[Media] Tribute vs Obit - what's its role?

    Marketing by any other name?

    Partisan swag?

    A public service?

    Kinda depends who's holding.

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    "The Fluffing of the President 2016" - a political tradition continues, kind of... [thread]




    RX: media, pathology as politics


    A German doctor noted pharma spending used to be 17% of healthcares costs - now it's 70%. What could go wrong?

     


    sometimes you just feel the need to quit the pretense of objectivity:



    Ignoring that 30% is a helluva lot, and creates a vast amount of social disorder when you contemplate 30% of say 250 million, i.e. 75 million largely of shit disturbers & malcontents & people with agendas & often confabulated needs and wishes, many with tenuous grasps on reality and happy to seize an easier way to threaten and harass those who offend their sensibilities?
     


    Yes, I agree. But here I just ran across an excellent example of a media figure (Toobin) stoking political divisiveness and a geek type (Silver) pointing out that majority feelings on the issue are really bi-partisan:

    The Senate voted 57-40 to repeal the mask mandate. https://t.co/q13cNyAFN0 https://t.co/HCAtIEuva3

    — Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) April 19, 2022

    I.E., Toobin's going: everthing is all about Trump's Republican party vs. Democrats and Silver is going: no this is about requiring masks.

    Political pundits have a vested interest in stoking political diviseness over everything, that political affiliation is the main thing that divides society, is the main denominator....And here's arta's regular monthly reminder that actually, political Independents are basically the majority of the population.


    "Libs of Tiktok" is a focus today as regards social media.One important question to ask: is this a pro pushing memes and trying to manipulate people, or is this just someone acting as the voice of a segment of the people from the bottom up, saying what they feel?

    Meet the woman behind Libs of TikTok, secretly fueling the right’s outrage machine https://t.co/VwNc9sB0NO

    — Post Business (@washpostbiz) April 19, 2022

    beginning excerpt:

    On March 8, a Twitter account called Libs of TikTok posted a video of a woman teaching sex education to children in Kentucky, calling the woman in the video a “predator.” The next evening, the same clip was featured on Laura Ingraham’s Fox News program, prompting the host to ask, “When did our public schools, any schools, become what are essentially grooming centers for gender identity radicals?”

    Libs of TikTok reposts a steady stream of TikTok videos and social media posts, primarily from LGBTQ+ people, often including incendiary framing designed to generate outrage. Videos shared from the account quickly find their way to the most influential names in right-wing media. The account has emerged as a powerful force on the Internet, shaping right-wing media, impacting anti-LGBTQ+ legislation and influencing millions by posting viral videos aimed at inciting outrage among the right.

    The anonymous account’s impact is deep and far-reaching. Its content is amplified by high-profile media figures, politicians and right-wing influencers. Its tweets reach millions, with influence spreading far beyond its more than 648,000 Twitter followers. Libs of TikTok has become an agenda-setter in right-wing online discourse, and the content it surfaces shows a direct correlation with the recent push in legislation and rhetoric directly targeting the LGBTQ+ community [.....]

    I also note this emphasized blurb

    An account in search of a voice — and a big break from Joe Rogan

    two tweets on the article I found interesting:

    The Bezos Post’s internet hall monitor is so excited to “expose” @libsoftiktok. Here is my comment: pic.twitter.com/SodXls9NV7

    — Christina Pushaw (@ChristinaPushaw) April 19, 2022


    all the info in the Libs of TikTok piece was already publicly available online. but Taylor had one thing that no one else had which made the report possible…Glenn Greenwald accidentally confirming their identity lol https://t.co/SAsSGNIs0y pic.twitter.com/jE9sVwDh06

    — Matt Binder (@MattBinder) April 19, 2022

    and here's what centrist Carl sees in the WaPo article:


    Obama:


    Ok, so, Steve Bannon goes with Putin -


    if true, yay!


    a few minutes ago

    then there's this cheeky


    p.s. contrary to what I read from a lot of upset liberals at Twitter, I see evidence that Jack Dorsey and Elon Musk are recently friendly with each other:

    Your new title at Block is

    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 23, 2022


    <—- you drop that Techno?

    — jack⚡️ (@jack) April 24, 2022

    that's regarding this

    Jack Dorsey’s new title: Block Head https://t.co/k2hNNiYI7N

    — CNBC International (@CNBCi) April 22, 2022

    not just recently:


    Jack Dorsey just tweeted that he is totally on board:


    Elon Musk isn’t imagining things

    This post has been very platform-centric because platforms are a convenient index.

    But the ideological movement — not an overthrow of the party establishment by leftists, but the establishment leaders themselves taking on new ideas — is clearly visible in other forms. In June of 2016, Dylan Matthews wrote for Vox that “President Obama’s huge reversal on Social Security is a big win for liberals.” In July of that year, Victoria Massie wrote “Hillary Clinton said ‘systemic racism’ in tonight's speech. That's major.” On May 27 of 2020, David Roberts described a new consensus approach to climate policy on the left, and on May 28 he published a piece arguing that Joe Biden should embrace this consensus even though Biden “just won without them.”

    You can see that both of those articles have July 2020 updates at the top noting that Biden had basically done what Roberts recommended and adopted the new progressive consensus. Pivoting left after winning a primary is a little odd, but it’s what Biden did, and progressives acknowledged it at the time.

    There’s lots of room for debate about whether this was a good idea. But the people who yelled at Elon Musk that he was imagining this leftward transformation are being silly. The fact that DW-NOMINATE scores don’t pick up on it is a limitation of that metric — not to say that it’s wrong, but just that analysis of roll call votes only tells you so much.

    Among Democrats, self-identified liberals started to outnumber self-identified moderates only in Obama’s second term. And at around that same time, mainstream Democrats started to embrace ideas that they would previously have shied away from.

    That’s not a commentary on the wisdom of the ideas or of adopting them, but the shift pretty clearly happened. It’s very hard to reason clearly about the world if you don’t start by acknowledging the reality.

    the ending of

    Democrats have changed a lot since 2012

    Moving left on economics — but also on climate, race, and a bunch of other things

    by Matthew Yglesias and Milan Singh @ Slow Boring, 11 hr ago



    and just an interesting BTW that a lot of people are quoting


    going for the record of most cancelled man?


    replacing dupe with this one that's proof they even still let Qanon fans on -

    just no Mikey....


    beyond the marketing, why do "good" professional reporters end up exacerbating the problem? After reading this, I would say look to college students getting straight a's right now, it's pretty much the same thing, they practice within a bubble of believers in whatever the big picture narrative is -



    this tweet from 4:38 pm ET just hit a million "likes"


    "Hi, we do a shitty job on both sides, so we must be fair & balanced!"
    How about the media needs to fucking get its house in order and report news accurately,
    robustly, competently, timely, debunking as much of the fake news bullshit as possible in real time,
    but also leading us towards intellectual debates & needed discussions, not kids throwing spitballs.
    Elon goes between genius and 2-year-old/kindergartner, but we've had this stupid
    "offend both sides equally" for a while, which I posted something on a week ago I think.
    And yes, the management of Twitter pre-Elon hasn't been able to keep up, though they
    do try to adjust - it's a huge messy system of conflicted humans, so not trivial - unlike this tweet.


    Every time a "both sides do it" appears, there should be a reference to relative magnitude and egregiousness.

    You shouldn't post mean w/o std deviation and other germane statistical references - e.g. how much are outliers, how much mainstream?



    The bright side of Elon Musk's Twitter takeover - sharing the whole thing because it's so well reasoned -

    by Hope King, author of Axios Closer, 4 hrs. ago

    Some Twitter power users, including journalists and politicians, are apoplectic about Elon Musk’s planned takeover of the platform. But there are plenty of optimists, in tech and among the general public, who believe Musk could make Twitter better.

    Why it matters: With the deal expected to close later this year, what happens on the platform and to the platform will likely shape both the 2022 midterms and the next presidential election.

    State of play: Twitter has struggled as a public company. By taking it private, Musk could experiment more boldly because Twitter wouldn't have to live up to quarterly pressures to show results.

    • Musk also has a huge following on the platform. He tweets a lot about product ideas and engages with feedback. And the people who support his takeover believe a leader who isn’t a “buttoned-up suit” could bring new energy and creativity.
    • “I almost think of it as — imagine if MrBeast bought YouTube,” said Galileo Russell, HyperChange TV founder, referring to one of YouTube’s most popular creators. (Russell is also an investor in Tesla.)

    The big picture: Musk's stance on "free speech" is driving a lot of the consternation. He says he wants less content moderation, and people are worried he may reinstate former President Trump's account.

    • A lot of people — especially people who are already subject to a lot of online harassment — are worried about the prospect of Twitter loosening its moderation policies.
    • "I'm not saying I have all the answers here, but I do think we want to be very reluctant to delete things, and just be very cautious with permanent bans," he said at the TED2022 conference two weeks ago.

    What they're saying: "There is definitely a partisan divide," when it comes to who is happy or not about the deal, said Courtney Radsch, a fellow at the UCLA Institute for Technology, Law and Policy and a senior fellow at the Center for International Governance Innovation.

    • "A lot of the people who are [very] concerned about Twitter are the people who are very invested in Twitter" and have spent many years building up their presence on the platform, she added.

    Reality check: It will likely be impossible for Musk to apply a blanket policy about what can be said or shared. He'll certainly also fail at making everyone happy because what is considered acceptable free speech depends on who's in power.

    • As high stakes as things are in the U.S., Twitter is a global platform. He'll realize pretty quickly that he'll have to moderate some content in order to stay available in many countries, Radsch said. 
    • On the other hand, if he decides to be the free speech absolutist he says he is, he could completely resist complying with national laws that try to restrict speech (like in RussiaNigeriaIndia and Pakistan) or force him to moderate content (like in the EU).
    • "Wouldn't that be an interesting experiment?"Radsch said.

    Our thought bubble: Skepticism about how Musk will handle Twitter is warranted.

    • Musk’s unpredictability makes it hard to trust him. And that unpredictability, from someone so wealthy and popular, also inspires fear. 
    • And while he has built multiple consequential companies, in fields that aren’t easy, the means through which he built them, as well as his personal behavior, have also warranted a yearning for him to be more responsible and "act like an adult."
    • But social media as we know it is less than two decades old and it has a long list of problems. In about the same amount of time, Musk’s companies have helped electric cars become mainstream and gotten space rockets to land themselves back on Earth. The fact that he actually put together the financing to buy Twitter was a surprise to many observers too.
    • So are we sure he can’t make Twitter better?

    she links to this - among other things, and I think everyone should consider its political implications, that many people are not opposed to billionaires using their money this way!  So all the sturm and drang attacks on billionaires that is favored by many liberals does not play that well with lots of people

    More than half of voters approve of Musk buying Twitter: poll

    BY JULIA MANCHESTER - @ TheHill.com, 04/25/22 6:01 PM ET


    that said, I see now Axios has done their own poll -

    Exclusive poll: Americans support removing troubling tweets, 23 hrs. ago, CHART AT LINK

    Elon Musk is likely to find out that there's not a big market for his campaign for more free speech on Twitter, according to an Ipsos poll shared exclusively with Axios.

    The big picture: Most Americans don't have a problem with Twitter or other social media companies removing posts that include misinformation, promote violence or pose a risk to the public, according to the poll.

    • They're more likely to oppose the removal of posts that promote political action or contain heated political rhetoric.

    By the numbers: 73% of all respondents said they support removing posts that probably have false information, with just 20% saying they oppose removing those posts.

    Elon Musk is likely to find out that there's not a big market for his campaign for more free speech on Twitter, according to an Ipsos poll shared exclusively with Axios.

    The big picture: Most Americans don't have a problem with Twitter or other social media companies removing posts that include misinformation, promote violence or pose a risk to the public, according to the poll.

    • They're more likely to oppose the removal of posts that promote political action or contain heated political rhetoric.

    By the numbers: 73% of all respondents said they support removing posts that probably have false information, with just 20% saying they oppose removing those posts. [.....]


    Peter Thiel worries me much more than Elon, as does Sheldon, the Mercers, the Koch Brothers, Zuck, the Pillow Guy, ...

    Elon makes a few dumb jokes on Twitter and people act like he's a big deal. He actually made electric vehicles and private sector space supply/travel a thing, his support for neural implants is cool even if a bit hype, underground metro capsule  replacements are cool if they work. Supplying Ukrainians with space internet was very useful & needed (tho his blurring the night sky with low orbit satellites is pretty crappy).


    Bam! What Mehdi Hasan said! pic.twitter.com/hkWMCEjiYQ

    — Aunt Crabby Calls Bullshit (@DearAuntCrabby) April 30, 2022

    I disagree. There are a lot of plenty far lefty propagandists out there that do a lot of damage because they aren't honest debaters, but out for #1, celebrity-style, not unlike what Trump does. Nikole Hannah-Jones, for one example

    We asked FAIR Advisor @Rhetors_of_York about the idea that there is a distinction between being "black" and "politically black."

    Here's what he said: pic.twitter.com/K9T3W1vNJO

    — Foundation Against Intolerance & Racism (FAIR) (@fairforall_org) May 1, 2022

     

    Actually, I follow Mehdi Hasan, and I'm starting to think he might be another one just like that.


    "Plenty", but not major candidates for President. Who the fuck is Nikole Hannah-Jones? she couldn't even get a tenure slot at UNC. AOC is a newbie representative - the rest of the Squad has much less of an actual following.
    The mainstream Democratic candidates with the most following have been calling for improving healthcare and work conditions as basic platform, but Biden, Clinton, Obama, even Bernie have been fairly consistently none-too-radical on foreign policy, including keeping the border safe and immigration within legal limits, etc.
    Yet the media always has to pull out the woke motherfuckers to compare with Trump & pull the "both sides do it" bullshit.
    AOC got 153K votes in Bronx/Queens in 2020. Pressley 267k in Boston. Tlaib 165K in Detroit. Bush 249K in St. Louis. Omar 256k in Minneapolis. 1 million votes between them. 
    Here you can see the seniority & committee positions of Dems in the House - how much front page space is given them, vs the Squad with no chairmanships & not really that much national pull, much of it from news orgs wanting to catch the "trend". Similar in fact to when Bernie ran, when the press liked the horserace thing so ignored the near impossible odds Bernie had to try to make it a tight contest.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seniority_in_the_United_States_House_of_Re...
    Culture wars gets the same tilted field - the Republicans seem to like all their top reps being crazy Fox-fed lunatics. Where's the equivalent by Democratic leaders?

     



    Put Trevor Noah in charge of Twitter - if Elon wants to see both the left & right complaining equally, Noah's his man.

    Seriously, have never been a big fan, but the material & delivery were pretty awesome - even up to closing zinger.



    very interesting tweet of strong support for all the major tv news networks!


    Here's Elon:



    She's quoting NY Post


    hah yeah I saw, but actually the one I saw said it wasn't a real NY Post story either, but a fake one. I didn't feel it worth time checking out, ( know what, comes to mind now, if he was my kid I would be checking out all the news on him too, nothing more important then laugh)


    She doesn't *look* like a space alien, nor anyhing like Elvis, so not sure where the Post's news angle is.


    How to do presidential administration press secretary: #1 rule to start with - they are not the enemy:




    pic.twitter.com/CWWDdur0oz

    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 11, 2022

    on a later thread, Elon and Jack have a quick chat:

    Chronological tweets seem much better than what “the algorithm” suggests

    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 12, 2022

     


    Tech billionaire trying to improve on 15 years of user moderation before his 1st day of work


    Durham runs over journalist privilege because because...

    (but I'm sure he'd give more obeisance to James O'Keefe and Project Veritas)



    & Russiagate (& NYT crappy handling) rears its ugly head again


    Durham fighting thru press

    Aside from the article, read the comments - Durham has continually violated legal requirements, but continues to paint his "Russiagate was a hoax" fantasy for the frothers. And any loss will be "the conspiracy against Durham". Sadly brilliant.

    A Phyrric victory for Dems - the right has already wished away any negatives for Jan 6. We really are in la-la land now.


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