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    It’s Time to Boycott Tavis,West, and All Black-on-Black Racists

    Beneath the Spin * Eric L. Wattree

     

    It’s Time to Boycott Tavis,West, and All Black-on-Black Racists
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    Like most black people I used to like and admire both Tavis Smiley and Cornel West a great deal, but after they made public fools of themselves on the very day that Barack Obama announced his intention to run for president, I decided to do a little research into them instead of simply buying into the hype. Not long thereafter it started to become clear that their images were merely facades that hid highly ambitious, self-serving, and untrustworthy clowns of the worst kind, and that assessment is not based merely upon my opinion. The most cursory review of the facts will easily bear that out.
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    I found that Tavis is the most prolific corporate shill in the Black community, and he's closely involved with some of the most exploitive corporations of working class people in the country. So I began to ask myself, how can his so-called concern for the poor and middle class coexist with his association with Walmart, Nationwide Insurance, and other corporate manipulators of the poor and middle class?
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    HERE’S A MESSAGE FROM A PRO-BUSINESS FRIEND OF MINE REGARDING NATIONWIDE INSURANCE.
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    “One thing that caught my eye was the picture of Nationwide because it's personal. Sharon's sister was blind-sided by a drunk, uninsured motorist. Donna had been paying uninsured motorist insurance though Nationwide for years. Donna was barely conscious in the hospital when a Nationwide rep showed up with a document he told Donna to sign because it would pay the ambulance fees (about $4-5,000). Donna had broken arms, broken ribs and other major injuries. Donna barely scribbled her initials and the guy left. Several weeks later, when she got out of the hospital, her bill was in the tens of thousands of dollars. Required Physical would add thousands more, all within her policy limits. Nationwide refused to pay, citing Donna's initials on what she was told was the ambulance and ER bills. Donna was unable to have physical therapy and had to file bankruptcy. Like Sharon, Donna is an American Indian (Cherokee), lives in the country and knew/knows nothing about lawyers. By the time we found out, Nationwide's weird statute of limitations had run out and they were legally "off-the-hook". Donna is crippled and debilitated to this day.
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    “Nationwide IS NOT on your side. They are scumbags to be avoided AT ALL COSTS! You have my permission to use this if you wish to help your community. Tom”
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    I also began to ask myself how Tavis could possibly claim to be concerned about the plight of Black people, and then seek to pad his pocket by promoting R. Kelly, a man who became more famous for his alleged appearance in a graphic underground video of himself molesting a 14 year-old Black child, than for his musical ability? Sure, Kelly beat the case, but the video is still out there, and it is what it is. http://newsone.com/384692/tavis-smiley-draws-child-rape-criticism-for-publishing-r-kellys-book/
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    And then there's Cornel West, a man who's literally made a career of spewing the depth of his love for his people to anyone who will listen, for a fee. With West, it's always brother this, or my dear brother that, yet, as badly as we need educators in the Black community, why is it that he has never taught at a school that more than 1% of Black people could afford to attend in his entire career? If he loves his people so much, why isn't he teaching third grade in the hood, or at the very least, instructing young people at one of the many Historically Black Colleges or Universities? Isn't teaching poor and middle-class students prestigious enough for him? Doesn't he love his people enough to want to see them well educated? I guess not, because while his incessantly running mouth says one thing, his behavior consistently says another. Over the years it has become abundantly clear that he would much rather preach us a sermon than live us one.

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    While it seems that West can't inconvenience himself to the point of busting a grape when it comes to helping to educate Black children, he wants us to believe that he loves the Black community so much that he was forced to join forces with Ralph Nader and help to elect George Bush in the 2000 election. Bush won by 537 votes. The Nader-West coalition peel off 97,488 votes in Florida alone. But, of course, West only hepled to usher in the Bush-Cheney era, and the misery that it brought to the Black community, in the interest of political chastity, you understand.
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    But as horrific as that episode was, for me, its hypocrisy is more than rivaled by West's mere association with Tavis Smiley. In this latest coalition, West reminds me of a guy running down the street ranting about fascism after just having lunch with Mussolini. But many Black people can't seem to see that, because they've been so bedazzled by the hype over Cornel's resume that even though he doesn't make a bit of sense most of the time, they assume that he must be saying something so profound that their limited education is causing them to miss the point. But what point could possibly be missing when a man advocates that you become so disgusted with the Bogeyman that you should go out and elect the Devil? Dumb is dumb, even if it comes from Princeton.
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    So my distaste for these two individuals run far, far deeper than their criticism of President Obama. The fact is, I’ve written several articles criticizing the president myself - as I do with every president - but I make sure that my criticisms are constructive, issue-specific, and I ALWAYS make sure that I afford the president all of the respect that he’s due. But the thrust of Tavis and West’s criticisms of President Obama are neither issue-specific, nor constructive. In fact, in the case of Cornel West, his criticisms are not only less than constructive, but they hover around a level of immaturity approaching The Dozens. So for the most part, Tavis and West are simply running around saying, "This guy ain’t no good and he can’t be trusted," under the guise of being concerned about poverty. But if you listen closely, after you get past all of the misleading rhetoric and disinformation, you'll find that the bottom line is, they’re campaigning for the Republicans as a cure for poverty, and you don't get no dummer than that. So we're dealing with one of two things here - either they're two turncoats, or they're so dumb that they shouldn't be allowed to hold a microphone.
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    Thus, their mantra about "attacking the messagener" notwithstanding, I’d like to hereby assure both, Tavis and West, and the world, that my raging distaste for them has absolutely nothing to do with their criticizing Obama. My distaste for these two individuals is a direct result of what I perceive as a gaping flaw in their character. So I am far less concerned about WHAT they’re saying, than I am about WHY they’re saying it. Because it's the "WHY" that's so toxic to the Black community.
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    I’ve been around long enough to recognize that as African Americas, we’re products of the very same racist environment as White people. As a result, many of us are just as racist toward other Black people as any Hillbilly, and that’s exactly what I see in Tavis Smiley and Cornel West. I've never forgotten the very valuable lessons that I learned from the FBI's "Cointelpro" operation launched during the sixties to destroy the civil rights movement.
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    During that time the FBI scattered turncoats, snitches, and provocateurs all through the Black community to intice us to destroy ourselves. I was just a kid, but I learned something I'll never forget during that period - always keep your eye on the ones who are always looking, acting, and talking the most militant. That's why Cornel West immediately got my attention. I also learned that a good rule of thumb when dealing with such people is to ignore what they say, and simply watch what they do. In that regard, what are Tavis and West doing at this very moment? As we speak, they're campaigning in the battleground states against Obama, and for the Republican Party.
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    So it has long since become clear to me that these two are not the least bit concern about poverty. They’re simply using the term "poverty"as a convenient metaphor to misdirect the people. You see, once their criticism of President Obama backfired on them in Black community, Tavis and West had to find a way to spread their anti-Obama message without generating so much heat. So they simply started using the word "poverty" as a metaphor for "Obama," much like the Republicans use the word "welfare" as a metaphor for "Black people." So now, instead of saying, "Don't vote for Obama, they just use the word "poverty" to IMPLY that Obama’s presidency is inadequate. It’s an old psychological technique right out of the Republican playbook.
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    You see, Tavis and West’s motives are exactly the same as Herman Cain’s, but they’re coming from a different direction. At least Herman Cain was honest enough to come at us as a Republican, but Tavis and West are so arrogant that they think the Black community is stupid, so they’re trying to use reverse psychology. Where Herman Cain’s message was, "Black people need to start voting Republican so the two parties will have to fight for their vote," Tavis and West are playing us stupid in a different way. They’re using militant rhetoric in order to get us to cut our own throats. They're trying to make unsophisticated voters so disgusted with Obama that they don't vote - and as every sophisticated voter knows, every Democrat who doesn't vote translates into a vote for the Republicans. So like I said, it's Cointelpro, revisited - the use of Trojan Horses to divide and conquer.
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    Tavis and West are currently wrapping themselves in the legacy of Malcolm, Martin, and every other historic Black figure they can think of in order to send the message that Obama’s not being Black enough. Yet, in doing so, they know full well that it’s impossible for President Obama to become more strident in pursuit of exclusively Black issues, because then, the Republicans would use it as a weapon to tear away his White support - and he can’t get anything done without White support. Just imagine what the Black response would be if a White President said, "I’ve got to put things on hold for a moment so I can do something for White people." Black people would go berserk, but essentially, that’s exactly what Tavis and West are demanding that Obama do - but again, just like the Republicans - they're making their demand in race related buzz words.
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    So Tavis and West have President Obama in a position where if he continues to be the president of ALL the people, as he should be, they’re going to divide his Black support; but if he caters to their call for him to pay special attention to the Black community, he’s going to have two problems - congress is going to dig in, so he won’t be able to get anything passed, and beyond that, it’s going to divide his White support. So instead of doing everything they can to help improve the condition of the poor and middle class (Black and White), Tavis and West are playing silly, self-serving little games to divide the people, help the Republicans, and promote their own meanspirited agenda.
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    So why are Tavis and West playing these games when they know it’s hurting both the country, and the administration of the first Black President of the United States?
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    It’s simple - for spite. As I mentioned previously, since Black people are a product of the very same racist environment as White people, many Black people have attitudes that are just as arrogant, condescending, and racist toward other Blacks as any White racist, and this is clearly the case with Tavis and West. They think that they're above us, and that we're undereducated and politically unsophisticated idiots that they can play to their advantage.
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    You see, contrary to what they would have you believe, these two don’t love Black people - they think they OWN us. They don’t see us as people. They see us as a commodity to be manipulated, bartered and sold. That explains why Tavis and West are so upset with President Obama. When he went around them to get our vote, as far as they're concerned he stole something from them.
     

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    If you go back and review the video of Cornel West ranting over the fact that Obama decided to hold a press conference to announce his intent to run for President of the United States instead of attending Tavis Smiley’s "State of the Black Union" broadcast, you’ll notice a clear sense of entitlement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXj3_pjTTwg&feature=player_embedded. West takes the position that when Obama failed to come on Tavis's show, he turned his back on the entire Black community. I'd never heard such balloon-headed arrogance in my life! When was Tavis Smiley appointed the Grand Vizier of the Black community?
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    Tavis and West was clearly under the impression that they OWNED the Black community, and when Sen. Obama went around them to announce his intent to run for president instead of coming on the show and asking, "Mother may I?," it constituted a slight to their authority, and a huge failure in protocol on Obama’s part. They obviously believed that the proper thing for Obama to do was to come on the show and ask for their permission to BORROW their Black votes. Who the hell do they think they are? Even now, they're trying to force Obama to meet with them. We've got to bring these two egomaniacs down to Earth.
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    This bears repeating. Tavis and West hate Obama because in their tremendous arrogance they feel like he stole something from them - us, Black voters. They felt that they had us in their pocket like a commodity to be bought and sold, and they were right. They were, and they or, making money off of us. Large corporations, like Walmart, would come to Tavis Smiley and ask, "How much would you charge to deliver the Black community to us?" And he would tell them. So while Tavis and West speak of "loving their people," that's not exactly what it is. They don't see us as their loved ones - they see us as their whoes, and the evidence of that is glaring.
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    DO YOU BELIEVE THAT NATIONWIDE IS ON YOUR SIDE?
    DO YOU BELIEVE THAT TAVIS DOES?
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    Tavis’ Solicitation To Corporate Sponsors (like Nationwide)
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    "Tavis Smiley builds brand identification and strengthens your corporate image. Sponsors benefit from the "HALO EFFECT" of being associated with PBS and NPR and its mission to make a meaningful contribution to our community. Nearly 85% of consumers believe such HIGHER-PURPOSE, CAUSE-RELATED marketing creates a positive image for sponsors. And almost two-thirds of PBS viewers and NPR listeners are MORE LIKELY TO PURCHASE the product or service of a PBS or NPR underwriter."
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    As for West, the man is greedy, immature, and petty. He complained because "The guy who carried my bags into the hotel" got tickets to the inauguration and he didn't. Wouldn't you think that a person who fights for equality would love the symbolism of a worker getting into the inauguration of the President of the United States? But not Cornel, he felt slighted and insulted - he felt that he was BETTER than the HELP. And when Dr. Melissa Harris-Perry got the job with MSNBC. Wouldn't you think a man who fought for equality would love seeing another intelligent Black female voice getting national exposure? But not Cornel. He made a public statement, calling her a liar and a fraud. How did that promote the interest of the black community? And is that the behavior of an enlightened intellectual? I don't think so.
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    We’ve got to bring this kind of petty, self-serving, Black-on-Black racism to an end. That’s why it’s time to boycott Tavis Smiley, Cornel West, and any corporation, product, or media outlet that’s associated with them. After over 400 years of manipulation, it’s time to send one message loud and clear - THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS NOT FOR SALE! And we're not going to tolerate ANYONE thinking that they can walk around with us in their pocket.
     

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    Eric L. Wattree
    Http://wattree.blogspot.com
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    Citizens Against Reckless Middle-Class (CARMA

    Comments

    I saw your post on ThyBlackman.com. One response in opposition to your post was that West had gotten arrested fighting NYPD's "Stop and Frisk" while the Obama administration had done nothing.

    I reminded him that the DOJ had suggested changes to the program and were meeting with the Mayor because nothing had changed. I think because Obama and Holder don't publicize the moves they are making in the Black community, many can be hoodwinked by West and Smiley that nothing is being done.


    That is so true, RM.

     

    In addition, Cornel West looks forward to being arrested. That's publicity.  As I pointed out when he was arrested during the "Occupy" demonstrations, if they hadn't arrested him he would have filed a discrimination suit - "You arrested all these White folks; why you want to discriminate against me!!?"


    I'm boycotting MLK too - he talked about education, but never taught at an inner-city school. Hypocrite.

    And I realize a President would never say, "I've got to put things on hold because there's 16% unemployment among white people" - that would be catering to a minority, and he would never propose a jobs program, nor can he be seen as taking extraordinary steps for gay rights or Hispanic immigrants or pay attention to Israel and against Iran for his Jewish constituency or visit & spend time in speeches supporting the military or addressing continued support for Medicare for existing seniors or paying attention to other special interests. 

    Though he might send Michelle out to teach a new dance to whites - that seems to be safe messaging to cross ethnic and gender lines.


    Sigh, Obama got a discrimination settlement for Black farmers that had been lingering for decades. His DOJ pushed back on voter suppression.He fought to hold on to Pell grants. The DOJ Is beginning to move against "Stop and Frisk" in NYC. These things have significant impact in the Black community.

    The jobs issue is chronic and currently exacerbated by government job layoffs. If you have an idea how to get the jobs bill through the Republicans in Congress,we'd love to hear it. The President did send a large jobs bill to Congress. A bill to jump start small businesses was signed into law earlier this year

    Given the support the President has among actual Latinos, they might disagree that the President has done nothing of value.


    So you say he can work on issues that help blacks - so why not a black jobs program, as blacks have been disproportionally hurt? What exactly are you disagreeing with?

    And while Pell grants are nice, would you agree that increasing jobs has a more direct effect on current state of the union? What is your thought about lack of a jobs bill back when Dems had both houses of Congress? Are you disappointed, accepting, or that's water-under-the-dam, can't talk about it/look forward not backwards?

    If Dems take the House back in November, what should be highest priority?

    (BTW, who said "the President has done nothing of value" - me? or you're referring to points in the article I didn't discuss? I only addressed 2, most others I didn't have comment)


    Obama went with saving the auto industry and healthcare initially. Do you think the job market would be better if the auto industry tanked? If the auto industry collapsed your argument would be that we lost even more jobs and were in worse economic shape. We we're losing private sector jobs and now we are gaining private sector jobs.

    If the Democrats regain power, jobs will be the focus. Blacks, Hispanics and Whites will benefit.


    I think the overall point is that Blacks can get the benefits of the jobs bill without the baggage of a Black President openly stating that it is a Black program. Obama has Black support because Blacks understand the political games he has to play in a "post-racial" America. Blacks and Hispanics understand Obama's actions, you don't.


    The DREAM Act was overwhelmingly to help Hispanics, no?

    If civilian black unemployment is over 16% compared to 8.5%, Obama or any other president can damn well say this is a shame and travesty and focus on it. 

    Senate Republicans are trying to pass a jobs bill for vets because unemployment is 11%. So how come the discrepancy?

    I am intrigued with the idea of using the tax code focused on net asset aggregation, which could help poorer black families along with other lesser-distressed groups. Maybe that'd be an easier sell than a jobs program?

    However, as long as black job applicants keep telling stories like these, where they're qualified but passed up for arbitrary reason, asset aggregation just slows the sink into the abyss. 

    But I still can't understand replacing the Audacity of Hope or MLK's "if not now, when?" with a meek "we can't openly state it's a Black program". Hell yes, you/we can. Just base the arguments on economic justice, not identity politics. That's what the DREAM Act is. That should be part of the Democratic platform. Not "hey, we made it to the Master's house, gotta be quite so he doesn't know we're here". I don't mean being obnoxious - it's simply being reasonable.

    Organize, lobby, educate - mortgage theft came down disproportionally on black families - the key asset that was to fund the black middle class dream. That's been stolen. The government jobs that blacks had have been stolen/slashed, with needed services just cut. How come that's not a campaign issue? Democratic whites will cross over to vote Republican? Hispanics will complain? Obama will be weakened by making a strong stand on jobs in America? I don't understand.


    Your Guardian examples seem to be cases of discrimination.


    Why yes indeed - isn't that why black unemployment sky-rockets when jobs are scarce? First to fire, last to hire.


    The Black unemployment has always skyrocketed. Even at baseline it is twice that of Whites. I guess the bigger question is where all the outrage has been prior to the age of Obama and the wingnut and bigoted GOP. Now you are upset.

    Hopefully the Democrats will gain enough seats to get legislation through Congress that will have more impact. You will not hear loud rants from the Black community prior to the election. I doubt that you understand the reasons because you're too busy handing out advice.

     


    No, Black unemployment hasn't always skyrocketed, as the graph below shows. It's worse now than any period since the recession around 1993. Yes, it was caused by Bush. No, it hasn't gotten much better under Obama. And he's taking no special actions to deal with it.

    I understand reasons why no complaints.

    You've yet to tell me what "advice" I'm handing out, aside from "do something, don't just stand there". I fully expect, unlike Dan, that there will be no action, no complaint after the election either. We'll just be in another part of the wait-and-see cycle, where they'll be munching on another wish sandwich. With Medicare & Social Security cuts coming up next term, I don't expect joy in Mudville. Less safety net, less opportunity. Better than Romney though.


    If nothing gets done, you still have your role as a critic to fall back on.


    Thanks, but had enough of playing Cassandra.

    Perhaps Othello or Lady Macbeth.


    Wasn't Othello the guy that who accepted rumors as proof that his wife was cheating? Didn't he commit suicide after killing his wife based on the rumor? I think I'll reject the critic's suggestion.


    False question.

    Auto bailouts were started under Bush and they were loans, not grants. Overall <$30 billion while TARP was around $870 billion. And $1 trillion or more behind the scenes by the Fed to the US and abroad. Of course much of the bailout was to prop up the financial arms of GM & Chrysler, not the manufacturing arms. 100 cents on the dollar for Cerberos, can't let investors lose out, unlike workers taking benefits cuts.

    So it wasn't a question of auto bailouts or jobs. ACA didn't pass until 2010, and most costs were pushed off until later. So there was room to do more on jobs. But glad to see you think jobs will be a focus. Frankly, I as a white guy would be happy to see some focus on black communities. There's a saying, the chain is only as strong as its weakest link, and if black families can't make it despite best efforts, if they got hurt disproportionally by the economic crash/Wall Street theft of 2008, we're missing out on a basic tenet of the American Dream. (which I think is one of our few worthwhile goals, presuming it still is one).


    You seem to be more upset about the situation than many Black and Hispanic voters. If you ask both groups about their outlook for the future, they are positive. In fact, they are more positive than many Whites. We have a tradition of surviving in times of strife. Black and Hispanic college enrollment is increasing.

    The difference is that you stay focused on what is being done, while minority group are focusing on making progress. But you continue to fight the power ( on blogs) my brother.


    Great. Hope you counted how many of the black unemployed have college degrees. Reminds me of Blimpy - "I'd gladly pay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today". A job in the hand is worth 2 in the bush if you consider accumulated wealth and lost opportunity.

    Hispanics got a big wet kiss with the DREAM Act a few months ago, sealing the deal, and of course the president is still African-American and fulfilling some aspirations of the black community, so I can imagine some optimism. But you phrase things in terms of "voters". Romney's been a disaster as a candidate, especially since July, but I'm not talking about the election per se - I am talking about Black & Hispanic progress. But foreclosed homes and lost jobs don't tell of progress. Would Romney make it better? Hell no. So the election isn't the question. 

    But in any case, you're on the road to small change, and seem to be happy with it. Enjoy.


    Well while some of us blog, some of us take action. Some of us work with children to improve their educational skills and self- esteem. Some of us work on health issues. Some of us employ and train people.

    And some of us just complain and give advice.


    Some of us live elsewhere.


    Maybe those of us who don't live elsewhere have a better grasp of the situation. It's easier to be a film or music critic, than it is to create film and music or live the life of the artist.


    Odd, I imagine I know more about the life of an artist. Nevertheless, a film critic knows when a film's 1 hour 37 minutes long. A political critic knows when black unemployment is 14.1% and the racial gap is widening. How blacks feel about this issue, well, you likely have more experience than me. There's lots of political opinion across the spectrum that makes no sense to me. But it's hard to pretend a horror film's a love story, no matter how you spin the promos. Even a detached critic knows that much.


    Well you keep up the good fight here online.


    Well, you keep making excuses online and do whatever good you do off. At least it sounds like you have a job.


    Why don't you carry out your conversation with West and Smiley and ask them why their protests have been so pathetic.

    Heck, it was Rev Al who got the LGBT community to join a protest against "Stop and Frisk". Coalitions are being built while West and Smiley do photo ops. West and Smiley were MIA in voter suppression.

    West and Smiley were MIA in the Trayvon Martin case. Rev Al's participation got the judicial ball rolling.

     

     


    Maybe West & Smiley have a different job than Rev. Al.

    Al's pushing on local communities - West & Smiley seem to be applying pressure to the top.


    Not to be a broken record, but voter suppression is an issue that effects all levels of engagement. West and Smiley were nowhere tobe seen.


    Didn't do it your way = must be bad.

    Didn't Obama & Holder's DoJ have it covered?


    PS - didn't you say above that nothing needed to be done with Stop & Frisk, as Obama & Holder were negotiating? I.e. it was bad for West to be protesting & arrested, but still good for Rev. Al to protest?


    Sharpton's protest served as a means of getting Black groups and LGBT activists focused on the same issue. The NAACP was also involved . The organization had recently come out in support of Gay marriage. It was an alliance.It was something more than West's photo ops.

    Obviously, West and Smiley have free speech rights to do photo ops.


    Meant BET link, not Newsmax.


    One can argue that it isn't so much that blacks have been disproportionally hurt in the attempt to find work, but that those at the lower end of the income spectrum that have been hit the hardest.  Of course, given the demographics of this country, this means that much of the black communities will experience an above average unemployment rate.  But the poor white folks and the poor Asian folks and so on also encounter the same dynamic. 

    In other words there isn't some distinct facet existing within the black communities that are at the lower income spectrum that is keeping them from getting employment.  There are issues of racism, etc. obviously, but the primary barriers to finding employment (education and skills training, ability to interview and apply for openings, etc) beyond just having existing employment opportunities is across the board the same regardless of the individuals' ethnicity and race.


    No. Blacks were more in government, and those jobs got slashed.

    Blacks were heavily invested in housing and got hurt hardest by mortgage theft.

    Blacks were hurt hardest by Michigan & other auto meltdowns, plus had pensions & medical benefits whacked.

    Blacks suffer more racism when trying to find jobs in a tight economy.

    So again, no. They don't suffer the same dynamics. Look at historical unemployment for one. 


    I suggest reading Andy Kroll's article on the 60-year gap between black and white unemployment. 

    The unemployment lines run through history like a pair of train tracks. Since the 1940s, the jobless rate for blacks in America has held remarkably, if grimly, steady at twice the rate for whites. The question of why has vexed and divided economists, historians, and sociologists for nearly as long.

    The fact that it is currently twice the rate of whites is not particular to this particular economic crisis, or indicating there is some new trend in hiring of blacks by American companies.  If the unemployment rate gets down to 5%, it will probably be 10%, 11% or 12% for the black community - if the decades long trend continues.  It is reflective of systemic and cultural issues (including racism and the more benign hiring those one feels more comfortable with) (including incarceration rates as Kroll points out).

     


    Poland lost twice as much of its Jewish population as it lost Gypsy population during WWII.

    100% vs. 50%. I suspect that comparison of percentages aren't the right way to look at this equation, unless you're satisfied with the non-answer of "long trends".


    The point is when has unemployment been at its lowest for the black community is at the same time it was at the lowest for all Americans.  People in the 1990s suddenly lost their racism (nor did the gap lessen significantly during this time), nor did they suddenly become racist in the last few years. 

    While some targetted federal programs might be able to help some local communities, there is little on a national scale that the feds can do (esp given the Republican controlled House, hell the Senate Repubs even blocked a jobs program for returning Veterans) to impact the black communities on a national scale. 

    Republicans abuse the phrase "a rising tide lifts all ships," but that does not eliminate the truth that does exist in this sentiment.  A jobs training program for everybody in a particular community helps blacks, whites, and everyone else.  If a community that is predominantly black seeks assistance for unemployment and they receive it because their community is predominantly poor, they receive the same assistance as if they received it because they were predominantly black and poor.


    And actually a better analogy is that America is hit with a nasty airborne contagion.  Because of this, the greater the population density an individual lives in, the greater the chance of infection.  The outcome is that those who live in urban areas have a greater incidence rate than those in rural areas, even though all other things being equal (which they never are) those in rural and urban areas are equally susceptible to catching the infection.

    The CDC develops a plan of action to provide the medicine to eradicate the contagion.  One can claim that the urban areas are more devastated by the outbreak, and thus needs a special program to ensure delivery of the medication.  But this would be silly.  One develops one program that takes into effect lines of transportation and distribution in each area whether rural, urban, suburban, high alpine or costal lowlands.  Of course, the program would recognize areas of greater quantities of medicine and personnel, and therefore would not send equal amounts to a rural area as it would to an urban area. 


    Brilliant, the CDC - AIDS affects primarily gays and intravenous drug users, so let's take an approach that makes every heterosexual kid afraid of sex, rather than finding solutions to deal with the high transmission risks. Nancy "just say no" Reagan must have been proud.

    If we have recurring hurricane threats in Florida, we don't have to prepare Oregon.

    If we have recurring super high unemployment for blacks, we don't need more job training for whites - we need to figure out the causes for that entrenched difference and fix it.

    Hey, earth has a global warming problem - let's apply it to the Moon and Mars as well....


    This is such a lame response on so many levels.  Let's first start with the analogy of your last sentence. The moon and Mars do not have a global warming problem, and even if they were the problem would not be related to human activity on earth, and therefore no action taken on human activity would impact their problem. 

    But as the graphs prove, as overall employment rates go up or down so do black unemployment rate - with the corresponding gap.  So unlike the pathetic moon and Mars analogy, addressing the overall unemployment issue does impact the problem you want to address.

    Now let's go to your second paragraph - having live in Oregon I can say hurricanes was not among our worry.  But we did have tsunami scare, and forest fires and earthquakes were part of the reality in the Northwest.  The same disaster preparation and response, along with developing effective early warning systems found in Florida's effort to lessen the impact of a hurricane can be and should be translated to Oregon, and from Oregon to Florida. 

    As someone who is actively involved in developing job training programs and other initiatives to move people out of poverty (and keep those on the edge from falling into poverty), it is far easier said than done to just go into a real community and both reduce poverty / increase employment and deal with entrenched cultural barriers that perpetuate the racial gap in the unemployment arena. 

    One just has to look at the high school graduation rates and one knows that some federal program implemented by the feds is going to somehow correct the problem.  In other words these are entrenched, complex problems that will take years and years if not decades to effectively correct on a national level.  The reality is that there plenty of local, state and federal programs and grants working to tackle this, but it is at the grassroots level, on a neighborhood by neighborhood basis, through partnerships by government, schools, nonprofits, local businesses, and community volunteers that will turn this assistance into real results.

    Now to your first paragraph.  Since I used an example talking about a disease that is transferred through the air, I don't why you pulled AIDS into the discussion.  I'm not going to say that the CDC has never made a mistake or couldn't have done a better job.  But your comment "so let's take an approach that makes every heterosexual kid afraid of sex," indicates a level of ignorance that surprises me. It indicates that heterosexual kids shouldn't be concerned about unprotected sex. 

    Now to heart of the matter.

    If we have recurring super high unemployment for blacks, we don't need more job training for whites - we need to figure out the causes for that entrenched difference and fix it.

    Look at your graph.  There was a time toward the end of the 20th century and just before the latest economic meltdown when it wasn't "super high" - although the gap was still there.  All the evidence points to the fact that if we improve the situation overall, the black communities will also enjoy an improvement in their rate. 

    So then we have to look at the gap.  Part of this racism, in all the various kinds that exist.  So what can the federal government, and specifically Obama, do to effectively address this in a way that is not already in place?

    There is also a factor of incarceration rates and high school graduation rates.  With the former there is programs that deal with prisoner re-entry programs (such as those with Weed and Seed), but Congress is cutting the funding for those programs, so again what is Obama to do at this moment?  And yes programs like Weed and Seed help whites as well as blacks. 

    Regarding the latter, it has to do more with early childhood education programs that the evidence points to having the best impact - ultimately having a child involved in a birth to graduation program of support.  In other words it will be over a decade before the results start to really show up. 

    The birth to graduation rates deal in part with the culture of poverty - which has nothing do with race, although some claim it reinforces racist attitudes.  I've discussed this on dag before and won't go into it here, but I suggest you check out the work Geoffrey Canada and the Harlem Children's Zone are doing to get a better understanding on what kind of work is needed to make a dent on that gap. (i would add Obama has highlighted the work of the HCZ on numerous occassions).


    I would also point out that your graph indicates that trend.  After a recession, the rate starts to go down - just at the same time that it is for the rest of the country, and likewise, it rises during the recession, along with the rest of the country. 

    Kroll points out those times that gap narrowed:

    Tracing black unemployment in America since World War II, there are two moments when, briefly, the gap between black and white joblessness narrowed ever so slightly -- in the 1940s and again in the late 1960s and early 1970s. For example in 1970, unemployment was at 5.8% for blacks and 3.3% for whites, a sizeable gap but significantly better than what followed in the Reagan era. Those are moments worth revisiting, if only to understand what began to go right.

    According to University of Chicago professors William Sites and Virginia Parks, those periods were marked by a flurry of civil rights and anti-discrimination activity on the federal level. A series of actions ranging from the creation of the Fair Employment Practice Committee in 1941 to the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (which mandated the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission), the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and the Equal Employment Opportunity Act of 1972, write Sites and Parks, had "dramatic impacts on employment discrimination."

    But then adds:

    Today, in terrible times, with the possibility of social legislation off the table in Washington, the question remains: What, if anything, can be done to close the jobless gap between blacks and whites? When I asked Devah Pager, she called this the "million-dollar question." This form of discrimination, she pointed out, is especially difficult to deal with. As she noted in 2005, many employers who discriminate don't even realize they're doing so; they're just going with "gut feelings." "It's not that these employers have decided that they are not going to hire workers from a particular group," Pager told me.

    To put blacks back to work, lawmakers should invest federal money directly in job creation, especially for black workers. Other avenues for putting people back to work, like a payroll tax credit won't do the trick....

    But how likely is that at a moment when, in a Washington gripped by paralysis, any discussion of spending in Washington begins and ends at how much to cut? The painful reality of permanent crisis for black workers is here to stay.


    Peracles,

    I get so bored with these kind of lame responses. I'm not here to defend President Obama, however:

    Obama Initiatives

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    - Spur Job Creation: "In addition, to help those most affected by the recession, the Budget will extend emergency assistance to seniors and families with children, Unemployment Insurance benefits, COBRA tax credits, and relief to states and localities to prevent layoffs."

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    - Reforming the Job Training System: "The Budget calls for reform of the Workforce Investment Act (WIA), which supports almost 3,000 One-Stop Career Centers nationwide and a range of other services. With $6 billion for WIA at DOL—and an additional $4 billion in the Department of Education—the Budget calls for reforms to improve WIA." Strengthen Anti-Discrimination Enforcement: "To strengthen civil rights enforcement against racial, ethnic, sexual orientation, religious, and gender discrimination, the Budget includes an 11 percent increase in funding to the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division. This investment will help the Division handle implementation of a historic new hate crimes law. The Budget also provides an $18 million, or 5 percent increase, for the Equal Opportunity Employment Commission (EEOC), which is responsible for enforcing federal laws that make it illegal to discriminate against a job applicant or an employee. This increased investment will allow for more staff to reduce the backlog of private sector charges."

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    - Support Historically Black Colleges and Universities: "The Budget proposes $642 million, an increase of $30 million over the 2010 level, to support Minority Serving Institutions (MSIs), including Historically Black Colleges and Universities. In addition to this discretionary funding increase for MSIs, the Administration supports legislation passed by the House of Representatives and pending in the Senate that would provide $2.55 billion in mandatory funding to MSIs over 10 years."
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    - Help Families Struggling with Child Care Costs: "The Budget will nearly double the Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit for middle-class families making under $85,000 a year by increasing their credit rate from 20 percent to 35 percent of child care expenses. Nearly all eligible families making under $115,000 a year would see a larger credit. The Budget also provides critical support for young children and their families by building on historic increases provided in ARRA. The Budget provides an additional $989 million for Head Start and Early Head Start to continue to serve 64,000 additional children and families funded in ARRA."
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    - Reform Elementary and Secondary School Funding: "The Budget supports the Administration’s new vision for the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA) … The Budget provides a $3 billion increase in funding for K-12 education programs authorized in the ESEA, including $900 million for School Turnaround Grants, and the Administration will request up to $1 billion in additional funding if Congress successfully completes ESEA reauthorization."
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    - Increase Pell Grants: "The Recovery Act and 2009 appropriations bill increased the maximum Pell Grant by more than $600 for a total award of $5,350. The Budget proposes to make that increase permanent and put them on a path to grow faster than inflation every year, increasing the maximum grant by $1,000, expanding eligibility, and nearly doubling the total amount of Pell grants since the President took office."

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    - Help Relieve Student Loan Debt: "To help graduates overburdened with student loan debt, the Administration will strengthen income-based repayment plans for student loans by reducing monthly payments and shortening the repayment period so that overburdened borrowers will pay only 10 percent of their discretionary income in loan repayments and can have their remaining debt forgiven after 20 years. Those in public service careers will have their debt forgiven after 10 years. The Budget also expands low-cost Perkins student loans."
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    - Prevent Hunger and Improve Nutrition: "The President’s Budget provides $8.1 billion for discretionary nutrition program supports, which is a $400 million increase over the 2010 enacted level. Funding supports 10 million participants in the WIC program, which is critical to the health of pregnant women, new mothers, and their infants. The Budget also supports a strong Child Nutrition and WIC reauthorization package that will ensure that school children have access to healthy meals and to help fulfill the President’s pledge to end childhood hunger. The President continues to support the nutrition provisions incorporated in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA)."
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    - Revitalize Distressed Urban Neighborhoods: "The Budget includes $250 million for HUD’s Choice Neighborhoods program, which will target neighborhoods anchored by distressed public or assisted housing with physical and social revitalization grounded in promising, measurable, and evidence-based strategies."
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    - Increase Funding for the Housing Choice Voucher Program: "The President’s Budget requests $19.6 billion for the Housing Choice Voucher program to help more than two million extremely low income families with rental assistance to live in decent housing in neighborhoods of their choice. The Budget continues funding for all existing mainstream vouchers and provides flexibility to support new vouchers that were leased and $85 million in special purpose vouchers for homeless families with children, families at risk of homelessness, and persons with disabilities."
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    - Preserve 1.3 Million Affordable Rental Units through Project-Based Rental Assistance Program: "The President’s Budget provides $9.4 billion for the Project-Based Rental Assistance program to preserve approximately 1.3 million affordable rental units through increased funding for contracts with private owners of multifamily properties. This critical investment will help low-income households to obtain or retain decent, safe and sanitary housing. In addition, the Administration requests $350 million to fund the first phase of this multi-year initiative to regionalize the Housing Choice Voucher program and convert Public Housing to project-based vouchers."
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    - Promote Affordable Homeownership and Protect Families from Mortgage Fraud: "The Budget requests $88 million for HUD to support homeownership and foreclosure prevention through Housing Counseling and $20 million to combat mortgage fraud. In addition, the Budget requests $250 million for the Neighborhood Reinvestment Corporation’s (NRC) grant and training programs. Of the $250 million, $113 million is requested for foreclosure prevention activities, a $48 million increase (74 percent) over 2010."

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    - Fight Gang Violence and Violent Crime: "The Budget provides $112 million for place-based, evidence supported, initiatives to combat violence in local communities, including $25 million for the Community-Based Violence Prevention Initiatives that aim to reduce gun and other violence among youth gangs in cities and towns across the country, and $37 million for the Attorney General’s Children Exposed to Violence Initiative, which targets the youth most affected by violence and most susceptible to propagating it as they grow up."
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    - Expand Prisoner Re-entry Programs: "The Budget provides $144 million for Department Justice prisoner re-entry programs, including an additional $100 million for the Office of Justice Programs to administer grant programs authorized by the Second Chance Act and $30 million for residential substance abuse treatment programs in State and local prisons and jails. In addition, the Budget provides $98 million for Department of Labor programs that provide employment-centered services to adult and youth ex-offenders and at-risk youth.."
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    - Fully Fund the Community Development Block Grant Program: "The Budget provides $4.4 billion for the Community Development Fund, including $3.99 billion for the Community Development Block Grant Formula Program (CDBG), and $150 million for the creation of a Catalytic Investment Competition Grants program. The new Catalytic Competition Grants program uses the authorities of CDBG, but will provide capital to bring innovative economic development projects to scale to make a measurable impact."
     

     


     

     

     

     


    Nice - but did he

    1) have a positive effect on black employment

    2) stop illegal mortgage foreclosure and get people compensated?

    3) stop counter-productive marijuana busts that hurt blacks more than others?

    etc., etc., etc.?

    There's a pot of money for everything - what were the actual results? Do you even know, or it's just a litany for you to recite?

    Like the first one: Spur Job Creation - huh? no, that's not what it does - it's an increase of joblessness benefits, labeled as "job creation". Quite an Orwellian term.

    Preventing job discrimination? Well, any evidence it does, as black unemployment skyrocketed after 2008? But throw a bit of money at it, job done, constituents satisfied.

    Meanwhile, cost for Afghanistan War skyrocketed to $9 billion per month in 2010, $10 billion a month throughout 2011, and now has dipped to $6 billion a month. Veterans Disability benefits will jump from $46 billion this year to $57 billion next - they were $15 billion in 2000. So goes our "smart war" as we prepare to run. Did putting money towards this goal help it?


    Thanks, Eric. Very thought provoking post. 


    Thank you, Oxy Mora.


    I'm looking forward to this election being over.  Among other healthy outcomes, I think that once the black community is freed from its felt need to muster an extreme degree of unity and loyalty behind the nation's first black president, we'll begin to see much more ferment, dissent and vibrant activism.  Except for Obama, black leaders have never been more invisible than they are now.  Obama is a political giant who seems to swallow up every other black progressive idea or figure in his shadow.

    The relative silence about catastrophic unemployment among a community that is a central pillar of the progressive community is one reason the political response to unemployment has been so disturbingly lame.  I'm not saying blacks are wrong to suppress the dissatisfaction that must be felt.  People have to pick their fights, and having a black president is progress in itself for the black community, a phenomenon which is no doubt helping to undermine racism and stereotypes, and open up opportunity for blacks in America.   But I'll be happy when the reelection of Barack Obama is no longer Job One in the black community, and people begin to step out of Obama's shadow during his second term and liberate themselves to play the dissatisfied, dissenting role that is needed.


    Dan,

    The next election has absolutely nothing to do with Obama's race; it's about the people, and keeping corporate fascists out of office. Black people were also loyal to Bill Clinton. So the assumption that Black people are only loyal to Obama because he's Black, is rooted in either projection, or racist and gross underestimation of Black intelligence. Black people are no different that any other group of people with common sense - we support the person who we think is acting in our best interest.  At one point during the primaries Hillary Clinton polled 37% over Barack Obama in the Black community.


    That's not what I'm talking about.  Blacks might be consistently loyal Democrats, but they have not been consistently silent on major economic problems afflicting the black community.


    In my community they are not silent on a local grassroots level, but you would never know how they are going to vote come November.  Their energy is focused on working on local initiatives and programs, doing outreach into neighborhoods, and developing a community dialogue.

    The unfortunate facet of the web is that the discourse tends to value national movements over local ones, as if it isn't happening nationally, nothing is happening.   \

    One of the keys to improving the economic conditions in the long run of the various black communities (see Harlem Children's Zone) across the countries rests on improving the education achievement.  This is something that does not happen overnight.  The results will take years to reflect the effort (unlike focusing on monthly unemployment rates).  The reality is, given the way education systems are structured, there is little the Federal government can do to significantly impact how local school districts implement their "curriculum."  It is up to each local community to ensure every child is ready to succeed when they enter school and then are supported with the necessary resources all along the way to graduation.


    For a man who claims intelligence, you're sure packing a lot of hate these days, Eric. As I've followed your trajectory down over these past months, let me just say that it seems to me that you crossed the line of sensible conversation somewhere a ways back, and are now pretty much in a zone of pure hate. Which is a shame.

    -- Just to take an obvious example, when you criticize West because he has only ever taught at places only 1% of black citizens could afford to attend, I assume you're including Harvard in that. Which is odd, because not only did many reasonably liberal-democratic fellows attend that very institution, but so too did President Obama. I'm not sure why you think it would be inappropriate for him to be taught by a black man at Harvard.

    -- Or your stuff about how West et al "think" that they "own" blacks, as commodities, who can be bought, bartered and sold. I donno about you, but I find this to be fairly inflammatory stuff, when used as a reference to blacks. I've said it before - if slavery was the atrocity most people would argue it was, then to make too easy extrapolations to daily differences in opinions in 2012 is to cross a line, degrading the word, and disrespecting a lot of people. Much like attacking a Jew by saying they are someone who wishes to liquidate his own people. 

    -- Or your quote from someone lodging a complaint against a particular insurance company. Now, personally, I can't stand insurance companies. But the idea that somehow it's right to use the named complaint of a single person - with all its horror, with all its bias, and with all its completely unknown connection to any facts - is just idiocy. 

    In fact, your whole piece shows not just signs of increasing fury (which I understand fairly well), but of a man who has come off the rails entirely. It's not enough to attack West and Smiley in a blog, you have to do it dozens of times. And normal argument isn't enough, they have to be labelled as fascists, racists, new age slavers, undercover spies for the government, greedy, immature, petty, arrogant, pimps and whore-owners, spiteful, condescending, mean-spirited, Republicans, turncoats, snitches, provocateurs, hypocrites, shills, ambitious, self-serving and untrustworthy clowns.

    And it disappoints me that white liberals have such a hard time in discussions of black issues. And in this case, what I mean is.... they have a hard time handling writers such as yourself, who have clearly thrown a rod, and are saying things that would get any serious writer thrown off a blog altogether. I mean, can you imagine if I came on here, week after week, and attacked a black man, such as perhaps Barack Obama, as being a pimp, a spy, a traitor, a whore-monger, and a modern day slaver? Here, let's try it out.

    Barack Obama is a pimp.

    Hey, how about that pimp Obama? 

    Who you pimping today, Barack? 

    Maaaaan, you sure do look like a pimp Barack. 

    Now, I don't know about you, but those seem to me to be slightly beyond what most people would regard as useful contributions to the debate. 

    Eric. Get a grip. You used to do a lot better than this.


    I find it funny that you feel qualified to dictate decorum.


    You and Eric should do a doubles-act, following West and Smiley around.

    We could call it "Froth & Drool." 

    Or maybe the "We're Sniffin' Out Pimps" Tour.


    Well it looks like you lost your job as Chief Decorum Inspector.


    I have to admit that I laughed out loud at your comment, rmrd!

    You're kinda caught there, Quinn.

    My dad always used to say

    There's no one who loves Jesus more

    Than the reformed whore!

    (I'm glad to see you back, sans pseudonymical disguises.)


    Like Quinn l'Esquimeau is his real name?


    I'll have you know that the l'Esquimeaux were an old and respected Canadian family, who achieved both wealth and prominence in the early 1900s by inventing and selling a popular frozen concoction known as the l'Esquimalt.

    The l'Esquimeaux' fortunes declined after the 1930s; an American entrepreneur stole the l'Esquimalt formula from the icy cave where it was kept hidden, patented it and re-marketed the treat as "Eskimo Pies."

    The l'Esquimeaux never really recovered from the insult to their name and fortune, and the family faded out of public view. Little is known of their whereabouts or activities after 1965, and I believe Quinn is the last remaining descendant of the original l'Esquimeau family.

                                                         ****

    Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

    And sometimes it isn't. (heh heh heh)

     


    Well, it was around '65 that I joined The Band. They didn't do a lot during the next years, just wanted to hang around the house in upstate NY and play with this Zibberman kid or somethin'. Bit of a losing strategy, I figured, so I went off to join the Marines in '72. Bit of a crisis in Vietnam, thought I best lend a hand if we were gonna pull this one out. 

    Anyway, apparently The Band were a bit upset with me leaving, Rick Danko even wrote this song in hopes I'd return.

    I didn't though. Sadly, I died, face down in the mud, at Khe Sanh, 4 years earlier. 

     

     


    Tapped into Bob Dylan's Dream, eh? careful, powerful stuff. And stay away from those Esquimaux pies - they're like catnip to a dreamer, better than peyote. And a lot more calories for those cold winter nights.


    Quinn,

    Of course, I disagree with everything you've just said here. I'm an effective communicator and an educated hood rat, which means, in effect, that I'm  both bicultural, and bilingual. So you communicate to your audience in the way that you feel is appropriate, and I'll communicate with mine in the way that I see fit.

     

    Oh, and since you went out of your way to inform the world that you went to Harvard, I'd feel remiss if I ended this response without taking the time to stroke you. So, congratulations. 


    Eric;

    You claim, repeatedly, to be educated and intelligent and an effective communicator. Sorry, I don't find your blogs of recent months to be any of those things. You used to be better though. But since you started in on this repetitive ranting thing, no, they aren't.

    They're full to overflowing with hatred, for starters. These days, they no longer really go after anything new. They just search for new ways to say that West and Smiley are evil. Fascists? Pimps? etc. 

    And who is your audience here? Who here is learning anything new form what you're saying, or being deepened in their appreciation of the world? 

    Not sure I see it. 

    Anyway, I've pointed this out before, but you can't even be bothered to actually read what people have written anymore. For example, I didn't say I had gone to Harvard. Why? Because, ummmmmm, I didn't. Not at all, not for a moment. So your crack about me needing strokes? Well, it apparently made you feel good, but like I say - you're not seeing the world anymore Eric. You're basically just broadcasting your feelings out onto it. 

    These recent blogs, for instance, are basically just pimping out hate. I don't think you started out that way, but that's where you've ended up. Pimping hate. I'm not saying I like West and Smiley. I can't stand Smiley, and I don't have much time for West. But where you're coming from is a place a whole lot darker than they deserve. 

    I remember how you used to write, Eric. And think. And it was better than this. 

    I hope you get better, or feel better, or find better, real soon. Seriously. for all the jabs of debate and insult-counterinsult nonsense we do here, I hope things get better for you. And soon.

    Have a good night.


    Just a question, you suggest that you played a part in the Civil Rights movement. Do you have any reservations about repeatedly questioning Wattrees's intelligence?


    rmrd. Let's set aside our past differences (for the moment, at least) and just discuss this point, ok? We can return to "not speaking" after. 

    [Before I respond on substance, let me add a correction to what you said. I don't believe I have ever claimed to play a part in the American Civil Rights movement, other than cheering it on and at best, strictly at third hand, ok? Also, anything I have done has been primarily in other countries, and certainly only of tertiary importance there.]

    Now, I assume you mentioning this in connection with intelligence means that somehow I shouldn't be saying such things. But to me, as a believer in equal rights for blacks, women, native peoples, immigrants and even Nova Scotians, part of this includes the equal right to call a person's views idiotic, asinine, racist or even unintelligent - as they appear to me. 

    NOTE. I do try, hard, to separate a person's arguments from who they are as people. I genuinely try to make my slapdowns more about their comments, and less about them as people. I suspect if you reread my last comment you can see me actually trying to do that. but it's a fairly common failure, I believe, to not do well in this regard. I know I fail regularly, and am wrong to do so. So again, I apologize for those times when I fail - today, as well as previously.  

    However. I make no such retraction of my statements that this blog is not making a very solid, enlightening or substantial contribution. I listed only some of the stream of insults which Eric has included in it. It is simply not possible to make a rant such as that above and then dub it an intelligent contribution. I have listed some of the terms he uses above. Try to imagine if someone from Fox had written a piece in which they called Obama and Michelle ALL of these terms, in less than 1 minute!

    "... fascists, racists, new age slavers, undercover spies for the government, greedy, immature, petty, arrogant, pimps and whore-owners, spiteful, condescending, mean-spirited, Republicans, turncoats, snitches, provocateurs, hypocrites, shills, ambitious, self-serving and untrustworthy clowns."

    Say what you will, that's an extremely high-powered set of insults. And a ridiculous set, at that. All these Mussolini references, for instance. Hell, why not throw in Hitler? Or the Cointelpro/spies bits. Really? No evidence offered, at all, just a smearing of somebody Eric disagrees with as being in the pay of Government spies? Can you imagine if I - a "progressive" - blogged, again and again, that Obama was a spy for Communist China or some such. What would you do? Well, actually, we KNOW what you would do. Because there are Republican whack jobs saying those very things. You would dismiss it as ridiculous, in the absence of any evidence. And pronounce it a smear. Which... it is. In both cases.

    Now, as a champion of Civil Rights, are you saying that I should somehow not attack Eric's pieces, and in particular, not dare call them unintelligent? That strikes me odd, as I use that term - intelligence - precisely because Eric uses it as a bit of a mantra, the fact that he's intelligent and educated, by his own means and his own hand. To which I say, more power to him.

    But am I then going to somehow pull my punches, and not say when I think he's behaving like an ass, or saying things that are absurd, insulting or stupid? No, I won't. I don't care if he's black. His piece here today is crap. It's awful. I mean, he criticizes West for teaching at Harvard, when the man he's DEFENDING... went to Harvard. This would strike most people as a damn weak argument. And then the Mussolini bits, the single person wronged by an insurance company, etc. etc.

    So I said what I thought. That the piece was not good, and in fact, pretty much crossed over into the territory of smear. And then, I tried to add that for whatever reason, I don't think Eric's on his game. I suspect that things in his real world must be deeply troubling to him, for his work to fall to this level. Because he IS, based on previous efforts, a smart man, intelligent, insightful, as well as a solid writer.

    This piece is not, however.

    I'm sure some people don't like these sorts of things being mentioned on blogs, but I've been around long enough now, in blog terms, to see that sometimes.... people ARE in difficulty in their worlds, and it infects their work. In fact, I've come to realize it happens a surprising amount on these blogs. Not sure why. For example, this past year I've personally been going through the process whereby my partner has been diagnosed and then received treatment for ovarian cancer. Does that affect my writing? Damn right it does. 

    Could I be wrong about Eric? Sure. Could he be just fine in his life? Sure. But as it stands, the piece is still nonsense. And I'm not shy about saying that. It's not the end of the world, it's just the end of this piece. 

    Hope you are well.


    Thanks for the explanation.

    Our dear brother Cornel often appears in articles in the Black blogosphere. West and Smiley often will make an appearance in an area where Obama is campaigning to do a poverty tour. Then they leave. I think Wattree is just blowing off steam.

    Eric Wattree is writing about jazz musicians like Rita Edmunds (and Jackie MacLean)

    http://wattree.blogspot.com/2012/07/presenting-ms-rita-edmond-contempora...

    He also writes on general jazz topics

    http://www.leimertparkbeat.com/profiles/blogs/reflections-on-the-stanley...

     

    I think Wattree is OK.

    I hope your partner is doing well.


    Thank you for giving me the benefit of the doubt, RM,

    But I meant every syllable. If it seems that I'm a little more harsh and "in your face" than I've been in the past, it's because I've decided to start writing from the more honest perspective of a writer, than from the sterile, ivory tower perspective of a journalist. The genteel rules of journalism were appropriate when we had an educated and engaged electorate, but now that much of the press and our entire educational system have been preempted, writers have a responsibility to also become educators, and when necessary, advocates, in order to get the people's attention. So you'll be seeing that change reflected in my writing in the future. 

    I've become fed up with watching journalists gloss over blatant lies as though they deserve "objective" consideration. A lie is a lie, and since the word "objectivity" only becomes valid when we're weighing "facts," a good writer should be able to distinguish between a fact and a lie, and he should be prepared to point out the difference between the two in the most stark and uncompromising terms. In the future, that's what I intend to do, by any means necessary.


    Thanks for the explanation

    Cornel and Tavis are frequently mentioned in the Black blogosphere. They were in West Virginia around the time of an Obama appearance. They do the photo-op, then disappear.

    Wattree has been writing about jazz musicians like Rita Edmond and Jackie MacLean.as well as other jazz topics

    Hope that your partner is doing well.


    Oops I thought the first post had been blocked.


    Quinn,

    You indicated that I have nothing to say, and that my articles are declining in quality, yet, you continue to read them, and you write a critique that rivals the length of the article itself. Why would you waste your time doing that on drivel? I certainly wouldn't, so I detect an inconsistency there. But I don't have a problem with that, because one of the ways that I determine my effectiveness is through the amount of passion that I manage to evoke from the reader - it doesn't matter whether it's love or anger. Thus, if I'm not being attacked, criticized, or harangued by those who disagree with me, I feel like I'm being less than effective. So thank you for your passion.

     

    You also made me smile when you talked about how angry I am, because the fact is, I rarely, if ever become angry over people's behavior. Throughout the course of history man has clearly demonstrated himself to be stupid, so why should I become angry when he's merely adhering to his nature? So, when I observe our political environment, I look at it with the very same kind of detachment that I use when I'm looking upon an ant farm. And when I write, I select my tone in the very same way that a golfer decides which club to use. I select the tone that I decide will be most effective in getting my point across. I thought every writer did that.  Didn't they teach you that at Harvard?


    It's important to stand up against ugly in this world.

    Sadly or fortunately, you're not trying to be ugly.

    So why not just think about it - we all like you - we're friends. What you wrote is over the top. You've written much better, but you're on the wrong train right now.

    This isn't cool jazz, this isn't "path with a heart". You see West & Smiley as a threat, but they're a bit of coyote in the staid politosphere - some shit disturbing that's needed whether they're exactly right or way off. They're the bum note that lets the real jazz artist take off in a different direction.

    Take the "A" train - there's none better.


    Quinn,

    if I misread what you said, I apologize. But I write about issues that I think need to be discussed, and we are discussing this issue, aren't we? Several people in the Black community have told me that this, and my last article about Tavis and West have caused them to take another look at what they've previously thought of these two characters, and that is why we write, am I correct? So regardless to what you think, I've succeeded in what I set out to do, haven't I? 

    And I'm going to continue to write about these two, because regardless to whether you're tired of reading about them or not, I don't write for your entertainment. I'm on a mission, specifically targeted at the Black community, to undo a political dog-n-pony show that's been established over years of public relations, demagoguery, and political  hype. So while I'm sorry that the subject matter doesn't meet your standards of what constitute relevance in your world, everything is not about you, is it?

     

    We write about Mitt Romney and say the exact same things about him over and over again every single day, don't we? So why is it considered redundant in your eyes when that very same standard is applied to issues relevant to the Black community?  Thus, it is the height of arrogance for you to presume to dictate what I should write about, and what level of passion I should bring to the subject, don't you think? 


    You write repeatedly about a money making operation being conducted in the Black community. Therefore, some suggest that you are mentally ill. That in and of itself is crazy.

    It is also interesting that if one disagrees with a certain approach to getting things done in DC that merely shout to the rooftops that you oppose Barack Obama in the same manner as they, you are somehow "Less than Black" or even a race traitor. They have the audacity to make these charges as they sit on the sidelines and do nothing more than criticize.

    They want to dictate what gets written. They want to determine who is holier than thou. It's ridiculous.


    Half of what's written about Romney is unhinged, which is why it isn't terribly effective.

    Complain about West & Smiley all you want - just avoid the absurd and hateful imagery.


    Peracles,

     

    You write what, and in the way, that you want to write, and I'll decide what's appropriate for me. That's why I write my own articles instead of calling you and asking you to write them for me. if you don't like my approach to writing, or subject matter, do yourself a favor and don't read my writings. Life is simple, why blow it all out of proportion?

     

    Actually, if you truly hate what I'm writing, you're doing yourself a severe disservice. Because the more people like yourself tell me that I'm being ridiculous, the more motivated I become. It serves a clear signal that I'm on the right track. When you hate something, you simply ignore it. That's why I know so little about Guy Lombardo.


    Peracles,

    You write what, and in the way, that's appropriate for you, and I'll decide what's appropriate for me. That's why I write my own articles instead of calling you and asking you to write them for me. if you don't like my approach to writing, or the subject matter that I broach, do yourself a favor and don't read my writings. Life is simple, why blow it all out of proportion?

    Actually, if you truly hate what I'm writing, you're doing yourself a severe disservice. Because the more people like yourself tell me that I'm being ridiculous, the more motivated I become to move forward. You see, the mere fact that your cage is rattled serves a clear indication that I'm on the right track. 

    When you hate something, you simply ignore it. That's why I know so little about Guy Lombardo.


    Tried to be friendly, but...

    Keep up the hate speech, buddy, keep on keeping on. Don't want to hold you back.


    I was just watching Dick Gregory in some replay on Reno....hahahaha. he had no pants on.

    hahahahaha

    We forget he was a top comedian at one time.

    You get me laughing so hard at Cornell in these blogs that now I cannot watch the fellow without laughing.

    The hair and the scarf and the scowl?

    I am just chiming in because I am watching Professor Dyson again on Bashir's PM show at MSNBC.

    Dyson is a poet and a lexiconist. hahahah

    I have always liked Dyson.

    The contrast between he and Cornell is phenomenal.

    I appreciate your posts on this subject.

    Maybe Cornell has just become a comedian but you are sure helping him along.

    hahahah


    Thank you, Richard.

    Many people tend to become so star struck that it blinds them to reality. So I thought I'd take the time to place things in perspective. 


    As always, I appreciate your post and once again, making me more aware of all the 'back stories' and nuances that otherwise I would not know.   

    There are so many interesting layers in your blogs- I confess I read each more than once - the first time for the 'story', the next is to obtain the facts and 'back story'.

    When you brought in Cain, I was struck by how perfect it was to use him, because - at least for me - this clarified some of the traits and motivations of these two men. I always found Cain to be phony and a perfect caricature of a oily used car salesman.   But even worse are Tavis and West, who seem to 'wannabe' Cain (and that's just beyond sad).

    Do you believe that the majority, no matter black or white or what ethnic identifier, consider them to be at all credible in their rantings?  What is their long term goal?  And ideas?

     


    Thank you, Aunt Sam.

    I'm glad that you're getting something out of my articles. People like yourself make it all worthwhile.

    As for Tavis and West's long-term agenda, I don't think they've even thought it through themselves. I think that they're so overwhelmed by their sense of anger, greed, envy, and entitlement that at this point they're just acting on instinct. Initially, they stepped out on a ledge by overestimating their value within the Black community. Now they find themselves unable to come in from the cold without losing face. That's why they've changed their lyrics from "Obama's not Black enough," to "All we want to do is help the poor." 


    I forgot about Cain until I read Auntie's comment and then saw his quote in Huffpo that he would be leading President Obama right now if the repubs had chosen him. hahahahaha

    Brings one back to Keyes. hahahahahaha

    Out of context, but 'Saintorum' is back at it again too and he almost makes Cain look sane or at least on house-release. hahahah

    See, this whole thing just cracks me up.

    I do know this...

    Cornell and his buddy and Cain and Keyes and Saintorum have found a way to make moolah!

    They do not give one goddamn about humanity or our nation or anything else.

    Of course neither do Pawlenty or Newt or hundreds of other politicians turned pundits!


    Richard,

    Exactly!


    Aunt Sam,

    When I re-read my response I noticed that I didn't answer your question about whether or not Tavis And West have credibility. In that regard, I think they have just enough pull among the undereducated - those who tend to become starstruck by notoriety and hype - to have a negative impact on a close election. But most serious thinkers have long since writtent them off as opportunists, publicity whores, and entertainers.

    Cornel West is an expert showman but nothing more: The lead huckster of the Ivy League's takedown

    Cornel West, the Princeton professor of African-American studies who recently made some crude statements about President Obama, has never been much more than a six-figure entertainer, ready to bite the hand that pays him even while reaching for his check. He has never seen a microphone or television camera that he did not like.

    Publicity, not scholarship, is his true tradition. West often gives his listeners no more than sound and fury, signifying nothing. And he is very good at appearing overcome by his passionate convictions.

    http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-05-23/news/29592494_1_cornel-west-black-public-intellectuals-black-academics

     


    Too freaking funny - apparently his crime is he appeals to white liberals? And Peggy Noonan is part of the integrity of the right? Peggy wrote a speech for Reagan and never came down - I think Sinatra wrote "Fly Me to the Moon" for her. Here, have some Peggy from Wonkette.

    As for David Frum, well, he enabled the whole Bush II era, including "Axis of Evil". Is his integrity spinning a bit on a dime like Andrew Sullivan to start supporting just a bit of non-neocon reality once the cow's left the barn? But he still thinks invading Iraq was worth it. Frankly, who knows what he really thinks? Born into media royalty, he's turned his connections and his huckster-for-hire skills into a good career. Shame no WMDs or he'd be running for office by now.

    • But once again, it's a pretty meatless opinion piece on West. He's a huckster, Harris-Perry is authentic. One of these days, one of these articles can actually state "why", rather than throwing out just so many ad hominems. I suppose maybe after November. Until then, I'll ready about how Peggy Noonan actually talked to an Africkan. Should be delicious and profound coming from Our Lady of the Soundbite.

    Wattree's post was bound to generate controversy. Fine.

    It needn't have generated the exchange of insults that accompanied the controvery.

    An independent voter , just arrived from Mars, who read this thread what have thought- I want to know what Party these people belong to . So I can be sure to avoid joining it.

     


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