to ignore him. And many of the biggest leaks came from Felt. Especially on the left if we considered Felt's part in the illegal activities in the investigation of the Weather Underground. On top of that he wasn't leaking for any noble purpose but likely because he was pissed at being passed over for promotion.
by ocean-kat on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 2:45pm
The way you apply a set of high moral standards and judgments to people working within the politics of a democracy, as if that could ever come to pass, is what makes it a useless practice to discuss anything with you.
It's admirable and fine to do it when you vote, but it has nothing to do with making a democratic system operable, which is set up to work with people of all kinds of morals and views, a huge mix of agendas and goals and morals, horse trading certain things for others in order to keep some kind of peace.
I see zero reason to rail about John Bolton, it's like baying at the moon. How is he useful to any agenda I might hve and how is he not is the only thing that makes sense to spend time on.
Your neighbor thinks we should go to war and you don't. That's democracy. You don't get to imprison the other guy for his morals. That would be some kind of authoritarian system. You don't like John Bolton and mostly he doesn't like you, figure out something you can agree on anyways.
by artappraiser on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 3:52pm
Comes to mind First they after Bolton, then they came after...
by artappraiser on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 4:26pm
I have actually railed against Bolton many times in the past as he established himself as a maniac warmongering sociopathic liar who preaches the dogma of the neocon crazies who put no value on human life outside our borders and was doing so from positions of power. Now that he is at least temporarily out of any official position I do not like seeing him or anything he says to be legitimized in any way that helps him maintain any influence at all. Ever. Anywhere. I see no good reason to cynically use him to add a pound of accusation to a ton of knowledge we already have that completely disqualifies Trump if he, Bolton, is to gain anything at all in influence or legitimacy or money from doing so. And, in what you describe as railing against Bolton, as I have actually just done, I hardly suggested that he be imprisoned just because I don't like him. That is a bit of counterfactual hyperbole, don't ya think? I suggested that he should be ignored and shunned and be let to quietly descend into obscurity.
by A Guy Called LULU on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 5:20pm
Thing is I see Bolton as a maniac warmongering sociopath etc. but mostly and usually not a liar. That's why I think this book will have value.
by ocean-kat on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 5:29pm
John Dean:
by artappraiser on Fri, 06/19/2020 - 10:21pm
More from Preet Bharara:
by artappraiser on Fri, 06/19/2020 - 10:59pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 06/19/2020 - 11:13pm
Trending on Twitter/Politics as "Friday Night Massacre"
by artappraiser on Fri, 06/19/2020 - 11:55pm
Saturday matinee: "Dawn of the Living Dead"
when you come in for the kill, better not miss
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 1:57am
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 5:23am
Recap/explainer of these events by historian Heather Cox Richardson.
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/june-19-2020
by EmmaZahn on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 1:13pm
Fascinating. More popcorn, please. Hoisted by own reptard, it appears.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 1:35pm
From the link:
.....It seems worth noting that the Supreme Court is about to hand down a decision on whether Deutsche Bank and Trump’s accountants have to hand Trump’s financial records over to Congress and to the Manhattan district attorney, which might well spark legal trouble for the president in New York .....
Something else stinks about this crisis, too, and that is the Tulsa rally the president originally scheduled for tonight. Widespread objection to holding a Trump rally on Juneteenth—the historic celebration of Black freedom-- in Tulsa, where a race massacre destroyed the Black community of Greenwood in 1921, forced him to reschedule for tomorrow. But had the rally been held, with media focus on disturbances at it and on the spread of coronavirus there, it seems likely that Berman’s firing would not have gotten much attention.
by NCD on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 2:21pm
Also nice that Roberts voted twice with the left wing/Dems, Gorsuch once, going into this critical decision.
Seeing Barr exercise bad faith so many times of late, don't think he'll be winning a lot of good will & consideration.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 2:40pm
Update: Berman fired
Seems only Trump had the official power to do it.
But not bragging/tweeting this time.
Style pointa to Berman fór coming in on a Saturday
("just catching up on some work, typical day at the office")
Clears Berman to testify before scheduled Congressional hearings Wednesday
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 06/21/2020 - 12:31am
by artappraiser on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 5:16pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 5:56pm
Here is an "Impeach Barr" petition targeted at Congress and organized by nonpartisan folks with elite connections:
by artappraiser on Sat, 06/20/2020 - 6:09pm
One good outcome from Berman putting up a fight is that the Acting Attorney will be Audrey Strauss (Berman's deputy) instead of "Craig Carpenito, currently the United States Attorney for the District of New Jersey."
The continuity means there will be a delay in the delay. I bet the Saturday work session was developing Plan B.
by moat on Sun, 06/21/2020 - 10:52am