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    Sid Blumenthal behind fake Al Shabab video

    By jollyroger on Sat, 01/02/2016 - 5:27pm |

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/02/middleeast/al-shabaab-video-trump/
    According to persons purporting to be familiar with the facts, the recently unleashed "^recruitment video" that is alleged to emanate from the al-shabab organization that has already proved itself so adept at mining the Somali diaspora in Minneapolis is a false flag operation tracable to Hillary Clinton. Newsmax is reportedly planning an expose of the truth. Sid Blumenthal and his operatives, on a mission from Hillary, have produced and are disseminating a video which "coincidentally" includes the very Trump moments the allusion to which have brought Hillary so much deserved opprobrium. Come on, Hillary, how dumb do we look?

     

     

     

    *http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/02/middleeast/al-shabaab-video-trump/

    Comments

    Breaking!!!:jTrump tweets accusation acknowleding video is genuine "she gave them the idea"


    by jollyroger on Sat, 01/02/2016 - 5:37pm

    Well of course. How would Muslim leaders living in the Middle East know how to influence Muslims living in the Middle East unless some American gives them ideas?


    by ocean-kat on Sat, 01/02/2016 - 7:33pm

    Well, after Al Shabab saw how a fake video reported by Carly Fiorina was very effective at recruitment of an American terrorist, they just figured , hey, why not give it a go?  What do they have to lose?  


    by CVille Dem on Sat, 01/02/2016 - 6:39pm

    somewhere, truth lies bleeding....


    by jollyroger on Sat, 01/02/2016 - 6:49pm

    I wonder if HRC could be charged with Material Support for Terrorists for starting this rumor that has morphed into an after the fact reality.


    by Peter (not verified) on Sat, 01/02/2016 - 8:43pm

    yes, it's a strict liability crime...you don't need to intend to advance the terrorists' aims...thus,. a check to the holy land foundation for children's shoes has been known to get you indicted (true fact)

     

    Of course, the case would turn upon whether trumps obscenities have been helpful to the recruitm.....never mind.  Case closed.


    by jollyroger on Sat, 01/02/2016 - 9:13pm

    "Come on, Hillary, how dumb do we look?"  - pretty fucking stupid at this point.

    First, Newsmax? Really? (did you leave out the link on purpose?)

    Second, Hillary got blasted for the Sarajevo comment - you think she's sitting around looking for another way to look devious?

    Third, her basic point was "Trump is the poster child for ISIS recruitment" - surely you realize with your law background that that's not supposed to be taken literally, no?

    So despite Trump's call for proof (as if the fucktard that insists there were New Jersey Muslims filmed cheering on 9/11 deserves any proof), there is *NO FUCKING NEED*. Every time a Republican opens his/her shit-disturbing mouth, millions of marginalized people get more reason to feel more marginalized. Not even news anymore.

    Fourth, there have been how many bullshit press releases about Hillary that were walked back since 1991 or so - a quarter century of people claiming she was about to be indicted, had killed this or that person, was hanging dildos on the White House Christmas tree, etc., etc. - yet you run with this stupid bullshit piece within hours after it's announced?

    Larry Hagman called - he wants his initials and penchant for conspiracy mongering & causing trouble back.

    Uh, never mind. I confused a perfect tongue-in-cheek rendition of Hillary paranoia with actual Hillary paranoia. (Note to JR: "purported to be acquainted with the facts" or however you put it can apply to most media, commentators and political analysts - the stuff that comes out despite their supposed education and/or experience is the stuff of legends. 2016 - the year humor jumped the shark.

    Never Mind.

     


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 01/03/2016 - 1:20pm

    Precious Blood of the Sweet Baby Jesus, do I have to add an Onion byline?  Good Grief, Desi!  Take out your secret irony decoder ring, (which you have clearly left in your sock drawer), put it on your middle finger, and then go to the mirror and salute yourself for excessive credulity.


    by jollyroger on Sun, 01/03/2016 - 12:18pm

    Here's a hint:"Persons  purporting to be familiar with the facts..."--that's not even a weasely anonymous attribution, it's a weasely anonymous attribution with a great big trap door for the magician to drop through!

     Sheesh!


    by jollyroger on Sun, 01/03/2016 - 12:22pm

    In an amusing sidebar, Trump supporters can be heard denying the authenticity of the video on today's Face the Nation broadcast (hey!  Don't blame me!)


    by jollyroger on Sun, 01/03/2016 - 12:24pm

    Way too subtle - my response updated / struck from the record, but sheesh, most political commentary I see can be described as a "weasely anonymous/on-the-record attribution with a great big trap door [of unreality] for the magician to drop through". The Onion and Tom Tomorrow *ARE* the gold standards these days. When Dan Burton was firing bullets through pumpkins to prove conspiracy theories, most people thought he was a bit unhinged - nowadays he'd be the adult in the room.


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 01/03/2016 - 1:14pm

    To deconstruct with perhaps too much granularity, the standard usage is "persons familiar with the facts".  I have not yet heard the telltale "purporting", which would so thoroughly undermine a story's credibility that no editor could possibly let it get by.


    by jollyroger on Sun, 01/03/2016 - 1:21pm

    Your impression of the professionalism of editors is at least 10-15 years retro.


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 01/03/2016 - 5:34pm

    I wonder why you and other HRC cheerleaders are so intent on papering over her vile past and projecting this fabricated image of the Great Liberal Leader. It seems to me much of her support comes from people who admire her willingness to and habit of employing cesspool politics and her blood soaked record on gleefully raining hellfire down on Muslims.

    If you take away those powerful if deranged traits there is little left to support so this image whitewashing must be aimed at the naive   young Liberal voters who are easily led by images and PR not by knowledge.


    by Peter (not verified) on Sun, 01/03/2016 - 12:51pm

    You talkin' to me...?


    by jollyroger on Sun, 01/03/2016 - 1:07pm

    NO, my comment was responding to PP.


    by Peter (not verified) on Sun, 01/03/2016 - 8:25pm

    Well, see what you think is "vile" and "projecting" and "blood-soaked". As long as you think she's the Antichrist, it's not much use having a sane discussion with you, is it.


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 01/04/2016 - 1:46am

    HRC has consistently, publicly shown everyone for years what she is and who she represents and she doesn't deserve any capitalized or supernatural descriptions, she displays the common characteristics of a political creature and little beyond that even with the best PR grooms available.

    Those who advocate for her know these facts and must deny and deflect to promote their compromised but arrogant championing of this morally hollow, self righteous  and power hungry woman. The only thing to discuss is why many people are so compromised that they arrogantly advocate for this dangerous woman.

    I can understand and even appreciate those who say they will vote for her 'because' they fear Trump while admitting this is LOTE rationalizing not based on supporting HRC's lesser evil but those people who advocate for her while denying her true nature are what frightens me.


    by Peter (not verified) on Mon, 01/04/2016 - 11:44am

    You realize that just repeating bullshit doesn't make it actually true, right?

    Obviously people go and hear Hillary and come away with more than some political animal, or her support would be around 0, right? or you just think all those sheeple are stupider than you to not recognize the obvious? and then why Hillary and not Trump or Ted Cruz or Putin or ISIS? I mean, so much evil to go around, why is her brand so strong?

    So to support Hillary, millions must be in denial, deflecting reality, compromised, arrogant, and fans of morally hollow & power hungry people. You are a real f*****, aren't you? I suppose you can look in her eyes and see her evil/lack of a soul - maybe you & W should get a room - you can discuss Gogol/Dead Souls and talentless painting.

     


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 01/04/2016 - 12:14pm

    I couldn't expect a reasonable response to a historically verified and accurate description of HRC or her advocates and i admit my comment was antagonistic but reason doesn't seem to penetrate into this realm of deceit and denial.

    I avoid looking into the eyes of political creatures because there is nothing there but the Void and the Void stares back.


    by Peter (not verified) on Mon, 01/04/2016 - 1:22pm

    You have given up. Every option is hopeless, according to you. Why should people even try?

    It comes across as the views of a movie critic who dislikes every movie, but can create nothing of value.


    by rmrd0000 on Mon, 01/04/2016 - 1:32pm

    Psychiatric help might to fix it. Either that, or funnel it into a screenplay - "The Void - no one can escape it's gaze" 


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 01/04/2016 - 4:18pm

    Psychiatric help might to fix it

     

    A little more acid, son, take a little more acid.


    by jollyroger on Mon, 01/04/2016 - 5:00pm

    Also, more cowbell....


    by jollyroger on Mon, 01/04/2016 - 5:07pm

    Did you watch the Benghazi hearings?  She wasn't half bad.


    by jollyroger on Mon, 01/04/2016 - 5:06pm

    From what i read about this charade it was a staged bit of theater aimed at covering up the crimes committed at Benghazi while satisfying the Republican's desire to highlight the minutia of HRC's actions or lack of actions before, during and after the attack.  Both sides were in total agreement and supported what was happening at Benghazi and keeping that information from the US public even though the locals in Benghazi were well aware of exactly what was happening there.

    During one of the first Republican hearings on Benghazi they unintentionally exposed the truth about the Benghazi compounds, there was no consulate, it was a CIA operation and it was soon disclosed that it was the location of the base of the illegal arms ratline to vetted Syrian rebels through Turkey. Amb. Stevens was apparently also acting as CIA station chief, which is also illegal, and was killed in the middle of his operation.

     


    by Peter (not verified) on Tue, 01/05/2016 - 2:02pm

    a little too "meta"--The Kevin McCarthy distillation (meant to tank her ratings) is still operative, and she did ok on the stand.

     


    by jollyroger on Tue, 01/05/2016 - 2:14pm

    Since when do Liberal Democrats listen and respond to the 'Vast Right Wing Conspiracy' in the way the Right Wing hopes they will, they use any attacks such as Benghazi as fundraising tools and apple polish.

    When HRC faces Trump in real debates  we may see just how well she can defend her actions on the stand.


    by Peter (not verified) on Tue, 01/05/2016 - 4:44pm

    "When HRC faces Trump in real debates  we may see just how well she can defend her actions on the stand."

    You have GOT to be kidding!  


    by CVille Dem on Thu, 01/07/2016 - 3:40pm

    If we get to see this cage fight  it won't be the canned, staged, preprogrammed BS we are used to being fed. Trump knows a lot about the Clintons and their seedy past which should produce interesting public discussions. He has already warned her about her pathological lying.


    by Peter (not verified) on Thu, 01/07/2016 - 3:58pm

    And Trump, that paragon of virtue, would be just the guy to do it.


    by Ramona on Thu, 01/07/2016 - 4:06pm

    Peter (not verified) appears to have been taken in by the highly produced ersatz schtarker that graces his tv in The Apprentice.

    Trump isn't even a schmuck, he is merely a putz

    apologies for all the yiddish vernacular, it leaked over from the other thread.

     

    Trump! Fleet of foot, fast of wit...as if!

     

    I'm not sure what debates Peter (not verified) has been watching, but Trump didn't show me shit.


    by jollyroger on Thu, 01/07/2016 - 5:40pm

    Ease up on the schmaltz JR you need to pace yourself, this is going to be a long bloody circus.

    The Donald of the past never impressed me as anything but a rich prick but he has become an unexpected, needed and potent emetic flushing all the PC constipation from the body politic Republican and Democrat and the rubes are loving it.

    This is going to be fun so enjoy it while you can.


    by Peter (not verified) on Thu, 01/07/2016 - 6:36pm

    the rubes are loving it. This is going to be fun so enjoy it while you can.

    In  any universe where justice was my reward, I should go to hell for this, but as I wasch this Nuremberg  Burlington  Rally, I feel a shadow on my grave.

    You are right


    by jollyroger on Thu, 01/07/2016 - 7:59pm

    She's been dealing with assholes from the stand for 20 years.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/hillary042698.htm


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 01/07/2016 - 4:09pm

    "It's kind of interesting that this didn't happen until Hitlery brought it up in a speech! Maybe Soros paid for it to be produced!"

     

    Actual comment from the real *Newsmax story which did NOT claim that Sid Blumenthal, etc...You can't make this up--I know, I tried and apparently failed!

     

     

    *http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Trump-Muslim-ban-al-qaida-ISIS/2016/01/...


    by jollyroger on Sun, 01/03/2016 - 12:43pm

    More from the comment section...Life imitates art (groan)

     

    Would it surprise anyone if the video was made or paid for by the DNC or the hillary campaign? 13 •Share › Avatar KenH Sarge • a day ago I think Rush or someone else predicted a video like this would mysteriously emerge in an attempt to discredit Trump. I would not put it pasts the low down Dems. 12 •Share › Avatar OldVet'sTwoCents KenH • a day ago It was Rush. 5 •Share › − Avatar FlyLow OldVet'sTwoCents • a day ago I beat Rush on this one! But I have listened to Rush since 1988. We think alike. 1 •Share › Avatar Skipsart KenH • 8 hours ago Produced and funded by the Clinton Foundation •Share ›


    by jollyroger on Sun, 01/03/2016 - 12:50pm

    But wait, Hitlery or That 9-year-old Jewish fifth column Soros? Too many leftist Marxist villains, not enough column space.


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 01/04/2016 - 4:31pm

    I DO want to award two  2.3 style points to the drooling cheeto muncher who coined HITlery....


    by jollyroger on Mon, 01/04/2016 - 5:05pm

    Well if CUTlery is our forks & knives at the table, HITlery would be something a Clockwork Orange-style gang takes to work someone over? Guess that's brownshirts, so it all fits together.


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 01/05/2016 - 1:26am

    May we pause to savor the delicious irony that any of these lumpenproletariat reichsfodder might be heard to bleat a complaint about looming "facism".


    by jollyroger on Tue, 01/05/2016 - 1:30am