Biden Said, ‘Most Cops Are Good.’ But Progressives Want Systemic Change.

By artappraiser on Wed, 08/19/2020 - 9:41pm |

NEW: Democrats have attempted to show a united front at their convention this week, but there's a big divide within the party on at least one issue: policing. Biden is pushing for reform, while progressives want systemic change. My latest w/@reidepstein https://t.co/Jk9pV0YrhQ
— John Eligon (@jeligon) August 19, 2020

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/us/politics/democrats-biden-defund-police.html

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“Most cops are good,” Biden said during a DNC panel on police violence. “The fact is that the bad ones have to be identified, prosecuted and out, period.”

It was a contrast from the repeated calls from Trump’s camp that Biden's out to “defund the police.” https://t.co/FNYJjoOjM9 pic.twitter.com/rPB0FMlU2C
— POLITICO (@politico) August 18, 2020

by artappraiser on Wed, 08/19/2020 - 10:07pm

A selection of tweets unhappy with the above situation:

No I’m sorry but they did not address racism. They showed a lot of beautiful pictures of POC and made references to BLM, but there was not one mention of an actual policy to help end systemic racism. It’s like binge watching a Marriott commercial.
— Marianne Williamson (@marwilliamson) August 18, 2020

“We have to get away from this good cop, bad cop thing, [...] I agree with Joe Biden that something needs to change, but we have to take it much further than that. Because in the balance are dead people that look like me.”

Just my two cents. https://t.co/x5UrDIr6jR
— Cori Bush (@CoriBush) August 19, 2020

Bernie fan that would like to compost the rich and has 3,500+ followers:

I wonder why in the world the DNC and Biden campaign would think that it was a good idea or advantagous for them in any way to have a "top cop" as a running mate for the election. Do they not realize that there is a serious ACAB problem in America??? DNC are sociopathic idiots!
— Daeley BERN IT ALL DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!! (@CalfDevin) August 17, 2020

LA group for #rentzero and #defundpolice, 11,000+ followers

“Most cops are good”... god damnit. FUCK JOE BIDEN #DemConvention
— People's City Council - Los Angeles (@PplsCityCouncil) August 18, 2020

Self-appointed "chair" of black male studies and writer on same, 9.400+ followers

I find it ironic that in the midst of riots & BLM that we are now discussing a Biden/Harris ticket, & not one Black pundit has even asked: "How will you stop cops from killing over 200 BM & a dozen BW every year in this country."
— L' Homme Noir (@DrTJC) August 17, 2020

self-described with 3,900+ followers

You've been in academia too long if you think "East Coast Leftists" are the ones most critical of the Biden/Kamala ticket. Black southern organizers aren't putting their lives on the line to vote for a rapist and a cop who don't even want universal healthcare during a pandemic.
— Yemi Thee Stallion (@unicornyemi) August 18, 2020

looks like an astroturfer for Kanye or a Russian troll or just a troll; joined August 2020, 4 followers

If @joebiden thinks that most cops are good and we need to weed out the bad ones, then he doesn't understand what systemic racism is. #DemocraticConvention
— joanna banana (@joannab01868217) August 18, 2020

by artappraiser on Wed, 08/19/2020 - 10:25pm

Loves it, a "Dad, detective, American #MAGA #Bluelivesmatter" with 840 followers:

Biden getting shit for saying “most cops are good”.... such an innocuous statement and the left is triggered..
Love it
— Delo (@delo1895) August 18, 2020

Bernie gal, 2,700+ followers:

sorry still stunned biden thought it was appropriate to say 'most cops are good' actually i think mass police brutality and domestic violence statistics show us that most cops are, in fact, not good
— Olivia Little (@OliviaLittle) August 18, 2020

Actor & Black trans live activist, 7,800+ followers including the ACLU:

Buddy, read the room pls
— defund the police sparks (@kyliesparks) August 18, 2020

by artappraiser on Wed, 08/19/2020 - 10:45pm

From the article

“I think the vast majority of us are saying, ‘I may do this with vomit in my mouth, but I’m voting for Harris and Biden because Trump has to get the hell out of office,’” said Cat Brooks, an activist based in Oakland, Calif., who has long lobbied for abolishing the police.

Edit to add:

Let us compare

Trump’s Republican Party now has a ballot full of nutters

What do you call it when your political movement has surrendered to loons who previously loomed on the shadowy fringe?

It’s called getting Loomered.

And that is precisely what has happened to the Republican Party.

Laura Loomer (R-Wackadoodle) won a Republican congressional primary in Florida Tuesday night, becoming the latest of a score of similarly bizarre figures to be chosen as the GOP standard-bearers in House and Senate races coast to coast.

Loomer has called Muslims “savages,” Islam “a cancer on society,” herself a “proud Islamophobe” and demanded “a non Islamic form of Uber or Lyft because I never want to support another Islamic immigrant driver.” She says she wants more migrants to die.

At her victory celebration Tuesday night, she stood with the founder of the white-nationalist group Proud Boys and too-radioactive-for Breitbart Milo Yiannopoulos. Her hate speech and ties to an anti-Muslim hate group have gotten her banned from Instagram, Medium, PayPal, Venmo, GoFundMe, Lyft, Uber, Facebook (which she sued for $3 billion) and Twitter (she chained herself to its New York headquarters wearing a Holocaust-style yellow Star of David).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/08/19/trumps-republican-party-now-has-ballot-full-nutters/?hpid=hp_opinions-fullwidth-12-12-00_opinion-card-a-fullwidth%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

by rmrd0000 on Wed, 08/19/2020 - 11:08pm

Ad for Republican Congressional candidate for Baltimore shared on rl FB timeline:

by EmmaZahn on Wed, 08/19/2020 - 11:14pm

Excellent - "I can do better because I care", "I can do better because I'm not Democrat", "I can clean up these bad boy neighborhoods by putting on a tight red dress and spiked heels".

Uh, why didn't she film her promo at night? That's when the real action happens. Anyway, watch The Wire - it addresses all these points. In 7 seasons. Baltimore.

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 08/20/2020 - 12:24am

You're really not being cynical enough. Possibly my fault. If only I could have made the FB embed work. It included a link to her GoFundMe account. Imagine the shoes, wardrobe, salon and spa visits she can pay for from campaign funds not to mention more walk-and-talk videos through the standing sets left over from The Wire, The Corner and Homicide Life on the Streets. But mostly think about how many shoes she will be able to buy!

Honestly, I have no idea how sincere her campaign is. I do wonder how successful it will be. It's different.

by EmmaZahn on Thu, 08/20/2020 - 6:09am

Oddly I didn't even think of her streetwalker aspect (even though my last comment seems to have it subconsciously present). But I guess half everyone on the internet's a white these days, always pitching something dodgy and untrue.

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 08/20/2020 - 6:20am

Not oddly, I did not think of a streetwalker aspect at all. More like she maybe aspires to be internet 'influencer' a la ~~Kendall~~ Kylie Jenner if she does not make it to Congress.

ETA: I have trouble telling the Kardasians and Jenners apart. My curiosity about them was only piqued after young Kylie Jenner made one of Forbes billionaire lists so I checked out her Instagram account.

by EmmaZahn on Thu, 08/20/2020 - 1:57pm

Oh I did think of it immediately when I saw the ad. I posted the ad elsewhere here and I did not bring that part of it up but I thought of it immediately. It's a Fox News thing, the Fox News babes still dress and look like 80's streetwalkers. To a certain cohort how she's dressed signals I am a Republican woman, this is how we dress, sexy not dowdy harridans like Democrats. And it's Republican red she's wearing.

This interestingly intersects with how a lot of black female pop stars dress. (It even goes to the recent controversy over the video by Cardi B and Megan The Stallion, WAP or Wet Ass Pussy") The tinge of irony with which most do it keeps it separate from the Fox News babes ethos. But in all reality, they are dressing the same. It's a female sex as power thing. The red she's wearing reads as "hot babe" in ghetto world, not Republican red.

And again, interestingly, Kamala Harris does a little of this but more professionalized and less 80's ho. She does the spike heels and the form fitting clothes and professionalizes it with a jacket and less 80's.(though lately I notice she's toned it down.) Nancy Pelosi, likewise, does a little of it, professionalized and toned down. The spike heels, form fitting clothes, Melania strut.

The intersection of the two worlds of female image-Republican and ghetto-I think that is something the ad producer is playing with here.

Kanye's ethos fits here somewhere! And the whole Kardashian thing, well that's the whol reality show world which includes Trump on The Apprentice and Trump now. And a lot of Fox News talk shows, come to think of it...

(Edit for word correction)

by artappraiser on Thu, 08/20/2020 - 11:19am

Here's where I posted the ad earlier on my blog entry

http://dagblog.com/comment/287231#comment-287231

and of course rmrd saw it as if I was promoting her and perhaps thinking I was predicting she's win, so he felt the need to prosletyze for who she's running against, seeing the political in everything someone posts, as usual. When what I was trying to do is to point to what was going on with this ad, what her GOP donors were helping her sell.

(I am so sick of being trolled into that, I can't tell you. My point of any participation here is to get more into the kind of analyis we are doing here. I don't wish to politick and especially don't wish to defend the GOP but to analyze what they are doing.)

by artappraiser on Thu, 08/20/2020 - 11:17am

Baltimore Sun thinks it a scam

Align Kamala up with the ghetto *and* streetwalker?

(all black people look alike? She's close enough to Harris...

certainly isn't communicating to her potential constituency -

and anyway she lost 3:1 in the 7th a few months ago,

so she's an obvious sacrificial lamb)

https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-0820-klacik-trump-20200819-eaanec6dsfh2zkz6tift6lg45i-story.html

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 08/20/2020 - 11:22am

Speaking carefully, Palin replied, “I would not have prostituted myself in terms of changing any of my positions in order to garner better press.” She went on to suggest that she would “gotten a lot better coverage” had she “compromised my convictions,” seeming to imply that Harris has done that, without providing specific examples.

Palin’s comments come shortly after Carlson used his show to spread a sexist smear against Harris that she used a relationship with an older politician to further her own career. - Daily Beast

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 08/20/2020 - 6:21pm

All the Kardashians are a creation of Chris Jenner. She perfected her art with Kylie. ($900 mill when the 1st announced her a billionaire, but that's about $870 more than Donald, so who's quibbling)

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 08/20/2020 - 3:19pm

Speaking of Kylie Jenner and gun violence, dressing like a "ho" and noticing that recently there's some big buzz about a video I haven't watched involving Cardi B and someone named Megan Thee Stallion, I see this story is trending on Twitter, and click on it. Turns out this Megan Thee Stallion says it all happened after a party at Kylie Jenner's house, and it's totally on topic, on all these topics! Even if not true and just bullshit for P.R., it's on topic of guns being part of a revival of "gangsta" culture, also drags in being afraid of the police. Guns are normalized therein. Just part of daily drama, could be an episode of "Housewives of Atlanta". Guns and shooting are just part of an exciting celeb life, you see, as is dressing like a "ho". And whether it came from bottom up or top down, ends up a story in Variety where fame and fortune is recorded, "influencers" get attention there, not struggling folks in the inner city:

Megan Thee Stallion: "Yes, this n---- Tory shot me. You shot me, and you got your publicist and your people to these blogs lying and shit, stop lying" https://t.co/taQnWxIRsI pic.twitter.com/ZNwOYgbA1y
— Variety (@Variety) August 21, 2020

The only thing missing is a Fox News babe covering the story. I am betting there was one, I just didn't go looking for it.

by artappraiser on Fri, 08/21/2020 - 12:38pm

Glad someone's holding up dignity of black people. Maybe can set up some Wet Ass Pussy statues to keep the rights movement going. Even skank lives matter, apparently, no matter how ignorant the behavior. Great charm offensive, girls - you rawk!!!

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 08/21/2020 - 2:28pm

Devil's advocate: just furnishing inspiration for drag queens out of solidarity?

by artappraiser on Fri, 08/21/2020 - 2:49pm

But the bullets - they're over quota on their bullets

by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 08/23/2020 - 9:27pm

Tight red dress and spike heels appears to be a professional power signifier in certain circles, go figure:

New Firm Alert!

I am excited to announce I am now the managing partner of ELG Atlanta! I will continue to serve as the Head of Litigation in all of our offices. We will be keeping both our Jax offices and opening a South FL office in addition to our ATL office. Please RT! pic.twitter.com/FMdxmlrP7m
— Jess, JD, MBA (@jessica_esquire) August 24, 2020

by artappraiser on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 1:06am

Someone call Julia Roberts - we got a remake - "Pretty Woken" - with that song "Lawyer in Red".

by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 1:54am

"Particularly in light of recent—though not novel—unrest, at least one of our sibling circuits has recognized that the relentless transformation of qualified immunity into an absolute shield must stop," Judge Carlos Lucero (Clinton) wrote https://t.co/LtC4yWJDi9 pic.twitter.com/DwQvZ3tohH
— Mike Scarcella (@MikeScarcella) August 19, 2020

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 08/20/2020 - 7:39am

.@JoeBiden fact checks Trump on his lies about defunding the police:

"I don't want to defund police departments, I think they need more help ... this is about protecting people, everybody"

"The only guy that actually put in a bill to defund the police is Donald Trump" pic.twitter.com/sFqhUZeLnL
— Mike Gwin (@MichaelJGwin) August 24, 2020

by artappraiser on Sun, 08/23/2020 - 9:20pm

video clip from tonite, the horse's mouth, how he said it (note Kamala is there too) ^^^^^

by artappraiser on Sun, 08/23/2020 - 9:23pm

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