The Bishop and the Butterfly: Murder, Politics, and the End of the Jazz Age

    Hillary takes a shit

    By PeraclesPlease on Mon, 09/12/2016 - 2:45pm |

    Faced with condemnation from David Axelrot for not being more forthcoming about her pneumonia, Hillary Clinton's team has put the traveling press corps on notice that they will be receiving regular updates on bowel movements, including floaters vs sinkers, as well as any gassy bloated moments, painful urination, drowsiness, irritability, and other possible flaws of human nature and physiology. Realizing finally that the media needs to be both in her head as well as up her ass at all times, Clinton will make space in her busy schedule for both thorough proctology checkups as well as amateur psychiatrist and general practitioner hour whereby wannabe physicians and shrinks from all over the land can call in to speculate how Hillary's doing and what her mannerisms could mean. Fortunately we'll all have a chance to play "What's Eating Hillary" as we go into the new campaign season.

     

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    Perhaps it is called walking pneumonia because it generally doesn't require bedrest or hospitalization. Although that comes from the Cleveland Clinic and what do they know?

    http://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases_conditions/hic_Pneumonia/h...

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    by rmrd0000 on Mon, 09/12/2016 - 3:10pm

    My mother not only has allergies but in her 50's got cancer and had to have a hysterectomy with extensive radiation therapy. She's now 87 and in amazingly good health. Can still walk without a walker and rides her tricycle around her retirement village every day for about an hour. Here's the thing, humans get sick. I've been sick several times in my life. You've been sick too. As a member of the army band I've seen young soldiers regularly faint during pass and reviews. Even band members would faint occasionally. We were instructed to bend our knees and shift our weight from leg to leg to attempt to forestall fainting. The whole issue is ridiculous.

    Here's a short list of presidents who should have been impeached for getting sick while in office and several prominent people who are unqualified to be president for getting sick. It doesn't include the millions of people who  get pneumonia every year. From Digby.

    The fact is that politicians get sick. Indeed,  presidents get sick. George W. Bush fainted in the white house just sitting on a couch eating pretzels. His father famously caught the flu while he was travelling, grew faint and vomited on the Prime Minister of Japan‘s lap. Ronald Reagan was shot and had cancerous polyps removed from his colon while in office. Lyndon Johnson had gall bladder surgery and proudly showed his scar to the press corps. President Eisenhower had a heart attack and emergency surgery for a bowel obstruction. There’s no need to reiterate all of Franklin Roosevelt’s health problems, but it’s pretty clear that the right wing and the press today would find him unfit for office.

    And the list of macho men who’ve fainted in public is a lot longer than you might think. This is just a sample:

    General Petraeus faints at congressional hearing.

    Major General James Martin fainting at a press conference back in February

    Attorney General Michael Mukasy  fainting in the middle of a speech in 2008.

     GE CEO Jim Campbell at a Joe Biden speech in 2010.

     

     

     

    Silvio Berlosconi, Italy’s prime minister at the time, collapsing in 2006.

    Bill Daley passing out at his Commerce Secretary appointment ceremony in 1996

    A 23-year-old soccer player collapsing during a live interview

    A soldier fainting waiting for dignitaries to arrive

    To put it simply, if you discard the inane right-wing conspiracy theories about Clinton’s alleged brain damage and Parkinson’s disease, you’ll realize that mundane ailments like coughing, fainting, pneumonia, flu etc are common among politicians and other leaders because they’re common among humans. 


    by ocean-kat on Mon, 09/12/2016 - 4:22pm

    Wikileaks helps out as always, now instead of reporters they're amateur doctors too. Guess investigative journalism wasn't enough - speculative journalism is the future.

    Nice of them to credit her with a personality.


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 09/12/2016 - 5:02pm

    I think it was OGD who had a post about shaking nuts from the tree

    Trump exposed

    Wikileaks

    Dr. Ben Carson

    Dr. Drew Pinsky

    Lou Holtz

    ​and a host of others that we thought had some grasp on reality..


    by rmrd0000 on Mon, 09/12/2016 - 5:55pm

    rmrd0000 ... You mean this one? laugh

     

    ~OGD~

     

     

     


    by oldenGoldenDecoy on Mon, 09/12/2016 - 6:37pm

    Thx

    That is the one 

    The nutz keep fallin'


    by rmrd0000 on Mon, 09/12/2016 - 7:23pm

    Peracles... You do know...

    Plumbers and Proctologists don't chew their fingernails

    ~OGD~


    by oldenGoldenDecoy on Mon, 09/12/2016 - 6:30pm

    How can we really be sure?

     

     

     


    by ocean-kat on Mon, 09/12/2016 - 6:42pm

    1) shit flows downhill

    2) don't chew your nails

    3) payday's on Friday

    Yep, I do know, #2


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 09/13/2016 - 1:49am

    Mike Pence refuses to say that David Duke is deplorable 

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/09/12/mike-pence-whether-david-duke-depl...

    Think of the rejection Obama had to give regarding Jeremiah Wright. The Trump campaign is treated with kid gloves.


    by rmrd0000 on Mon, 09/12/2016 - 7:37pm

    If it was GOP convention week they could wear Deplorable bandaids.


    by NCD on Mon, 09/12/2016 - 8:03pm

    David Duke is pleased that Pence did not find him deplorable

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/david-duke-good-to-see-mike-pen...


    by rmrd0000 on Mon, 09/12/2016 - 11:07pm

    Ya know, I expect the right wing to go full metal jackoff on any Clinton! Scandal!! Du!!! Jour!!!!! but it has been incredibly -- no, wait; after the primaries, it ain't hardly no surprise; no, it's been depressingly predictable and nonetheless disgusting and infuriating to see certain segments -- oh, go ahead; call them what they are, ravening packs -- of True Progressives(tm) at certain blogs fling themselves joyously upon the wretched carcass of this latest Clinton! Scandal!! and, with crocodile tears trickling down over their bared fangy grins, rend and rip and shred:  She's got Parkinson's! - that was no fainting spell, she's got brain damage! - hey, what about multiple sclerosis? - it can't be pneumonia, I know people who wound up in the hospital with peenoomia and they looked really sick! - it's something dark and dire and deadly and they're covering it up! - she'll have to drop out! (hey, can Bernie step in and Save The Day, huh huh huh???) - the campaign is incompetent again, they should have rushed right out on Friday and Told The World! (whereupon the same said pack would have bitched about mishandling that timing) - oh waily waily waily we're DOOOOOOOMED!!!  And it's All Clinton's Fault!!!

     

    And not one word of concern, of hopes that, whatever it is, she gets better.  Fercryinoutloud, even His Donaldness managed to mouth that sort of platitude in between bouts of trashing her.  Nope, the Left Blogistan contingent of those afflicted with Clinton Derangement Syndrome, the Clinton delenda est crew, are too busy building the bonfire for the witch to even pretend to care.  At. ALL.

     

    AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    *pant gasp gulp..... sigh...............*

     

    Okay, yes, you're right, I do feel better for getting that off my chest, thanks.

     

    But I'm still Wicked. Pissed.


    by Janicket on Tue, 09/13/2016 - 1:38am

    Nice rant - more, please...


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 09/13/2016 - 1:49am

    LOL -- steam's all blown off for now; got to stoke the boiler again -- which won't take long if I go back to certain blogs and read the comments.  Can't say what I'm really feeling there or I'd probably get booted, and since the bloggers involved are themselves sane and sensible (their comment threads, however and alas, being overrun by cranks, Purity Brigadiers and the odd, very odd, outright loon) I'd rather not let it all hang out at the scene of the crimes against reason and electoral pragmatism.  So I daresay I shall be able in futuro to oblige ye, kind sir; and of course there's always His Trumpitude &Co. to throw gasoline on the fire.


    by Janicket on Tue, 09/13/2016 - 2:05am

    There's no reason to worry about releasing her medical history.  If she's been as truthful and candid to her doctor as she has been to everyone else, her doctor's diagnosis will be as valid as yours or mine.


    by Lurker on Tue, 09/13/2016 - 4:06am

    Oh, are we going to have a "really stupid flippant comment" contest? I'm afraid you've won already. no, in the real world, doctors actually measure things and run tests, especially for patients who've had a brain clot and any other serious issues. I'm sure you think from Donald Trump's "I'll write the letter for my pseudo-physician specialist to sign while waiting in my limo" that everyone's medic just relies on patients telling all their ailments and then they're done, but in real life medicine is largely more complex than that.

    And as pointed out numerous times on the internets if you didn't have your eyes closed, Hillary's public lies and "pants-on-fire" statements are significantly fewer than most of her political cohorts, whether Republican or Democrat - she's the one who actually has real plans and lengthy position papers that one can critique if not too busy discussing email servers, while the others just say vapid politicalese things like "we'll do whatever it takes to make America strong again" or "I'll make them pay us to do what we want", and that goes as their "plan", though Trump sets a special standard for telling pants-on-fire level lies 4 out of 5 times that he opens his mouth. But really, let's just focus on how awful Hillary is and forget the useless context or actual record. We've got reputations to try to damage, and the steady slinging of mud may one day take down a whole wall or cliff, or at least make some feel like they're accomplishing something in the process.


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 09/13/2016 - 7:28am

    At the end of the day, Trump voters are supporting the guy who attracts bigots and white supremacists. The GOP does not have the moral fiber to address this issue. Polling supports what Hillary said about Trump supporters.Ta-Nehisi Coates observes that the white grievance that fuels Trump's campaign is documented in multiple polls. We just are not supposed to talk about it in public.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/they-are-all-breitba...

    David Duke loves Donald Trump. Trump led the racist birther movement. Neither Trump or his Vice Presidential candidate find David Duke deplorable.

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/09/12/racist-radio-host-david-duke-pra...

    At the end of the day, the truth is that a sizeable number of white voters will cast a vote for a white supremacist. The rest is just noise.


    by rmrd0000 on Tue, 09/13/2016 - 9:45am

    Spot ON.


    by Janicket on Tue, 09/13/2016 - 9:18am

    We are talking about a subset of people with bigoted opinions and we are supposed to pretend that they don't exist.We pretend that there is a war.on Christmas despite the Obama's lighting the National Christmas tree. We allow women who think their insurance companies pay for birth control to be called sluts. We pretend that transgender people are assaulting people in public restrooms, We allow a snipe hunt for voter fraud that requires federal courts to point out the obvious racism underlying the voter suppression. We sanction the religious bias of a government worker who does not want to issue marriage licenses to same sex couples. We do all this nonsense and the bigots still aren't satisfied. The bigots will never be satisfied. We need to shine a light on them and make them publicly explain their bigotry and why it should be tolerated. Martin Luther King Jr. understood the danger of pretending that bigotry and white supremacy was acceptable. We are called to speak out. No person of good conscience can vote for Donald Trump.


    by rmrd0000 on Tue, 09/13/2016 - 10:00am

    So you're saying that it doesn't matter what Hillary tells her doctors, since they can find out the truth using objective tests - have I got that right?

    Maybe we should set up a panel of independent doctors who would periodically test the urine of presidential candidates, like they do with Olympic athletes.  That way we would know what drugs they're taking.


    by Lurker on Tue, 09/13/2016 - 5:04pm

    I'm saying Donald Trump's tax returns should be made public. It matters more than what Hillary says to her doctor.

    He doesn't release them because it would prove he is perhaps the biggest grifter and scam artist ever nominated by a major Party for the office of President.


    by NCD on Tue, 09/13/2016 - 5:26pm

    When it comes to health records, the orange bigot's campaign says that Trump has a right to privacy.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/kellyanne-conway-trump-health-righ...


    by rmrd0000 on Tue, 09/13/2016 - 9:02pm

    Here is the angry white male Governor of Kentucky suggest that there may have to be bloodshed to survive a Hillary Clinton Presidency. He then tried to walk back his comments. Hillary knew who she was addressing.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/matt-bevin-physical-violence_us_57d7...


    by rmrd0000 on Tue, 09/13/2016 - 11:04am

    Colin Powell called Trump a "national disgrace". He also declared that the entire birther movement was racist.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/colin-powell-calls-trump-nation...


    by rmrd0000 on Tue, 09/13/2016 - 11:13pm