MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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So I saw Maureen Dowd's piece published Saturday zooming up the "Trending" chart @ NYTimes.com, by evening it was at #1. So I read it, it's good:
Four participation trophies later, the Democrats finally take a look in the mirror. Even they aren’t sure who’s staring back.
(I know Maureen's snark has become tiresome to a lot of people, including me sometimes, but I think in this case she is bringing all of her past experience as a boots-on-the-campaign-bus reporter to bear, it's a good one.)
So in it she quotes from a discussion with Rahm Emmanuel, and mentions that along with Bruce Reed, he wrote a "new piece in The Atlantic" on topic. So I went to find that, published June 20, and also found it a worthwhile read:
How the Democrats Can Take Back Congress
Two architects of their party's last congressional victory argue Democrats need to recruit candidates who match their districts and offer voters a detailed agenda.
And then I noticed another new piece at The Atlantic by Franklin Foer for their July/August issue, and I also read the whole long thing and I do recommend it:
What’s Wrong With the Democrats?
If the party cares about winning, it needs to learn how to appeal to the white working class
So I'm all Demmed out. If anyone wants to discuss, feel free, but I've had enough, don't expect me to chime in.
Comments
It needs to appeal. Full stop.
It needs to do a more professional job of presenting its existing positions. Which would appeal to sufficient
Anumber of voters in the white working class, the black working class, all other color working class, the white middle class, the black middle class the all other color middle class, the white upper class ..you take my point.
It's policies don't need to be tailored to any particular group, they need to be better presented.
Were any lives saved by Obamacare? If so, any guess at how many? Were any lives prevented from
falling into deep unhappiness by Obamacare? Do you remember some examples?
We didn't do an atrocious job of presenting the wonderful benefits of Obamacare. We didn''t do any job at all.
The democratic party has a great story to tell . It doesn't need to change the "story" i.e. ,it needs to
tell it. And.....
Too often those who counsel "changing its appeal " mean changing its policies. And too often mean
that that change should be to oppose some group which isn't sufficiently OK. Guess what nearly everyone has some "deplorable " belief or role. It would be great if they didn't but meanwhile we want their vote.
To support the very good stuff we do right now,
by Flavius on Sun, 06/25/2017 - 9:44am
Furthermore...
"Far-right Republicans..have their eyes on Mr. Heller.......a group ...is preparing a seven- figure ad campaign
against the senator" NYT June 25.
Which will be effective.
by Flavius on Sun, 06/25/2017 - 9:59am
We keep avoiding the elephant in the room regarding the current white voting public
The above is from the last link provided in the post. There is a backlash against programs that are seen as benefiting non-white people. White voters will respond to Republicans who suggest that money is being stolen from whites to benefit non-white people. Pointing out that race plays a role in voting patterns of white voters gets you labeled as calling all whites racists.
by rmrd0000 on Sun, 06/25/2017 - 10:53am
Well thank you for making me read Dowd after an eight year hiatus. I can happily report I didn't need to gouge my eyes out.
this bit
sounds right to me.
by Obey on Sun, 06/25/2017 - 11:20am
My main takeaways after having time to let it all sink in:
National message is neither here nor there until you get back Congress in order to reverse some of the gerrymandering. First things first: the swing districts are fewer and fewer as time goes by, as the (planned) polarization grows, they grow in importance. You've got to target them with candidates that fit the district! You can't win those with gobs of outsider money or making it a national message race, the people in the district have to like the candidate, it's just that simple. You can't get Congress in order to start reversing things without doing that first. Reed and Emmanuel know how to do this, their methods apply more than ever:
This is reiterated by yet another NYTimes guest op-ed on topic yesterday, a local guy about the Ossoff race is trying to point out you can't expect a secular Jew to win in a district with Bible Belt heritage. The Times has incorrectly given it a headline that suggests it's a national problem for the Dems, it's not, it's just about that district:
But again, I do also have the takeaway that national message is not the problem. This is countering Dowd's point of "they don't know what they stand for." Because: reverse gerrymandering and it's not a problem!
Look, even with a huge number of white men despising her, Hillary won a majority of the national electorate, so national party message is not the immediate problem. It's on target with the national electorate. It's just that one has to deal with some identity groups that are dying away before that can get to work.
Obama knew how to get around this problem some and he won twice. He still energized a new coalition without upsetting as many older white men in enough districts. That's pointed out well in one of the articles, I don't remember which. Some might call that misogyny, I wouldn't, I just think it was her particular baggage, a different woman might have enough appeal just like Obama. And with all her disadvantages, Hillary would have won if only she would have spent a little more effort targeting the right districts. But she would have had a pretty heavy duty road to hoe with all those GOP guys in Congress and all the baggage constantly distracting. The distraction level would be quite near with it is now! Trump would be out there feeding it with tweets. Hillary winning the presidency without Congress would have not solved much at all.
DEMS SIMPLY HAVE TO WIN MORE SEATS IN CONGRESS FIRST. And they have to do it by running the right candidates in the swing districts. In one, it might be a moderate, in another it might be a Bernie Sanders type, in another, a cultural conservative. I don't think race matters so much here, rather, it's the whole package. (For an extreme example, see Sheriff David Clarke of Milwaukee, from wikipedia: He was re-elected in November 2006, 2010, and 2014, and is currently serving his fourth full term.[1] Although registered and elected as a Democrat in a heavily Democratic county, many of Clarke's political views align with those of conservative Republicans.[2][3] Clarke frequently appears as a guest on Fox News and was a speaker at the 2016 Republican National Convention)
by artappraiser on Sun, 06/25/2017 - 3:27pm