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    Vice President Clinton? I don't think so

    By oleeb on Fri, 05/23/2008 - 1:07pm |
    This morning's report of negotiations with the Clinton camp and the Obama camp is certainly unpleasant news to this Democrat.  Neither was my first choice.  Both are corporate/centrist Democrats which is, to say the least, a tremendous disappointment particularly in light of the opportunity real Democrats/liberals/progressives had to support candidates who would actually make real changes in Washington.  But at this point there's no use crying over spilt milk.  Obama is going to be the nominee.  He won the race fair and square.

    Given Clinton's behavior, statements and antogonistic posture the past few months it seems inconceivable to me that Obama would choose her as the number 2 on the ticket.  I would not trust her as far as I could throw her if I were him.  Her hunger for power is disconcerting at minimum and at times downright repulsive.  Her corrosive tactics, her sense of entitlement and her bitterness convince me she should not be allowed to be too close to too much power---ever.

    There are many very good choices for Obama for Vice President.  But Hillary Clinton?  I don't think so.

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    The way I see it is that if Obama was open to her being his VP it would already be done. The fact that Hillary is talking the way she is, further pushing away Obama supporters tells me that instead of trying to play nice and make it easier for Obama to consider her, she's trying to force her way on to the ticket or doom Obama and the Dems if they rebuke her. But the way she is campaigning now she's making it impossible for Obama to choose her without alienating his base and making him out to be weak in that he could be bullied into the choice.

    Where it could get interesting is in her super delegates - do they continue to stand beside her and help her tear apart the party knowing full well that they'll be held accountable by in-state Obama supporters next time they're up for re-election? Does Clinton have any loyalty to these supporters of hers to bow out gracefully? Her Super-Delegate supporters need to worry about getting re-elected, and surely their continued support of Clinton past June 4th will be brought up during their next campaign - especially if McCain wins in November because Hillary Clinton will get most of the blame.


    by Jonze (not verified) on Fri, 05/23/2008 - 1:58pm

    It's unfortunate Hillary is taking this path. In a historical perspective, she'll be seen as coercing her way into the VP slot.

    She'll be seen as attempting to break the rules(MI and FL) instead of breaking the glass ceiling.

    I don't know that this sets a good example for women who aspire to be great leaders one day.

    While it's true that Presidents have had to choose VPs they didn't like, Sen. Clinton's path has been notably destructive for Obama and the party, for reasons pointed out over the last six months.

    Fighting is admirable. Gaming the system is not.


    by tpmgary (not verified) on Fri, 05/23/2008 - 2:54pm