MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
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Shocking list of journalists detained, arrested, attacked or threatened in Egypt
By artappraiser on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 5:22pm |Compiled by ABC’s Erin McGlaughlin and Joanna Suare,
ABC World News with Diane Sawyer, Feb. 3, 2010:
We’ve compiled a list of all the journalist who have been in some way threatened, attacked or detained while reporting in Egypt. When you put it all into one list, it is a rather large number in such a short period of time. (UPDATED - send us more stories if you get them)
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Here's WaPo's announcement of the arrests of their people which I happened to run across--it is on the above list. The New York Times piece, also linked on the list, is a sort of summary roundup.
It's clear they are targeting the worldwide "MSM," and not just via attacks by plainsclothes thugs, but actually arresting reporters from the major western news organizations.
That's absolutely amazing crazy hubris--it's hard to understand what is going on with some minds over there.
Despite that, Christiane Amanpour (who is on the list as having her car attacked yesterday,) got an interview with Mubarak, which is to air on tonight's ABC primetime news. Here is the "Breaking News" video Diane Sawyer did with her today announcing that interview. Amanpour talks a bit about the interview in it.
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CNN's Ben Wederman Tweets:
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 5:34pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 5:38pm
by jollyroger on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 5:57pm
A miracle is what they would need as doom is now guaranteed--this would be the one situation where the rule "all p.r. is good p.r." doesn't apply. Turning the press into an actual physical enemy, is not a wise move as to getting anything near a "fair" hearing.
On Anderson Cooper 360 right now, the State Dept. reporter said it's probably coming from the Egyptian Minister of the Interior, though she said P.J. Crowley at U.S. State wouldn't go that far in the briefing today, he did admit it is probably coming from relatively high up in the Egyptian government, for blackout purposes as to a crackdown
BTW, Cooper and team are broadcasting from an undisclosed hotel room (looks like surbuban Holiday Inn decor) and I saw similar on MSNBC a while ago. Kind of strange, takes the whole PoMo critique on the "on the scene" TV anchorperson to a whole new level--they could as well be in a Poughkeepsie Holiday Inn.
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 10:26pm
Lina Attalah Tweets:
Michael Marten Tweets:
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 5:46pm
You have to give it to those people to get out there in the thick of things in order to get the story. The last few days have been compelling, and even more so because of the reporters and cameramen on the ground.
Last night I was watching Maddow, and Richard Engel and Brian Williams were standing on a balcony high above the square, live-casting, when a white truck drove onto the square and was stopped. The driver was dragged out and beaten on the ground, then thrown into the back of the truck. Both Engle and Williams were shaken, not knowing what was going to happen. Engel was reporting the event second by second, but I could tell he wished he were anywhere but there. I think he honestly thought he was going to see a lynching. He even used the word. He couldn't hide the dread in his voice. They are all a truly gutsy bunch.
I'll be watching Amanpour tonight. She is without doubt one of the best. Thanks for the heads-up.
by Ramona on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 5:52pm
After UC-Davis Professor Noha Radwan spoke to Democracy Now! she was attacked in the streets. “I got attacked by the mob and beaten half to death by the Mubarak thugs, who were happy to snatch my necklaces off my neck and to rip my shirt open,” She credited a junior army officer with saving her life. He ordered his men to shelter her in their tank.
by Donal on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 6:26pm
I admit I wondered if the army arrests mentioned in the NYTimes article and in other instances were actually for protection purposes, as they held them overnight and then let them go. It is chaos, as they have to wonder who really is a bad guy and who is not.
Human Rights Watch people have been targeted, too. Anyone whose job is to give publicity to what is going on.
That Google guy is still missing, has been for quite some time....seems to me Google doesn't want a lot of attention being given to that, for whatever reason.
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 10:33pm
There is a part of me that is sooooooooooooooo very cruel.
Why should not journalists/reporters/kumquats be injured in the reality?
Just once in awhile?
See, I told you there was a part of me that is soooooooooo very cruel!!!
by Richard Day on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 10:35pm
Anderson Cooper (CNN) right now is interviewing the Egyptian state-run TV (Nile TV) anchorwoman, Shahira Amin, who has resigned. (See Reuters' Egyptian state TV anchor resigns over demo coverage.)
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 10:44pm
White House condemns attacks on reporters in Egypt
By David Jackson, USA TODAY, Feb. 3
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A.P. Video, Feb. 3: Clinton Decries Reporter Attacks in Egypt
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 11:11pm
Well what the hell did they expect? It's not like they're in New York City. Their lucky no one decided they wanted the rings on their fingers, because the easiest way to get them off is to cut the fingers off the hand. The authority that kept them all in check is no longer there so tribalism takes precedence...everyone will be out to get what they believe is their due and settle old scores. It ain't no place for westerners. Best to sit back, watch from afar and pass the popcorn as Egypt is being reborn.
by Beetlejuice on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 10:35am
It ain't no place for westerners.
I suspect that
12% of the Egyptian workforce is one tribe that would disagree.
In any case, it stirkes me that you are unintentionally taking the side of the Mubarak regime--that the rest of the world should mind their own business and not show any interest in investigating what is going on there. And you might join with the regime because for whatever reason you have a dislike of western journalists or celebrity journalists. When in fact, a lot of people on that list are not celebrity journalists (and that part of this continuing story today is that Al Jazeera's Cairio office was destroyed.) But the fact that they did bother the celebrity journalists rather than kowtow to them as most dictators would do, shows how brazenly they don't care what the world thinks of what they do to their own people. And that's the real story here, that's what's shocking.
This story is not about defending foreign journalists whining about things, the story is the brazeness and stupidity of the regime. Because yes, like it or not, some of those bigger media people represent real power, the pen eventually being mightier than the sword. Those in the regime that are doing this are stupid, stupid, stupid, pennywise about a few days maybe, but very pound foolish, like jolly roger said upthread, apparently looking for a miracle.
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 2:43pm
P.S. I would like to add that I would never like to see your opinion become standard, that journalists should not be in dangerous zones. or that they should not report it when they are threatened or attacked or arrested in danger zones. It is precisely in these sort of situations that a report from an outsider is most useful.
If it wasn't the case until now, from now on it's going to become the case where we are not going to get any semblance of truth from Tweets from anonymous partisans in war zones. (Already with the Iranian protests you had people fallling for anti-regime tweets coming in English from Iranian expats in California claiming they were in Tehran.) Your going to have to know you're tweeter, and be able to trust him/her, they have to become journalists, they have to have a record that you know, whether it's a blog or a newspaper or a TV station.
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 8:24pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/06/2011 - 3:31pm
Surprise, suprise, some of the disastrous p.r. above must have been noted by the prime minister--some plausible denialibilty in order, especially after that NYT piece:
Journalists have 'full freedom' in Egypt, prime minister says
By the CNN Wire, Feb. 5, 2011
Egyptian PM: Arrests of journalists "not allowed"
By the CNN Wire Staff, Feb. 6, 2011
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/06/2011 - 3:37pm