MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Two explosive devices were found in mail sent to the offices of former President Barack Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, a law enforcement official said Wednesday. The devices were similar to one found on Monday at the home of the billionaire philanthropist George Soros, the official said.
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CNN also got one, offices evacuated in NYC.
Coincidentally, CNN's Jim Acosta just called the White House yesterday to say "someone will get hurt", if Trump doesn't stop attacking the media. He was reacting to Trump's praise (to the cheers of the right wing mob in attendance) of a Montana Republican Congressman assaulting a UK Guardian reporter at a rally in Montana.
Hillary and Obama, are, of course, targets of hate for the GOP Base, directed and encouraged by the President. As is George Soros who also got a bomb in the mail delivered yesterday.
by NCD on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 11:45am
Looks like packages were sent to Eric Holder and Maxine Waters as well
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/24/politics/bill-clinton-hillary-clinton-chappaqua/index.html
Edit to add:
This may be a lone disturbed person, but if the packages were personally placed in mailboxes, it could be more ominous.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 3:54pm
Holder one returned to sender, Deb Schulz, of DNC, backup target.
Trump is in full bombast mode, promising full investigation, while he prepares the next Hate, Fear, Lies and Incitement Rally where he has said:
“They want to turn America, these Democrats — and that’s what they want — into a giant sanctuary for criminal aliens and the MS-13 killers,” or “Democrats want to abolish America’s borders and allow drugs and gangs to pour into our country unabated,” or “Democrats want to … turn us into another Venezuela, take away your health care, destroy your Second Amendment, and Democrats want to throw your borders wide open to deadly drugs and ruthless gangs,”
by NCD on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 4:16pm
Trump is a bully and all I see in his crowds is rage.
Regarding Venezuela, Republicans are in Gubernatorial and legislative control of the poorest states in the United States.
http://www.ncsl.org/Portals/1/Documents/Elections/Legis_Control_100918_26973.pdf
Democrats control 6 of the 10 highest earning states
https://www.theroot.com/republicans-control-the-poorest-states-democrats-contr-1829948803
Nobody in the urban areas wants to become Mississippi or Venezuela
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 4:18pm
Don't go there Daggers...?
President Donald Trump celebrated Republican Rep. Greg Gianforte during a rally in Missoula. Speaking in Montana, Did Donald Trump say:
“Any guy that can do a body slam, he’s my kind of guy,” Trump said at the event as supporters cheered him on. “I had heard that he body-slammed a reporter … and he was way up, and I said, ‘Oh, this is terrible, he’s going to lose the election.’ Then I said, ‘I know Montana pretty well,’ and I said I think it might help him. And it did.”
or:
"Any guy that can do a pipe bomb, he’s my kind of guy" Trump said at the event as supporters cheered him on. "I had heard that he pipe-bombed and I said, ‘Oh, this is terrible, we're going to lose the election.’ Then I said, ‘I know America pretty well,’ and I said I think it might help us."
by NCD on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 3:56pm
Right after the election, trump called people who didn’t vote for him his enemies. He criticized Democrats who didn’t stand for him. He now says that anyone who votes for a Democratic candidate is crazy. The Proud Boys were invited to the Manhattan GOP Club. There are racist ads against the black candidate for Governor in Florida The Republican Gubernatorial candidate in Georgia suggested the need to decrease voter turnout. This is not a both sides do it phenomenon. There is no reason to give them the benefit of the doubt for the tension they created. We need to see where the facts lead in the pipe bomb situation. Republican co-workers are pretty quiet today, but they are still pro-Trump.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 4:11pm
We are hanging over the abyss as a democracy, if not already sliding into it.
50 million or more voters want a racist authoritarian theocracy, by any means available, and they will believe any lie told them, for many, until and even after, the GOP again leads us into an economic collapse.
by NCD on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 4:24pm
The absurd is being normalized. We have a discussion on a daytime show where Megyn Kelly says that wearing blackface was normal at Halloween when she was growing up. She is 47 years old. Blackface wasn’t acceptable. Where in the Hell did she grow up?
She still has a television show!
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 4:46pm
Paul Waldman, "Explosive devices sent to politicians were absolutely predictable", tomorrow AM, Canberra Times (he writes for WaPo and they have his post up now): https://www.canberratimes.com.au/world/north-america/explosive-devices-s...
by AmericanDreamer on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 4:39pm
and: "House Republicans Launch New Anti-Soros Ad After Bomb Attempt on Billionaire Democrat Donor", Will Sommer, Daily Beast, this afternoon: https://www.thedailybeast.com/house-republicans-launches-new-anti-soros-...
by AmericanDreamer on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 4:42pm
Meanwhile our Domestic Terrorism Inciter-in-Chief weighs in mightily:
Such gravitas. Such credibility.
WaPo news story today, "Homemade bombs sent to Clinton, Obama and CNN offices, officials say", Devlin Barrett, Mark Berman and Cleve R. Wootson, Jr.: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/10/24/bomb-sent-bill-hillary-...
by AmericanDreamer on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 4:56pm
Fuck Trump and his fellow travelers
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 5:21pm
These were a false flag op, doncha know, because there is an alternate reality world where snowflakes are the only violent and angry ones, in cahoots with the deep state, and everyone else is civil:
So any outrage about this just reinforces their narrative of victimhood where they are targeted by liberals and incorrectly pegged as angry and violent.
I don't have any answers on how to counteract those willing to buy into the alternate reality. Just pointing out the rationalizations involved.
What I do know is that they will seek out and use any news stories about liberals or elites being nasty or angry or personally confrontative as "proof" for continued delusions. That outrage is definitely viral and a vicious circle.
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 7:41pm
One of the things that drive me nuts about this situation is that the Kayfabe/Kabuki used to amp up partisan hatred can change who is the evil enemy in a New York minute when they really want to:
Granted it will probably not affect someone so amped up as to spend a lot of time building bombs.
But just like Obamamaniacs could stop truly hating Hillary and calling her names that rhyme with witch once the primary was over, even though they had sung that mantra for months. For the vast majority, the kabuki can end at a certain point, quite easily. As not that many are true believers, they are just playing a game. A very ugly game to some with my tastes in politics, but still a game.
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 7:57pm
Here's one example, Republican pollster and expert in focus groups agrees that buyers of "false flag" explanation are most likely loons:
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 8:19pm
Frank Luntz himself is an ole GOP "poison peddler" Driftglass 2016:
3 From the 127 Media Matters link headliners:
Luntz: "Jimmy Carter was the first female president"
Luntz likened Clinton's praise of Alinsky in her senior thesis to praise of "people from Germany in the 1930s and 40s
Luntz on Pelosi: "You get one shot at a facelift. If it doesn't work the first time, let it go"
by NCD on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 8:36pm
In a better world, these extreme partisanship pushing people would all be fired and thereafter could only be employed at minimum wage McJobs. But no, they are all highly paid successful pushers of addictive yellow dialectic and polemic:
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 8:52pm
compare the situation for those who don't sell out to ratings:
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 8:55pm
They certainly jumped on to that bandwagon right quick. The twitchy trigger fingers sort of reveal a sense of shared responsibility for the rhetoric. What a bunch of Raskolnikovs.
by moat on Thu, 10/25/2018 - 2:47pm
A quibble: I believe you are being too kind by using Raskolnikov here, moat.
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/26/2018 - 2:46am
Gosh, I remember when killing old ladies was considered outré.
I need to get my eyebrows plucked and my sensibilities recalibrated.
by moat on Fri, 10/26/2018 - 10:24am
I hope we can again rely on humility, on our need to cooperate, on our dependence on each other to learn how to trust each other again and by so doing better serve the people who elected us. Stop listening to the bombastic loudmouths on the radio and television and the Internet. To hell with them. They don't want anything done for the public good. Our incapacity is their livelihood.
~ John McCain,July 25, 2017 Senate floor speech
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/26/2018 - 2:40am
Shachtman & Krugman exchange thoughts:
Edit to add
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 9:17pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 9:21pm
The ratio of grifting wingnut welfare millionaires to actual reporters must be 1000/1.
If they had TeeVee in ancient Rome the empire would have collapsed 400 years earlier.
by NCD on Wed, 10/24/2018 - 9:40pm
She was sorely tempted of course but got it wrong. Again.
Should have said " I know many decent Republicans will be heart sick at this news."
Give your enemy a "Golden Bridge".
by Flavius on Thu, 10/25/2018 - 10:34am
At this point in the dissolution of American values, shocked Republicans, disgusted Republicans, former Republicans, OK... but a blanket "decent Republicans" without any further qualification? No. It's an oxymoron.
by NCD on Thu, 10/25/2018 - 1:50pm
I don't find the idea of applying a blanket to any group very useful for much of anything, we'd all be much better off doing a whole lot less of that. Socio-political groupings and more particular things like gerrymandering on based on teevee advertising and zip codes for snail mail. The internet allows people to micro-target and be micro-targeted. And from that we're losing actual tribalism and are like substituing fake tribes, many kicking and screaming they want some tribes back, they need to make an enemy. I'd love it if people left it at hate the Packers or root for them, with no inbetween, and the small amounts of violence that come from that. But too many are not satisfied with that, they need to apply their blanket presumptions/stereotypes, outside of sports games, like a blanky.
You can't convince me all registered Republicans think alike, and are the evil incarnate, NCD. I actually know some, and it's not true about them. I think the most effective thing you do is ridicule the worst of them, because then you might embarrass some in the club to try to control their brethren's worst impulses. But when you start of the serious stereotypical labeling of them as a one-thinking Borg, I think that's counterproductive to your own goals. (I.E. "the Jews are responsible!")
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/25/2018 - 4:09pm
There are two major political parties. The Republicans are in control and have leadership that exacerbate s racist tendencies. If you show up for rallies that support that leadership, you cannot expect to be included as a deplorable. When the group as a hole laughs at a Congress critter body slamming a reporter, and your face is on camera, expect condemnation.
Trump rally organizers tend to remove people in the crowd facing cameras who do not share in the joy of the moment.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-montana-rally-people-replaced_us_5b926b14e4b0162f472c5612
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 10/25/2018 - 4:23pm
Republicans at the last Trump rally were yelling “Lock her up” despite knowing about the pipe bomb.Hillary said what needs to be said. They are deplorable.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 10/25/2018 - 11:21am
How do you know those were all registered Republicans? They are Trump fans, they came to see Trump. How about just calling those that chant that "deplorables" plain and simple like Hillary does? Then you could also conveniently lump in the few people who physically attack Republicans like Scalise in the "deplorables" category too. Why does bad behavior always have to be attached to the party rather than just being labeled bad behavior? To break the escalating cycle, attack the behavior, don't smear the whole group.
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/25/2018 - 12:38pm
What escalating cycle is being done by Liberals?
Trump praised a Congressman who attacked a reporter. He said he would pay for bail if his supporters attacked protesters. Proud Boys show up at Republican events.
Eric Holder made clear that he was not talking about violence when he said Democrats need to be strong.
Maxine Waters never encouraged violence
What Democratic Party member encouraged the shooting of Scalise? None
This is not both sides do it
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 10/25/2018 - 12:56pm
You were doing it, right there in the comment. That is all I was addressing: your rhetoric, your use of the language. You like to stereotype.
Edit to add: I see that as little different than Peter ranting about snowflakes. Stereotyping by it's very nature is divisive, an intent to divide.
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/25/2018 - 1:06pm
That you see no difference between peaceful protest (disrupting dinner) and encouraging violence is interesting..
Protest is supposed to be disruptive and make people uncomfortable
Your argument is akin to Trump finding good people on both sides in Charlottesville, or excusing inviting the Proud Boys to a Republican event. There were no good people carrying tiki torches and yelling Neo-Nazi slogans. Those in the crowd laughing along when Trump mimicked the body slam are deplorable.
There is no equivalence.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 10/25/2018 - 1:21pm
I didn't say that anywhere. And no my "argument" is not akin to that, NOT AT ALL. I was commenting on YOUR comment to which I replied. And that is all. A suggestion: if you want to argue with a strawman, give him/her a name and write up the quote you are arguing with.
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/25/2018 - 1:40pm
Have a nice day
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 10/25/2018 - 1:51pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/25/2018 - 2:20pm