MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Chris Hedges writes about the betrayal Cornel West feels towards Obama in a way that has left me shaken and wondering where to go from here.
Comments
I haven't read the Hedges piece, Stilli, but I'll try to soon.. But I should warn you that Cornell West supporters (not many) took a major drubbing at dagblog. Many thought it wasn't so much Truth as Personal Invective, it seems. Just so you know... ;o)
http://dagblog.com/link/cornel-wests-tragic-meltdown-10325#comments
by we are stardust on Fri, 05/20/2011 - 2:33pm
Star...I didn't know who Cornel West was, and I still don't know much about him, so I can't judge his veracity on any of that. It's just that as I read the peice, I had the sinking feeling I was reading something truthful, at least some part of it. I'm not ready to take it as a wholesale condemnation of Obama, but I know there is some truth there. And it hurts like hell.
by stillidealistic on Fri, 05/20/2011 - 5:03pm
Stilli, your title just killed me! So true. I have always seen Cornel West as a pompous, self-absorbed blowhard and nothing I read in the Hedges article has caused me to change my mind. But there is so much truth in what West has to say. I can't deny that. This one heartbreaking nugget of a partial quote says it all for me:
But then he goes on to say the government is corrupt, meaning Obama is corrupt, and there he loses me. I don't believe for a minute that Barack Obama is corrupt. I can agree with Cornel West on much of what he says about Obama's neglect of the poor and middle class, on his choice of cabinet members, on the programs he chose to bail out -- and all of it is damning -- but his whining about not being invited to the inauguration, his ridiculous take on Obama as a black man growing up in a white world (the Left version of "the other"), his pathetic talk of thinking about getting arrested in order to draw attention. . .with that he lost me.
I couldn't help but think about MLK when he couldn't get JFK's attention concerning the plight of the negro in JFK's America. King felt that Kennedy was letting the poor and the blacks down, that promises had not been kept, that he was being snubbed, but King's brilliance came not from publicly dissing Kennedy but by using the power of his speeches to bring millions of people to his side. His message could not be ignored.
There was a dignity to Martin Luther King that Cornel West attempts but will never achieve. His small-mindedness comes through nearly every time he opens his mouth. It does no good to speak the truth if no one can stand to listen.
by Ramona on Fri, 05/20/2011 - 3:47pm
Obama is just a corrupt as Wall Street and the the rest of Washington because he and they came from exactly the same world.
by cmaukonen on Fri, 05/20/2011 - 3:53pm
Sorry, I don't agree that Obama is corrupt. But what world is it exactly that they all came from? Seems to me Barack's world is far different from theirs. . .or from anybody's, for that matter.
by Ramona on Fri, 05/20/2011 - 5:22pm
Sorta like reading "clearthinker" over at TPM! I could get through the arrogance to the gem. There's a gem in here. I'm just not sure how much of one.
I'd like to believe that Obama isn't corrupt. I'd like to believe he is a victim of circumstance...but I don't know, Ramona. My faith is shaken, and this is going to take some exploration.
I met Jason Miller for lunch a couple of days ago, and we tossed around the idea that once Obama was inaugurated, he was taken to an undisclosed location and given the big picture, by representatives of the people who are REALLY in charge. I know it's whacko sounding conspiracy theory stuff, but I think there is a LOT going on that we don't know about.
by stillidealistic on Fri, 05/20/2011 - 5:10pm
The President abandoned the poor? Really? Seems to me that Congress abandoned the poor long ago and Americans themselves abandoned the poor. Remember the 90's when the Welfare system was dismantled, you know those welfare queens and their Cadillac.. remember that? Hmm, who abandoned the poor again? Oh and Americans by and large, you remember them, the middle class, they were 100% behind this action. But now that the middle class needs more services suddenly it's the President who has abandoned the poor, in fact they believe they are now poor and they need some services themselves. Well they should be pissed at themselves for targeting the poor for so long as the root of all evils. I certainly remember the 1990's very well and Ronald Reagan who helped to demonize the poor.
When will the American people hold congress accountable? When will they hold themselves accountable for some horrible decisions made in the past, and when will they force congress to rectify those terrible decisions. When will the American people quit bitching that they pay too much in taxes, but expect services at the same levels they've always received services, when are they going to take some responsibility for what has happened to the nation?
Who wouldn't pass a more robust stimulus? Yes the Senate, and who is responsible for no public option? Right the Senate, because the President did advocate for a public option, but the Senate said... nooooooo. Literally every issue has been impacted by the inaction or intransigence of the Senate.
So when are people going to demand reform in the Senate? Do they realize that the Senate holds a veto power over all legislation? How can it be that Americans and so many left leaning bloggers don't push the notion that the Senate reforms that took place in the early 70's have completely disabled the government and fostered the idea that we should legislate ideologically rather than legislate for the nation as a whole.
If there is no rules reform in the Senate, there will be no changes.
sigh..
okay
/rant over... for now
by tmccarthy0 on Fri, 05/20/2011 - 6:00pm
Reposting response here:
Are people still trying to rewrite this history? A refresher here:
Several hospital lobbyists involved in the White House deals said it was understood as a condition of their support that the final legislation would not include a government-run health plan paying Medicare rates — generally 80 percent of private sector rates — or controlled by the secretary of health and human services.
“We have an agreement with the White House that I’m very confident will be seen all the way through conference,” one of the industry lobbyists, Chip Kahn, director of the Federation of American Hospitals, told a Capitol Hill newsletter.
And that deal was confirmed by Messina
Not to worry, Jim Messina, the deputy White House chief of staff, told the hospital lobbyists, according to White House officials and lobbyists briefed on the call. The White House was standing behind the deal, Mr. Messina told them, capping the industry’s costs at a maximum of $155 billion over 10 years in exchange for its political support.
So that was way before the final vote, and before other versions of a public option cropped up, like the one involving Medicare buy-ins for the over 55 opposed only by Lieberman in the Dem caucus, one which hence could have passed the final reconciliation vote, where Obama inexplicably instead let it twist in the wind (see here and here for non-firebagger perspectives on what went on there).
As for the stimulus, the opposition from the moderates Collins and Snowe was not on the SIZE of the stimulus, but on what should be in the stimulus bill and what should be in a separate budget bill, and on stuff she didn't think was stimulative. it was not about size. In short Obama got the size he wanted. Look how deferential those GOPers sounded at the time:
“The house passed bill is much more like an omnibus bill than a stimulus bill," Collins said. "I believe we need to have a more targeted and affective bill for it to pass in the senate with bipartisan support.”
Snowe said that Obama was very receptive to her list and suggested that each provision within the bill should have a job creation number associated with it so its effectiveness can be scrutinized on an individual basis.
Snowe also indicated that Obama would not budge much on the overall size of the package in order to reach the proper goal.
“He thinks that it is important to have the right size stimulus plan to affect the economy,” Snowe said adding, “He understands there have been concerns…he was much aware of the discretionary expenditures that were in question.”
Again, see those 'concerns'? They're about specific discretionary expenditures. On size, they pretty much let Obama have his cake. If he had asked for what Roemer thought adequate he would have gotten a bill double the size of the one he ultimately opted for. I.e. if it failed, he owns that failure.
I can't believe we're still having this argument. This is pretty straightforward stuff. The senate rules do create all kinds of limitations, but the failures of the PPACA and ARRA are entirely the administration's.
by Obey on Fri, 05/20/2011 - 7:35pm
West, I hate to say is spot on. I have thought this from the get go. You want to picture Washington and every one in it ? Then think the Loch Ness Monster from The 7 Faces of Dr. Lao but with each head being the president and a member of congress and the body being Wall Street.
All just heads of the same corrupt body. Bush was only different in that he was meant to be a puppet. That is why he was chosen. Unfortunately you cannot shrink it tat easy, even though the Tea Party crowd would like to.
by cmaukonen on Fri, 05/20/2011 - 3:52pm
Oh, we don't have to choose sides. I think Chris Hedges, Cornell West and Barack Obama are good human beings with their own human frailities and with different roles which they are performing pretty well.
by Flavius on Fri, 05/20/2011 - 3:56pm
Breathe
by Flavius on Fri, 05/20/2011 - 4:07pm
Oh, we don't have to choose sides.
Bravo, Flav.
I really dislike the part about blogging where you hafta take sides with bloggers, reporters, writers and pundits, fur or agin, sorta like forming cliques in high school. Nor where one becomes a "fan" or "supporter" (and that includes politicians running for president. ) On the flip side, I like the part about blogging where one analyzes the work of bloggers, reporters, writers and pundits. Including analyzing when they are having snit fits about each other and not acting like grownups.
I accept the part of becoming a fan of someone's work, as an individual, not as part of some team. One is already giving them all the support they need or ask for by paying attention to their work, like it or loathe it.I.E., I like and enjoy a lot of Christopher Hitchens work, but have always loathed his opinions on the Clintons and everything related, I always suspect there is some blinding rage personal vendetta there as regards Blumenthal et. al.
Thinking on this makes me wonder, why so many are so interested in forming imaginary teams and cliques and being supporters or fans when some of the most ridiculed and berated things about standard white collar work is the staff meeting or the politics of working on teams or the fetishizing of a leader or the inspirational corporate pep rally ala Tony Robbins?
by artappraiser on Fri, 05/20/2011 - 4:20pm
I'm not suggesting that we need to choose sides, Flav...my point is that I have a sick feeling there is some truth in what West is saying that needs to be paid attention to. I don't think there are many here that DON'T know the high regard I have for the President. This article has shaken my faith in him, and I know I need to do some more investigating.
I'm not even saying that should I determine West is completely correct I will not vote for him again. But if I do (and truly, I cannot see myself NOT voting for him, given the likely choices) I want to do it with my eyes open.
by stillidealistic on Fri, 05/20/2011 - 5:17pm