MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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RUSSIAN FEDERATION SITREP 19 November 2015
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So, when Assad killed all those unarmed protesters and then started bombing his own population, he was taking on the Wahhabi for Team Civilization. A half day tutorial about the people in the region and their various ethinic and religious allegiances makes that claim less glossy.
The doping charge comment reminds me of a cartoon from the Daily Star.
by moat on Thu, 11/19/2015 - 8:21pm
Moat, I'm glad you read and thanks for commenting but I am not sure how to take either the exact meaning or the tone of what you said. Was your first sentence intended to end with a question mark?
I, personally, look for alternate points of view on the world situation while not expecting to find one that is perfect or without any mistake. Examining one that puts some of the blame for problems on the US rather than from a neocon, or neocon influenced, point of view is not intended, by me at least, to put a gloss on Assad, but I believe that our MSM puts way too much gloss on our own leaders and their actions/motives. I am not aware of any government which cannot be legitimately criticized and the ones engaged in hostilities all, every single one, are guilty of crimes. And, the more powerful the government is the greater their inclination and ability to commit crimes and the greater is the affect of those crimes. I am sure that everyone reading this has seen the iconic picture of the first moments of "Shock and Awe.
There were certainly many, many more innocent Iraqis killed in the first minute of that attack than were killed in the terrorist attack in Paris. The concept of "Shock and Awe" as a military tactic is, by definition, terrorism. And, even if we come to believe what I almost always judge to be lies, which is that our own country's actions are based on good intentions as for instance the liberal interventionists would have us believe, we might also think that those actions are blindingly stupid. I say "we", but I am of course only speaking for myself.
So, here is another alternative point of view which I think merits attention by those who think our country's foreign policy is worth paying attention to and maybe even important enough to influence our vote.
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/11/19/tangled-threads-of-us-false-narrat...
by A Guy Called LULU on Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:20pm
Along those same lines:
https://theintercept.com/2015/11/20/cnns-punishment-of-refugee-defending...
by A Guy Called LULU on Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:50pm
I want to thank you for the link. I read it this morning and followed many of the links to other articles.
I agree with the CNN journalist's tweet. Lady Liberty did hang her head in shame.
by trkingmomoe on Fri, 11/20/2015 - 4:26pm
by A Guy Called LULU on Fri, 11/20/2015 - 4:38pm
I didn't use a question mark because I meant for the sentence to be a paraphrase of some of the article's content. Rhetorical questions are just that. I will say more about this content but first want to say this:
Our MSM is not building an informed electorate. Sometimes it tells outright lies to influence public opinion. Most of the time, however, it gets the results it is looking for by merely oversimplifying a narrative or event. How people get referred to as complicit or not in an action or the events leading up to an action is the principal method for taking discrete elements and blending them into an easily digestible smoothie that tastes a certain way.
I take your point that the Armstrong piece reflects a world view that mirrors the way the "solidarity" world-view stabs fingers at the defects of other people while ignoring its own. I hear Armstrong's hint of self-awareness of this by calling it a "one-pager." But my pursuit of different points of view than my own has caused me to lose interest in such complete explanations. More mirrors won't increase the number of who are well informed.
Now, back to complicating things. When Armstrong said, "None of this means a thing and won't until we start to hear about the role of Wahhabism in all this, where it comes from and who spreads it", I nodded head in agreement and rang the cowbell. The role the Wahhabi sect played in the formation of the Saudi state and continues to do so today is key to going beyond the most superficial accounts of the region. But the buzz kill was only a few words away when Armstrong says, Washington and its allies cannot support jihadists in one place and expect to control them in another. I suppose he could be making a sly reference to the fact the U.S. is entangled with Saudi Arabia but the casual generality more directly brands all Sunni Muslims carrying a gun as being the same people with the same goals. You don't have to travel to Moscow for this smoothie. The same product is available throughout the lands of the "solidarity" theater. While Saudi Arabia has made great efforts in blood and money to distribute its interpretation of Islam, it is also at war with the fruit of its labor. Al Qaeda and Daesh are at war with the house of Saud. To have the Wahhabi stand for all Salafi is a mistake. To have all Sunni stand with the Salafi is a mistake. If people want to talk like Bernard Lewis and argue how it is all one dish, that is fine. They should knock themselves out. But there are real people in real time that cannot be accounted for by that reckoning. Those real people are the ones fighting or running away from the conflict.
Here is another complication to consider. The expansion of the Salafi sect in Russia can be closely correlated to the groovy way Moscow dealt with Islam over last several decades. (longer than that but that is too complicated) The article is rather dry and was selected because dipping from the sources narrating the Sufi end of the stick would change the subject being discussed on the level of Kipling's "Great Game"
A parting observation:
Perhaps Armstrong's observation that the regime change programs embarked upon by previous Coalitions of the Willing lack excellence should be compared to how the USSR taking over Afghanistan was not the best thing that ever happened to all involved.
by moat on Fri, 11/20/2015 - 5:13pm
Thanks Moat, my experience reading comments here at Dag inclines me to expect from you a response in which intelligence works with knowledge . That is why I prodded you to explain a bit and you didn't disappoint.
by A Guy Called LULU on Fri, 11/20/2015 - 6:20pm
Lulu, Thank you for providing the rant space. I have been mulling this stuff for some time.
by moat on Sun, 11/22/2015 - 3:07pm
Since you two are so wise at dissecting truth and geopolitics, who is at fault for al Qaeda and boko Haram terrorists engaging in massacres of people and raping school girls in Somalia, Nigeria, Mali, Kenya, Sudan ?
On Robert Parry, he has had some good stuff over the years, but he can go off the deep end.
He is still is talking on one of the links about 'Ukraine may have shot down MH-17'. An unnamed intelligence official who Parry talked said some super secret stuff about we did not have all the pictures we should have of Russian missile launchers, or blah blah leading to concocting a bizarre scheme that Ukraine hit the plane to make Russia look bad.
Reality check.
The dead bodies and plane fell on the rebels, gravity tells me they are the shooters, as when a plane blows up, it doesn't travel very far.
Media, pundits and gov't may lie, gravity doesn't. In this case I go with gravity.
And there were also pages and pages of reports from Holland to Malaysia on rebels rifling thru belongings of the dead, blocking access of Dutch investigators to the site and using cell phones of passengers - relatives back in Holland received calls from their dead relatives phones -meaning they were either used by rebels or sold by rebels as rebels controlled the wreck site.
If the rebels didn't do it, why block the investigation? Why act like irresponsible criminals? Maybe because that is what they are.
by NCD on Fri, 11/20/2015 - 7:29pm
It sounds like you know who is at fault. Please explain.
I wasn't exonerating anybody with my account. If that is what you heard then I have not spoken well enough. It wouldn't be the first time.
by moat on Fri, 11/20/2015 - 8:03pm
It might seem an overly simple conclusion, I think the Muslim perpetrators are responsible for the crimes they commit.
Putin did what he had to with Chechnya, that's why Chechens are raising trouble everywhere but Russia recently.
by NCD on Fri, 11/20/2015 - 8:57pm
I like the simplicity of your first paragraph. We are all responsible for what we do. Those Islamic absolutists included.
But the second paragraph is a pat justification for bad things. You are a smart person. Check it out. I am not going to help you.
by moat on Fri, 11/20/2015 - 9:29pm