MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Twitter thread by a vox.com writer:
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The victimology/persecuted minority angle sarcastically noted by Dana Millbank @ WashingtonPost.com, Oct. 29:
Hasn’t Trump suffered enough?
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/30/2018 - 5:07am
Jennifer Rubin, WaPo today, on how media should treat the caravan matter:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/10/30/how-to-cover-...
by AmericanDreamer on Tue, 10/30/2018 - 12:37pm
Fox "News" Shep Smith debunks Trump's migrant-caravan rhetoric: 'there is no invasion'
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fox-news-shepard-smith-debunks-trumps-...
Of course, even pushing back on the migrant caravan matter and its purpose...keeps/puts the migrant caravan on the air, increasing its visibility.
If you believe, as I do, that the visual images of it that Fox will beam out non-stop for the next week, along with the visual images of the troops that are going to be deployed weeks before it even arrives at the border (if it does), are likely to have far more impact on election turnout and results than any words used on Fox to feed its viewers, then you might be excused for thinking of Smith's actions here as just sly and disingenuous.
To my knowledge he still has a job. I don't doubt that if they tried to fire him over this he would tell them why what he's doing actually does far more to reinforce than undercut the company line on this business, giving the reason I just gave above.
It's the heads we win, tails you lose tack. Rinse. Repeat. If it were easy to thwart it they wouldn't keep doing it.
I do not intend to or want to waste any more words on this tawdry matter. But...if someone else asks a question or says something in response, or if there is some newly outrageous development that seems to cry out for comment, I may well be tempted. And so it goes...
by AmericanDreamer on Tue, 10/30/2018 - 12:58pm
Great comment of your own, Dreamer, to add to the thread. I just reread the beginning of Roberts thread. And he's basically pointing out the similar, excerpt my underlining:
So I thought: here we are once again for the umpteenth time put in the spot of the GOP playbook of wedge issue/culture war to gin up the troops against the screaming masses of liberals who as if puppets with strings pulled object to their favorite wedgie at the time (Immigrants, Terry Shiavo, doesn't matter...it's an identity issue they need, that's what they'll get)
The point: this is not Trumpism! This is Newt Gingrich. Nothing new here. Newt came out and announced it in public only a short time ago: this election will hinge on Kavanaugh and The Caravan. He's blatant and we're suprised?
Just happens to synch with one of Trump's favorite topics, but it's not Trumpism
So an afterhought on the side issue of Shep Smith: he has objected to a lot of Trumpism and kept his job. But objecting to classic Newt Gingrich Contract with America culture wars, that might be more dangerous @ Fox? We'll see.
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/30/2018 - 2:04pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/31/2018 - 12:25am
Thinking outside the vox bubble....
Roberts says in the 2nd tweet* of that thread:
Ha ha, who's afraid of a bunch of women and children, right?
What about working class parents, regardless of race, who might see them as competition for jobs, housing and social services and not just their own but those of their children as well. Doubt working class non-parent are all that welcoming either.
*Was not sure whether to embed tweet or just link, so just quoted it.
by EmmaZahn on Wed, 10/31/2018 - 7:52am
OMG, Emma!!! How I have missed your input!
Yes to your point. That is exactly what to be careful about with "overreach," especially from elite voices. Many people are just now getting used to being able to find a fucking job, when they couldn't before, but haven't gotten to the stage of figuring out how the heck to get employers pay a little more along the lines of supply and demand.
But this is precisely why I think it would be dangerous for Dems to get unfairly labeled as supporting completely open borders, which is what Trump is trying to do. It's very important that they get across that they are for new sensible immigration standards and that executing that to the preferences of the majority of the citizenry is something they are going to take seriously. And that it's not going to be easy, that it's going to be hard complicated work just like health care, especially in these times of lots of refugees. It's so important, it's causing a lot of problems everywhere in the world right now.
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/31/2018 - 8:18pm
Thank you for the compliment, art, but I haven't really had much input since I last posted here so you haven't missed any. :) Not really sure why I commented this time. Probably because Vox annoys me. I try to avoid it but I read this thread before checking who wrote it. And it did turn out worthwhile because after commenting I fell into a rabbit hole researching remittances. They are a substantial part of Guatemala's economy, equal to 2/3 of its exports, but only about 1/4 ends up in the lower deciles while most of the remainder goes to the top 3. That's a huge disincentive for wealthier Guatemalans to alter the status quo. They will likely encourage, if not outright finance, emigration as long as they continue to profit from remittances. Doubt a border wall will make a dent in those, at least not for a very long time given the number of Guatemalans already living here. And it is not just a Guatemala/USA problem. Remittances are a global issue. Not sure what the solution is. I am going to keep reading.
by EmmaZahn on Thu, 11/01/2018 - 4:29pm
Another angle is the pretty serious trend for the wealthy of Latin America to shelter money in pied-a-terre property in Miami and Manhattan (i.e. Kushner Trump kinda places. oh the irony? not, actually it's pretty straightforward, it's basically the Trump biz model!) rather than put it in their own countries. International money doing that is turning Manhattan into a ghost town, the skyline around Central Park is being radically altered as we comment here, with a ton of thin needle skyscraper condos on little spits of land being built, they are specifically targeting the ghost market. Thousands and thousands of new multi million dollar apartments, most of them empty most of the year.
by artappraiser on Thu, 11/01/2018 - 5:59pm
I'm thinking Eddie Murphy was onto something, but we're the wrong kind of white people sadly, no one giving us a condo.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 11/01/2018 - 6:19pm
caught my eye after reading your comment; of course it's a "thing" we've all surmised from history, but interesting to see it in a recent psychology paper:
from Op-ed by a psychiatrist @ NYTimes.com, Oct. 31
The Neuroscience of Hate Speech
Humans are social creatures who are easily influenced by the anger and rage that are everywhere these days.
this from that was also interesting as far as the whole tribal thing:
by artappraiser on Thu, 11/01/2018 - 7:51pm
Current NYTimes headline story suggests Trump has decided to go all out class war on this:
Trump’s Nationalism Is Breaking Point for Some Suburban Voters, Risking GOP Coalition
1h ago
Yes ironic for a billionaire who brags how he's more elite than the elites, but that's a real tired old story already. All he cares about is who he thinks his fans are. After all, the wealthy suburbanites were never watching The Apprentice.
by artappraiser on Thu, 11/01/2018 - 9:27pm
not what it first appears if you click all the way through:
by artappraiser on Thu, 11/01/2018 - 8:51pm
he's going rogue, crazytown in full force, no reins, all out call to the fan base, screw what GOP political ops think:
by artappraiser on Thu, 11/01/2018 - 10:19pm
Edit to add, reminded of this from Kristof's column about manipulation of tribal impulses the other day:
by artappraiser on Sat, 11/03/2018 - 2:48am
a debunking agitprop story is currently # 1 most popular @ The Weekly Standard!
Fact Check: Does This Image Show a "Mexican Official being Dragged by the Caravan"?
by artappraiser on Sat, 11/03/2018 - 2:54am
Very interesting that this was not the original GOP plan:
by artappraiser on Sat, 11/03/2018 - 8:21pm
In the end, Trump really doesn't really give a shit about any of this, deep down I suspect he doesn't give much of a shit whether GOP wins or not, in the end he's only doing all of it for the attention drawn to him. It just hit me now seeing this > Look at how he feels threatened by Oprah as a bigger celebrity who can draw a lot of attention when she helps a campaign:
He'd probably actually like being impeached! It's really going to be no skin off his back to have Dems in Congress attacking him. It will just be more continued attention, the kind Oprah can't get.
The immigration thing as well as the tariff thing are just classics he uses that he knows the base likes. He can change that with whim if they no longer like it.
Makes me think that if Dems win Congress, constituents should make clear they want the priority to be attention to policy made by the adminstration over Trump follies, many of which are not real. He can troll and unnecessarily attract attention to himself while distracting from the minions while they execute GOP policies, that he can do
by artappraiser on Sun, 11/04/2018 - 6:47pm
Yup (found just now on twitter because "liked" by Maggie Haberman):
by artappraiser on Mon, 11/05/2018 - 6:39pm
danger danger warning warning, some other things on his mind, kindler gentler things, actually extra scary:
by artappraiser on Mon, 11/05/2018 - 7:43pm