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Ryan: Muslim Ban Doesn't Target Muslims
By NCD on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 4:38pm |President Trump’s order to temporarily halt admission to the U.S. from seven Muslim-majority countries is not a Muslim ban, Republicans in Congress, including aides to House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.), declared Saturday. Ryan was among the first lawmakers on Friday to back Trump’s order. The order also bans refugees from anywhere in the world for 120 days .....“This is not a religious test and it is not a ban on people of any religion,” said AshLee Strong, a spokeswoman for Ryan.
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A Res Ipsa Loquitor tweet:
Not the taxi wait line @ JFK international isn't awesomely long any other time, but that's a whole 'nother thing. It's the thought that counts, I guess.
@ NY Daily News, where they are calling it a "Muslim ban" in print, there's a slideshow of the protests outside JFK
It's like this here, we really don't have a lot of WASP'S left in NYC, and the weird thing is Trump knows it (being from Queens which is sort of like a global immigrant village and also hosts JFK airport):
New York Yemenis stunned by Trump's ban: "I feel like somebody has killed me". Legal residents and green card holders worry that family members left behind – some prevented from boarding flights – have been put in grave danger
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 8:47pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 7:18pm
has a Tweeted video snippet
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 7:32pm
Yes, it's going to be a bumpy ride for President Trump (maybe even bumpier for Speaker Ryan?), attempts at dictatorship make strange bedfellows in this country, so far we're good on everything operating the way the founders intended:
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 8:40pm
Great summary on this, NYT said security experts said the repercussions of this could be very bad, and Iraq, on the list, is our chief ally fighting ISIS along side 5000+ US troops.
by NCD on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 9:25pm
Fed court blocks Trump executive action, bars deportations.
F##k Trump and his hateful lunatic advisors, and his racist phony Christian base.
Bannon Pence and the rest of the Trump puppet masters they want trouble, fear and chaos, they won't stop, they hate America.
by NCD on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 9:56pm
Trump doesn't read or think through the executive orders shoved in front of him.
by rmrd0000 on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 10:06pm
Trump is too vain to wear glasses, they have had to point to where he signs.
by NCD on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 11:39pm
Picture posted on the #stoppresidentbannon Twitter feed:
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/29/2017 - 12:53pm
This sentence from this NYT piece about Syrian refugees in Chicago made me lol:
When the International Refugee Assistance Project put out a call for lawyers to help new arrivals in danger of being turned away, it received 3,000 volunteers in four hours, said Becca Heller, the organization’s director.
Heller suggested this reason, which I am sure is true of many of the calls they are getting:
“People are desperate to help refugees as a way to counter these discriminatory policies,” she said.
BUT I suspect that with many of the lawyers, they are just chomping at the bit to challenge Trump on anything, After all, they chose a career in which the training is Socratic method, and the kind of "thinking" and dialogue he practices is basically antithetical to their being.
Watch him try to fire all the judges now, it wouldn't surprise me. Does he even have a single person in the White House that isn't a "yes man"? His cabinet appointees so far are clueless, I am sure, like deer in the headlights now that they are starting to see what they might have gotten into.
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 10:27pm
"Lions tremble in their dens when Trump signs an executive order".
by NCD on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 11:41pm
"It's not a Muslim ban," Trump told reporters in the Oval Office as he signed several executive orders."It's working out very nicely. You see it at the airports, you see it all over," he added.
In case anyone else wondered if the point of the ban might just be to provoke civil unrest and even possibly a terrorist response, the above quote is not reassuring.
Enough with the mobs already. So far we still have checks and balances and another election in a few months.
by EmmaZahn on Sun, 01/29/2017 - 9:49am
See More and More Shrinks say Trump Exhibits Traits of Mental Illness.
Try to convince me that if 10 demonstrators, or 10 of the airport detainees, were last seen taken away handcuffed by 'agents with unknown badges' in a black van, and their bodies were later found in the East river, that Trump supporters, Comey's FBI or Republican leadership would not still back this administration 100%.
by NCD on Sun, 01/29/2017 - 10:45am
Good piece, Kuntzman did a good job. I believe these quotes are the way this issue has to be addressed if it is to do any good: rhetoric from political opponents is easily dismissed; it's the water of the very swamp the President says he wants to drain and Let me be clear: This is not an attack on Trump's policies.
Edit to add: here's artappraiser practicing psychology without a license, just mho: his disorder explains this viral video of Melania at the inauguration.
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/29/2017 - 11:32am
Will she be as faithful as Nancy when he winds up like Ronnie in his latter days?
by NCD on Sun, 01/29/2017 - 1:12pm
Off topic: This strikes me as a wonderful comment to send to all masters of the universe considering a trophy wife. It's not always an either/or situation but still one should think: obedient golddigger vs. true devotion?
Back on topic, maybe: this June 2016 article on Trump's Scottish immigrant mom is at the top of the "most popular" list at The New Yorker right now.
Among the interesting points: She took more than one transatlantic trip before settling in New York, in the thirties. On at least two ship manifests and in the 1930 census, her occupation is listed as “maid” or “domestic.” and In his 1997 book, “The Art of the Comeback,” Trump praised his mother—and indirectly criticized other women in his life. “Part of the problem I’ve had with women has been in having to compare them to my incredible mother, Mary Trump,” Trump wrote. “My mother is smart as hell.” Trump named a room after his mother at Mar-a-Lago.and “Looking back, I realize now that I got some of my sense of showmanship from my mother,” Trump wrote in his 1987 book, “The Art of the Deal.”
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/29/2017 - 1:36pm
I read that while hopping around there this morning. Orwell's "1984" and Trump's America is also quite good ... consider the question often asked, "Why do people vote against their own interests?" Perhaps this:
by barefooted on Sun, 01/29/2017 - 2:34pm
I hadn't read it, thanks for recommending it, quite thought provoking
Yes ideological fervor turns people off to the point they would vote against their own interests
Wish he would have thrown Kafka in there, know he fits somehow
Agree that the women's march was effective. Why? because not ideological and not violent, just "mad as hell and not going to take it anymore" for many different reasons? Also populist! populism vs. populism would work in this situation.The demagogue(s) at a loss which populi to pander to. Hence, Trump just wants so badly for everyone to confirm his inaugural crowd was HUGE, it not only hurts his ego but confuses him that it wasn't and that the women's marches were. Seems to me like: any relatively spontaneous bottom-up reaction (i.e., TWitter theme going viral) will hit hard and anything too planned and ideological would be counter-productive.
I also want to say I have this instinctive feeling that lower governments calmly and cooly saying: 'this or that is not right, it's not lawful" is the best way to react. They shouldn't ridicule him--that should be the job of pop culture-- but rather just act like the grownups in charge. Not angry or vituperative either. Perhaps it's most important that they are the ones who do not "feed the troll" than the media.
by artappraiser on Mon, 01/30/2017 - 1:17am
According to WaPo, the ACLU is raking in the donations - a silver lining?
by barefooted on Mon, 01/30/2017 - 11:49am