MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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The once-per-decade U.S. Census will ask about people's citizenship status in 2020, the Commerce Department announced late Monday. The move, which came at the request of the Justice Department, reinstates a controversial question that hadn't been used on all surveys for decades.
“After a thorough review of the legal, program, and policy considerations, as well as numerous discussions with the Census Bureau leadership and interested stakeholders,” Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross wrote, “I have determined that reinstatement of a citizenship question on the 2020 decennial census is necessary to provide complete and accurate data in response to the DOJ request.”
And this could significantly increase Republican advantages for two reasons:
- It might dissuade noncitizens from participating in the census, thereby diluting the political power of the (mostly urban and Democratic) areas they come from.
- Even without that, it would hand Republicans a new tool in redrawing districts even more in their favor.
In recent decades, citizenship was not asked of everyone in the census, not since 1950.
The citizenship question was included on the census through 1950, and in 2000 it was included in the long form distributed to one in every six recipients. Since 2005, it has been included on the American Community Survey...
If Republicans can game the census with citizenship questions, which may dissuade an entire family of citizens from participating in it if there is one non-citizen in the home.......can legal citizens counter-game it?
Say you are a Democrat in a district and state that goes heavy Republican, should you decline to participate in the census?
It would mean the district would have to be larger to have enough people in it, perhaps including more non-Republican voters.
It would mean a lower population count and perhaps less Congressmen from your red state, and less federal funding for programs related to population. That could be a disincentive for Republicans running the state to game the census system as a power promoting partisan enterprise.
Of course, Republicans living in heavy Democratic districts ot states could do the same thing.
Is there a way to fulfill the functions fo the census without using it as an every 10 year partisan weapon?
If millions of Americans refused to participate, could Congress create a non-partisan census count, and rules on using the data fairly, would they be forced to cut out the politics?
Comments
The census has become more and more of a what? over the years, to the point where most folks don't really consider it even necessary - much less crucial. Sure, we political junkies get the point, but does anyone else really care?
Until it becomes compulsory (practically impossible) or there's some way to actually make ignoring it detrimental the number of households participating will continue to decline. Republicans are counting on it, and it's a good bet.
by barefooted on Tue, 03/27/2018 - 8:48pm
The census leads to redistricting which is why the Dem wipeout in 2010 allowed major nationwide gerrymandering.
Republicans are "counting" on an undercount of immigrants, legal or illegal, in cities to reduce the number of congress persons from those areas (they are allocated by total census population - not # voters).
Households with multi-generation families may not fill out the forms even though most are legal.
NPR said ICE can look at the Census data city block by block, and although they cannot use personal names and addresses, with the new Trump question "are you legal citizen" it could show hotspot neighborhoods of non-citizens for ICE to concentrate resources.
by NCD on Tue, 03/27/2018 - 9:09pm
Vox.com has done a link round-up on this @ 8pm
Vox Sentences: There’s some serious US Census drama
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/27/2018 - 9:52pm
Far from a done deal: Census Question on Citizenship Spurs States to Join in Lawsuit
By MICHAEL WINES and EMILY BAUMGAERTNER @ NYTimes 54 minutes ago
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/27/2018 - 10:08pm
Thanks for the links.
Everything Republicans do is to stay in power by any chicanery, disenfranchisement, closing polling stations, sending bogus election date notices, using Russian money/trolls etc etc
If the citizenship question is on the form I may not fill it out at all.
NPR said the administration came out with this 6 days before a deadline with no hearings or public comments. The hope mentioned, npr, is the lack of a vetting process may cause courts to knock it down.
by NCD on Tue, 03/27/2018 - 11:24pm
What if we all just say we're not citizens?
by Michael Maiello on Wed, 03/28/2018 - 9:27am
The Republicans would say your neighborhood is full of moochers and rapists. ICE might start doing sweeps.
by NCD on Wed, 03/28/2018 - 12:44pm
Shame on you all! I'm reporting this conspiracy to Fox News immediately: DERANGED LIBERAL MEDIA PLOTS CENSUS FRAUD!
by Michael Wolraich on Wed, 03/28/2018 - 10:56am
I'm plotting a census Freud and plan to answer as my mother.
by Michael Maiello on Wed, 03/28/2018 - 10:58am
Mike, I did have a Norwegian grandpa who arrived on Ellis Island in 1909.
I guess, legally.
I had another grandpa who, evidently, illegally came down from Canada about the same time.
WHO IS LEGAL AFTER ALL?
NCD has pointed out some probs with regard to citizenry?
WHERE IS YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
And does it pass the authenticity test?
by Richard Day on Wed, 03/28/2018 - 12:19pm
Wear your grandad's reindeer antlers when you go out and ICE won't ask for that birth certificate.
by NCD on Wed, 03/28/2018 - 12:47pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
by Richard Day on Wed, 03/28/2018 - 1:04pm