MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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he merely proposed lowering the existing Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 60 . Biden’s response to those young people demanding a better health policy is to offer a policy that won’t help any of them for decades. And to understand just how pitifully stingy this “concession” is, remember that dozens of Democratic senators, including plenty of “moderates”, have already endorsed lowering the Medicare eligibility age to 55. You can find an op-ed in Forbes (not exactly the Democratic Socialists of America newsletter) suggesting 50 would be a better age. Bill Clinton proposed 55 in 1998, and Hillary Clinton advocated 55 in 2016. So Biden’s big concession to the left is actually more conservative than a centrist Democratic proposal!
Comments
Biden will reach out.
The problem is that the Sanders youth vote didn't turn out. Biden's election may depend on the OK Boomer generation.
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 3:39pm
Yeah, this article explained exactly what reaching out means to Biden. There's a long history of Blue Dog democrats reaching out like that.
by ocean-kat on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 5:32pm
There will be outreach, but the voters chose Biden's policies over Bernie's. I think an acceptable middle ground will be reached.We will find out if Medicare for All gained momentum.
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 6:09pm
In terms of coalitions, Sanders and Biden have what the other does not. The typical primary shake out of whose platform wins is still underway even though Sander has conceded.
It is the closest to Parliamentary politics that has happened in the U.S. since I am not sure when. It is time for historians to step up and represent.
by moat on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 5:43pm
Since 2016? When Bernie got to help write the Democratic Platform, 5 members on the committee, and then they had a huffy and went off to North Dakota to protest a pipeline until Trump got elected (supposedly)? Yes, Parliament's work like that, which is why UK's stuck with Boris Johnson after Labour got stuck with Corbyn, though reality may have smacked some adult into Boris recently, we'll see. (Brexit II: the Revisiting?)
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 6:07pm
Well, I didn't mean to suggest it was an advance over some other really great way to move forward.
At this point, I am having trouble distinguishing the pot from the fire.
by moat on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 6:16pm
I just meant 4 years ain't a long time to remember... especially since Hillary was told to just suck it up and expect nothing in 2008 and be grateful for it. (that I suppose was back when some still thought Obama a super-left-wing progressive) - so the 2016 approach was kind of new. But "wont get fooled again" either.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 6:26pm
Fair enough.
If there is a benefit to the present bargaining, it will be along the lines of having to bring cash.
Credit is not what it used to be.
by moat on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 6:40pm
Cash ain't what it used to be either - a few trillion just flew out the window, and that Modern Monetary Theory of "just print money to cure what ails u" will get it's full workout.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 6:50pm
It's beyond me about people who are still being fixated on Bernie's Medicare for all plan or Biden's compromise or even say Warren's plan...they aren't keeping up with the news and reality, it's clueless. Our hospital system is basically nationalizing itself as they dither with yesterday's arguments, borrowing and returning equipment like ventilators across state lines.. Doctors and nurses are having life-changing epiphanies. By October everything with our medical system will be upside down, no one will recognize it. All the organizations in it are rapidly changing, if it stays privatized many corporations will disappear others take their place. Much care is rapidly becoming virtual because of isolation, no one wants to see regular patients in office etc. Pharmacies are all moving to delivery.
Especially for people who are already on Medicare, they are being forced to do video appts. for regular stuff, like it or not if they want to see a doctor, and they will get used to it. This means much less travel to/from doctor's appts. This means more things in each home like blood pressure machines.
Not to mention lotsa people who may have liked their health insurance they got with their job just lost their job and their health insurance!
So so absurd to arguing about particulars of a plan after coronavirus vaccine at this point.
Medicare and Medicaid of today, they will change enormously already way before the election.
by artappraiser on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 6:53pm
Word.
ETA: in my culture, you say that when you have reached the end of something.
by moat on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 7:02pm
I don't like Sanders and I didn't like Medicare for all. That's not what the article was about, it's not even what the brief excerpt is about.The point of the article imo or at least my point in posting it here is that Biden's so called reaching out to progressives is less than what many centrists and moderates have already pushed for. He's not reaching out to find a middle ground. He's pulling back from what the moderates already agreed to.
by ocean-kat on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 7:22pm
He is not reaching out. Point taken.
The whole process has become opaque.
He needs other people and ideas.
by moat on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 7:25pm
Oh yes I was not addressing the story, fully admit I was addressing the headline more than the story. And yours is an important topic. Sorry if you thought it hijacking.
The title caught my eye as I have been thinking about the revolution in the health care system every day and it interests me a lot. there's still a lot of purity Medicare-for-All Sanderistas going on absurdly as if nothing had changed, I see them all the time on twitter. They look extra shallow and myopic and crazed fixated now, old Medicare-4-All arguments is all they care about, talk about tuition or minimum income doesn't interest them, is like their core principle, what they live for, is Bernie's medicare for all and they do it 24/7, no time for the news.
Don't forget that everything health care is the biggest part of our economy, though. What's happening to it, damn important to figure out.
by artappraiser on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 7:58pm
AA hits the critical point, how will out healthcare 'system' survive this pandemic? Exiting the pandemic successfully is the primary and sole focus for now and certainly next year.
How about the healthcare workers endurance and health? Hundreds have been infected and dozens have died. Routine procedures that bring in funding have been delayed indefinitely, when will these services get back to normal? Tens of thousands of healthcare jobs are being lost today due to funding shortfalls, which McConnell and Trump refuse to provide aid for.
The Guardian:
Republicans are blocking the latest Democrat relief measure to give financial relief to medical practices and hospitals, and also to states which have lost billions in tax receipts, states bear some of Medicaid costs, and costs for virus tests/public health measures. Plus if the Robert's Court allows Trump to kill DACA, as the Republicans have been trying to do for for a decade, 45,000 DACA doctors and healthcare workers will lose their legal status, their jobs and may be deported.
Purity tests for Biden on what age to lower Medicare to is absurd at this point, like rearranging deck chairs on the USS Healthcare Titanic.
by NCD on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 7:37pm
you mention one important one I missed: the effect of all the delayed procedures and care. Everything from heart attack aftercare to my poorly healing elbow wound.
In NYC, first you think: oh no one will see me anyways if I even call they will say shuddup you're lucky you're alive. And you get mad. But then you think: hey, you don't want to go to get care as you might get coronavirus, you''ll just live with it for a while longer. Heh.
This is happening worldwide! Think of that!
Was on my mind as I just spend two hours trying to download the shit for telemedicine with Mt. Sinai specialist about other problems, a followup. I despised doing it, lots of glitches don't know if it will work and am going to hate the experience for sure. It was an outpatient appt (building right next to.death hospital) for around March 20 and they called and cancelled that and rescheduled for this week Monday and she sent a message Friday that she is changing it again to Thurs. and it is going to be virtual and I need to download all this shit and be ready and she will see me then on my computer or cell phone (I wanna tell her and Mt. Sinai: the App store says your app is not compatible with Androids, only I-phones. Good luck with the 85-yr. olds with flip phones !)
by artappraiser on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 8:20pm
The future may be more telemedicine since many office visits are not for critical illness. Since elective procedures are being put on hold. The future may also be stricter insurance requirements for elective procedures. Corporate owned medicine will be the norm.
Telemedicine
Fewer admissions for elective procedures
Corporation owned medicine
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/opinion/coronavirus-hospitals.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
Edit to add:
To prevent the corporate takeover
I'm thinking telemedicine may be here to stay.
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 11:15pm
I think everyone here knows China Joe doesn't have a chance and will join the progressive Marxist agenda in the dustbin of history.
My little Blue State may have made that certain by driving the first nail in the coffin for mail in vote harvesting. The Left's scheme here was to convince our Supreme Court because of the Wuhan crisis to intervene and mandate mail in voting.
Thanks to a timely amicus brief from our local True The Vote the judges rejected the lefty scheme and other states will have good reasons to also reject this ploy.
by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 1:02am
it's past absurd to come here and post such agitprop robotic crap at this point in the game. For what., you think you're going to convince some lurker at this site that Biden is a marxist? Boggles the mind what you're trying to do here and why you even bother.
P.S. As regards back on another thread where you were opining like a real person would: you were wrong about South Dakota
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 1:12am
and here's more news you can use, Anonymous: heckuva job protecting commerce...
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 4:52am
and just for you-I wouldn't do this for anyone else:
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 4:54am
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 9:56am
The US and Italy announced their travel bans the same day Jan 31. Are restrictions the same thing as bans?
by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 9:26pm
Everyone was depending on China and the WHO for accurate information on January 24 but sensing that that information wasn't the truth Trump slammed the door on China flights seven days later.
by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 8:00pm
Trump said the virus would be gone by April
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-coronavirus-gone-april_n_5e7b6886c5b6b7d8095959c2
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 9:38pm
Trump repeatedly praised China
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/15/trump-china-coronavirus-188736
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 10:05pm
Stopping flights does nothing without massive testing to detect and eliminate community transmission.
Trump timeline:
1/18 - Trump plays golf
1/19 - Trump plays golf
1/21 - First coronavirus case is detected in Seattle.
1/22 - Trump makes his first comments about the coronavirus, saying he is not concerned about a pandemic. “No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. … It’s going to be just fine.”
1/24 - Trump tweets - "China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!"
1/28 - Trump has campaign rally
1/29 - Trump's Chief Economic Trade Advisor Navarro writes memo to Trump: " there is a real risk of the coronavirus evolving into a full-blown pandemic, imperiling the lives of millions of Americans.”
1/30 - Trump has campaign rally
1/30 - Trump says of the threat - “We think it’s going to have a very good ending for it. So that I can assure you.”
1/30 - Trump tweet - "Working closely with China and others on Coronavirus outbreak. Only 5 people in U.S., all in good recovery."
2/1 - Trump plays golf
2/5: Trump’s impeachment trial ends with his acquittal by Republican in the Senate.
2/5 - Senator Chris Murphy (CT) tweet - "Just left the Administration briefing on Coronavirus. Bottom line: they aren't taking this seriously enough. Notably, no request for ANY emergency funding, which is a big mistake. Local health systems need supplies, training, screening staff etc. And they need it now."
2/10: Trump says, “I think the virus is going to be — it’s going to be fine.”
2/10 -Trump has campaign rally
2/15 - Trump plays golf
2/19 - Trump has campaign rally
2/19: Trump addressing group of governors says: “I think it’s going to work out fine. I think when we get into April, in the warmer weather, that has a very negative effect on that and that type of a virus. So let’s see what happens, but I think it’s going to work out fine.”
2/20 - Trump has campaign rally
2/21 - Trump has campaign rally
2/23: Another Navarro memo warns of an “increasing probability of a full-blown COVID-19 pandemic that could infect as many as 100 million Americans, with a loss of life of as many as 1-2 million souls.”
2/24: Trump tweet - "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!"
2/25 - Trump news conference, New Delhi - “You may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country. We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are – in all cases, I have not heard anything other.”
2/25 - Trump tweet - "CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus, including the very early closing of our borders to certain areas of the world.."
2/25 - Trump Director Economic Council - Larry Kudlow - “We have contained this, I won’t say airtight, but it’s pretty close to airtight.”
2/26 - Trump White House briefing - “So we’re at the low level. As they get better, we take them off the list, so that we’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we’ve had very good luck.”
2/26 - Trump tweet - "Low Ratings Fake News MSDNC (Comcast) & @CNN are doing everything possible to make the Coronavirus look as bad as possible, including panicking markets, if possible. Likewise their incompetent Do Nothing Democrat comrades are all talk, no action. USA in great shape!"
2/26 - Trump White House Task Force Briefing Room - "And we have a total of 15 cases, many of which, or most — within a day, I will tell you most of whom are fully recovered. I think that’s, really, a pretty impressive mark." : "And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done."
2/28 - Trump holds rally, SC - "They tried the impeachment hoax. ... They tried anything. ... And this is their new hoax. ... One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear..."
2/29 - Trump at CPAC Wash. DC - “And I’ve gotten to know these professionals. They’re incredible. And everything is under control. I mean, they’re very, very cool. They’ve done it, and they’ve done it well. Everything is really under control.”
3/2 - Trump campaign rally, NC, - "My job is to protect the health of American patients and Americans first and that's what we're doing. Washington Democrats are trying to politicize the coronavirus, denigrating the noble work of our public health professionals, but honestly, not so much anymore...."
3/4 - Trump at White House with airline CEO's - “We have a very small number of people in this country [infected]. We have a big country. The biggest impact we had was when we took the 40-plus people [from a cruise ship]. … We brought them back. We immediately quarantined them. But you add that to the numbers. But if you don’t add that to the numbers, we’re talking about very small numbers in the United States.”
3/4 - Trump interview Fox News - “Well, I think the 3.4% is really a false number.” — Trump in an interview on Fox News, referring to the percentage of diagnosed COVID-19 patients worldwide who had died, as reported by the World Health Organization.
3/7 - Trump responding to reporters, on cases in Wash. DC - “No, I’m not concerned at all. No, we’ve done a great job with it.”
3/7 - Trump plays golf
3/8 - Trump plays golf
3/9 - Trump tweet - “So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!”
3/10: After meeting with Republican senators Trump says: “And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”
3/11: Trump says, “I think we’re going to get through it very well.”
3/11 - NBA suspends season. WHO declared the global outbreak a pandemic.
3/16: Asked about his repeated comments saying the situation was “under control,” he says: “If you’re talking about the virus, no, that’s not under control for any place in the world. … I was talking about what we’re doing is under control, but I’m not talking about the virus.”
3/16 - President Trump told reporters Monday that he would rate his administration’s response to the coronavirus a 10 on a scale of 1 to 10. “I’d rate it a 10,” Trump said at a White House press briefing Monday.
3/29 - Trump, speaking at White House Rose Garden - “And so, if we could hold that down, as we’re saying, to 100,000 – it’s a horrible number, maybe even less, but to 100,000, so we have between 100 [thousand] and 200,000 – we altogether have done a very good job.”
by NCD on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 10:08pm
What is it that triggers these snowflake zombies when Trump takes a few hours to get some exercise in the sunlight and fresh ait or he attends campaign rallies after consulting with the science guy Dr. Fauci ?
I'm not surprised this peckish whiny complaint list doesn't mention the 24/7 leadership and management efforts by Trump and the many people he has tasked with marshaling every productive sector of the USA together to defeat this plague.
You and your ilk are not part of any productive sector..
by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 1:48pm
Trump spent a lot of time during Obama's presidency trashing him every time he went golfing and the zombies for Trump seemed to be triggered by that. Shouldn't Trump be held to the same standards he held Obama to?
by ocean-kat on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 2:00pm
24x7 jacking off you mean. I've never seen a dude stare into the mirror and talk about himself with such love. Are these types of people your heroes, Nonny? Do you have a background story to grace us with? I mean, it's 2020, ok to have a man-crush, even on yourself. It's just that most of us thought actually doing presidential duties (not running shadow hit squads of extralegal partisan quacks) would take up most of his time. Instead the dude's addicted to Twitter, Fox, maybe Adderall, and most of all himself. 30,000 Americans just died, and Donny's response is he's beating expectations plus "not responsible". The soft bigotry of low expectations for sure.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 2:23pm
You buried the lede"...
"getting some exercise"???
AS IF. This is a guy who can't walk half a fuckin' block, he rides the golf cart UP ONTO THE GREEN!
by jollyroger on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 3:14pm
He spends most of his time staring at himself and talking purty to himself. I don't need to get dragged into a golf carts discussion - he's an onanistic egotistic peabrain who spends most of any conversation looking for ways he can flatter himself, and most of his day staring at TV looking at his ratings and any mentions to protest or get excited about. Many people expected him to do his job, but the closest he'll come is continuing to bastardize even the few things he actually does, rather than tweet.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 3:35pm
The poster child for all the terrible things that would happen to a child if they played too many games on the internet. How the hell will they ever get a real job?
by moat on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 3:40pm
I work in a "productive sector." Have done so for forty years. Nobody given important jobs in my industry says shit like:
by moat on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 3:29pm
oh that one really gets me, it usually comes at the end of a bunch of "on the one hand, on the other hand" babble With both hands being nonsense. Very similar to how a lot of little kids imitate grownup talk.
(Saw part of the NJ gov press conference today. He spend a significant amount of time extending sympathy to victims and selecting a few to commemorate in detail, chokes up some. A reminder of exactly the kind of thing a president is supposed to do, Like say, Geo. Bush after 9/11. Not rocket science to say a few words. Trump hasn't yet to my knowledge, not a single word, actually never talking directly to American citizens at all., much less the actual victims. Never played that character, only did the 'you're fired' one? So cold.)
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 3:52pm
hey, just comes to mind, when has he ever even referred to like "the American people" in the third person? He doesn't talk directly to them, and he doesn't talk about them, either. And his rallies are performance pieces looking for dittoes. Even Rush Limbaugh talks directly to callers once in a great while!
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 3:56pm
The brand marketing was based upon the idea that a person who survived the cage matches of capital competition would be better suited for the job than people who express feelings. When one reviews the rallies before the election, the language of expressing care is mocked as a liberal marketing device. Many of the supporters heard that and stopped shopping. This is the cruise missile we need now to blow up all those people who caused our suffering.
Proposing a change of course at this time after investing so much in a specific strategy has to be weighed carefully. Trump gambled with people's lives in the expectation that results would be different than they are. He continues to roll the bones upon that expectation. Maybe he is correct on some level. If his bets are losers then he is toast anyway. From his perspective, it is like all those other times he had to try something that could work or not for him.
by moat on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 4:54pm
It's good to hear you're not a professional politician and had a productive life.
That said you seem to have left that behind and are now spewing worthless garbage just like a PP.
by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 5:47pm
What is one to do with such a statement?
Nothing I have said is challenged by it.
by moat on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 5:51pm
You're supposed to get angry that he insulted you. It's his way of derailing the conversation.
by ocean-kat on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 7:09pm
Oh. I am a construction worker in NYC. We insult each other to make sure we can still do it. You have to get really good at it to annoy other people.
It is a merit system.
by moat on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 7:27pm
i wish there was a like button here
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 8:14pm
The goal is to infect, not persuade.
Tokyo Rose.
by moat on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 7:05am
Art, this is my science project, free continuing education. I watch you apply stimuli to the test subjects and observe their responses. I occasionally add some counter-stimuli asd see what that produces.Studing groupthink and ideological possession in real time and over time is fascinating but also painful.
I also have the before and after Trump timelines to compare. The before with a delusional cult of personality and the after with a psycho cult of anti-personality.
As Sioux Falls goes so goes America? I don't know about SD but we had a new outbreak of Wuhan on our Indian Pueblos reportedly because they ignored the WH guidelines.
by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:57pm
All the stuff you said would happen in the future keeps not happening. Most of your accounts of the past are lies, easily dispensed with by simply remembering events or a bit or research.
by moat on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 4:06pm
Wrong place, there's no groupthink here, we disagree often. And we've seen and read your unreality narratives often many times, we recognize it before you torture us with it for the umpteenth time
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 4:18pm
Think this may fit here:
by EmmaZahn on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:13pm
An image of the tweet displayed in preview, why not here?
by EmmaZahn on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:14pm
That happens a lot, the second time you view it here, it doesn't show the image. It is maybe something like a loading issue with how fast your internet is? In my experience often an image comes back if you refresh. Is like the image is the part that loads last on this site, an order of code thing
Also I recall oceankat once saying he sometimes couldn't see any of my tweets at all, I think it might be related, though maybe it's his internet or how his browser loads this site
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:56pm
Plain text editor may work better. It may be the <p> signs rich test puts in.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 4:08pm
here's the thing: I see it now coming back to the thread! I didn't see it the last time. I think it's because I clicked on the date link earlier and it then was fully loaded into my browser memory for this page.
Same principle for me with real busy pages like at CNN, with lots of videos and ads. When they are that busy, it's so much work for my browser that sometimes it crashes. I suspect it's because I refuse to clean cookies and history, I like having the history and memory if I want to find something I looked at.
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 4:15pm
you did it right though. And people can always see the image on twitter by clicking on the date on the tweet. I was thinking just now that it often happens more often when it's on a long thread?
(For others: you just just click on the embed icon, which is to the right of the link icon, and a box open and you paste the code from the tweet in it. Only one glitch: You get trouble,it won't take, when there are special symbols in the code of tweet that Dag's comment system doesn't support, like a flag or animal emoji, but if you delete those from the code before you hit enter, it will take and they will magically appear in the image anyways.)
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 4:10pm
Thanks for the info. I can see the image now. I'll have more patience next time. :)
by EmmaZahn on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 4:30pm
It was my browser or perhaps just some option in the browser. Firefox won't show any tweets on this site but chrome will. I try to avoid patronizing google as much as I can so I use firefox most of the time and chrome just for gmail and dagblog.
by ocean-kat on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 4:29pm
I will take that vote.
I feel like quoting Flavius now but will restrain myself.
by moat on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 4:19pm
I think this is a flawed analysis. While I despise Biden and think he was the worst candidate standing on that stage, not including the idiot Gabbard and the new age flake Williamson, the DNC had a trivial influence on his selection.
There was a core group of mostly old people who liked Biden. There was a group that liked him for no other reason than he was Obama's Vp. There were many who didn't like Biden but hated Trump that were afraid to take a chance he might be re-elected and decided Biden was the least risky candidate.
It was the voters that picked Biden for what ever their reasons and blaming the DNC misses that point.
by ocean-kat on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 4:51pm
Yes. Taken too far, the idea that people would have voted differently if not for X is an invitation to a kind of disenfranchisement. The horse race gets too far in front of the horses racing.
by moat on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 5:19pm