MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Who Will Wrest Haiti From the Grip of Gang Rule?
By artappraiser on Sat, 10/16/2021 - 11:39am |
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Hey General Honore, BLM got a solution: survival of the fittest -
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/16/2021 - 1:14pm
oh, hah, this earlier tweet by BLM is hilarious, as who exactly is going to hold anyone accountable if law enforcement is abolished?
their ethos is bascially: rules for thee but not for me, and the kicker: nobody to enforce them.
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/16/2021 - 1:21pm
surprisingly, many moms know in their gut, down on a micro-level, that guns + gangs doesn't work:
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/16/2021 - 1:32pm
The West plundered Haiti.
Natural resources were stolen
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-10-10/the-west-owes-a-centuries-old-debt-to-haiti
by rmrd0000 on Sat, 10/16/2021 - 5:42pm
American Missionaries Kidnapped in Haiti, Officials Say
Up to 17 missionaries and their family members were taken by gangs in the capital of a country where kidnappings have become increasingly common.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/16/world/americas/missionaries-kidnap-haiti.html
by rmrd0000 on Sat, 10/16/2021 - 10:52pm
Serves them right, no? Paybacks?
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 10/17/2021 - 11:54am
It seems that these missionaries are very controversial, to say the least:
Seems hopeless to figure out what's really going on, that's the way it is when things are so lawless.
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/17/2021 - 1:25pm
Madame Boukman also said (or reposted?) in 2020 that Japan sent "radioactive rice" to Haiti with evil motives.
The rice was sent in 2012 (note she was ranting about it in 2020) link. She also claimed in same tweet California rice is poisonous. Japan' response from 2012.
She's seems to be an Infowars like wackjob.
You might check into people you post. You are spreading unsupported defamatory lies from crackpots with unknown, delusional personal agendas. If you care, or can tell the difference, between reasonable and nuts.
by NCD on Sun, 10/17/2021 - 2:28pm
I think you are intelligent enough to handle me posting shit that shows the type of inflammatory lies and arguments that are happening. NO? Your not smart enough to handle that info.? I have to explain why I find it interesting? What I said wasn't enough, that the missionaries obviously are controversial enough to attract the interest of like, Haiti's version of Infowars? That this incident is stirring a lot of shit and here's some examples I'm seeing?
You call it spreading disinfo, I call it trying to figure out what a mess of inflammatory emotional disinfo. Haiti is.
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/17/2021 - 4:55pm
do you really think I believe those missionaries are raping the children like she says?
Is there nowhere one can do this kind of analysis, even little Dagblog with 10 users, one has to censor what one shares because there might be stupid people reading it? The Madam already has 18K+ followers on Twitter. but my sharing on Dagblog the strum and drang she is trying to stir up is going to increase it?
Is discussing Infowars off the table too then? One must never ever talk about what he's up to? Unless it's explained in a pedantic manner like as if to a child? One cannot presume grownups are using this website?
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/17/2021 - 5:08pm
well here's some more. I think it's highly interesting and a important clue to understanding all the conspiracizng that is part and parcel of the Haiti. Where there is no rule of law, a lot more people tend to do that, because they don't know who to trust and they blame anyone that fits their conspiracy theories for the situation they are in.
Plus here, politically conservative missionaries are bearing the blunt of this, from leftists, rather than the other way around! I think all of that is HIGHLY interesting.
Here she's not afraid of basically accusing the NYTimes of lying and covering up, to he, it is western missionaries that a major part of Haiti's problems. She's going to smear them with claims of heinous acts any chance she gets, yes, it is like Infowars of the left, and it must be working or she wouldn't keep doing it.
Clearly, her game is always blame "the west." And hyerbole about evil. Just like a lot of the U.S. left does. Nobody's responsible for their own country because "the west" screwed them 200 years ago (yes I am refering to something else posted on this thread that I am sick of hearing as an excuse, cause "the west" has spent a ton of money on Haiti in the late 20th century and look what's still up there!) or it's CIA meddling or some such.
Hey did anyone ever inform Haiti that they are actually part of The West? Just sayin', maybe one solution is realizing that. And let go of the shit that happened more than 200 years ago might help. Constantly thinking of yourself as hapless dumb victims that don't no nothing bout living in the 21st century might help too?
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/17/2021 - 5:25pm
Gabblog or Dagblog?
by NCD on Sun, 10/17/2021 - 6:18pm
Gabba Gabba Hey!
https://youtu.be/_57MlYta3E4
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 10/17/2021 - 7:15pm
Flogblog
by A Guy Called LULU on Sun, 10/17/2021 - 8:05pm
The missionaries were from an Ohio organization founded by Amish & Mennonites, not your typical roving evangelists:
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/18/2021 - 3:49am
Assassinated President Moise involved with crimes against humanity:
April 22, 2021
Report Finds Haitian Government Complicit in Crimes Against Humanity
Haitian human rights coalition, Harvard clinic release new analysis of state-sanctioned massacres
(April 22, 2021, Port-au-Prince, Haiti; Cambridge, MA) — Three deadly massacres targeting impoverished neighborhoods in Haiti were carried out with Haitian government support and amount to crimes against humanity, according to a report released today by Harvard Law School’s International Human Rights Clinic and the Observatoire Haïtien des Crimes contre l’humanité (OHCCH). The report points to evidence that the gang-led attacks were resourced and supported by state actors, ranging from high-ranking officials in the Moïse administration to the Haitian National Police....
https://hrp.law.harvard.edu/press-releases/report-finds-haitian-governme...
The late Presidentv Moise used gang leader 'Barbecue' in crimes to attack political opposition.
https://insightcrime.org/caribbean-organized-crime-news/jimmy-cherizier-...
There are upwards of 100 gangs in Haiti.
by NCD on Sun, 10/17/2021 - 12:59pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/19/2021 - 1:53pm
bluntly:
Haiti needs rule of law. It has to be desired by the citizens (many African societies finally ahead of them on that, just beginning with making it work.) They'd have to leave behind a culture where one curries favor with whoever has power right now to get food or money or whatever.
Anarchists are full of bullshit, deluded about human nature. Sometimes a grifter or murderer is just a criminal that can't be reformed; we left Freud's ideas behind a long time ago about it all being caused by your childhood.
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/19/2021 - 9:36pm