[Benghazi investigation thread] US drones fly over Benghazi; firing on them by militants causes airport to shut

By artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:33pm |

By Hadeel Al Shalchi, Reuters, September 14, 2012

[....] The closure of the airport prompted speculation that the United States was deploying special forces in preparation for an attack against the militants who were involved in the attack.

A Libyan official said the spy planes flew over the embassy compound and the city, taking photos and inspecting locations of radical militant groups who are believed to have planned and staged the attack on the U.S. consulate on Tuesday.

Militants used anti-aircraft guns to fire at the drones, forcing the authorities to shut the airport because they feared for the safety of passenger planes.

"Two American drones flew over Benghazi last night with knowledge of the Libyan authorities," Deputy Interior Minister, Wanis al-Sharif told Reuters.

"They were visible to the eye, and came under attack by anti-aircraft weapons used by armed militias."

"For this reason, Benghazi security decided to close down the Benghazi airport air space. Any decision to allow an operation of any sort on Libya soil will be made in coordination with the congress and the new government." [....]

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Libyan officials: US drones behind airport closure
By Osama Alfitory, Associated Press, September 14, 2012

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/14/film-protests-libya-airport-idUSL5E8KEFHW20120914

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Military Hangs Back as FBI Hunts Benghazi Killers
By Spencer Ackerman, DangerRoom @ wired.com, September 13, 2012

Marines are on the ground in Tripoli. Two Navy ships are speeding toward Libyan waters. And neither they, nor the rest of the U.S. military, are involved in fulfilling President Obama’s pledge to bring the perpetrators of Tuesday’s lethal assault on a U.S. consulate to justice.

The military is staying out of the hunt, at least for now. Although it initially appeared Wednesday that Gen. Carter Ham, the commander of U.S. forces in Africa, would play a leading role in commanding a force for those responsible for killing four U.S. diplomats in Libya, the Defense Department is limiting its role in Libya to securing the embassy and protecting remaining U.S. nationals in the country.

The search will be spearheaded by the FBI, as is the case with many investigations overseas involving harm done to U.S. nationals, such as the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia. [....]

by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:38pm

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by artappraiser on Sun, 09/16/2012 - 10:17pm

Attack by Fringe Group Highlights the Problem of Libya’s Militias
By David D. Kirkpatrick, Suliman Ali Zwya and Kareem Fahim, New York Times, September 16, 2012

CAIRO — Ansar al-Sharia, the brigade of rebel fighters that witnesses say led the attack on the United States diplomatic mission in Benghazi, holds that democracy is incompatible with Islam. It has paraded the streets with weapons calling for an Islamic state, and a few months ago its leader boasted publicly that its fighters could flatten a foreign consulate.

But if the group’s ideology may put it on the fringe of Libyan society, its day-to-day presence in society does not. It is just one of many autonomous battalions of heavily armed men formed during and after the uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi who have filled the void in public security left by his fall, resisting calls to disarm by saying that the weak transitional government is not up to the job.

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by artappraiser on Sun, 09/16/2012 - 7:33am

Libyan parliamentary speaker hints at military strike after consulate attack
By Chris Stephen in Benghazi, guardian.co.uk, 16 September 2012 10.22 EDT

Magariaf confirms US officials intercepted communications that linked al-Qaida in Maghreb to Islamist brigade Ansar al-Sharia

The president of Libya's parliament, Mohamed al-Magariaf, has said military action is being considered against militants blamed for the killing of the US ambassador Chris Stevens.

Magariaf also confirmed reports from Washington that US officials intercepted communications discussing the planned attack on the UN consulate in Benghazi, which he said linked al-Qaida in the Maghreb to an Islamist brigade, Ansar al-Sharia. "Yes, that happened," he said.

Magariaf said the intercepts matched other evidence indicating members of the brigade took part in Tuesday's all-night assault on the compound and an accommodation site. "It seems there is a division within Ansar al-Sharia about this attack, some for participation, some against," he said. "We are in the process of investigation."

Such transmissions would be powerful evidence linking al-Sharia to the attack, and [....]

by artappraiser on Sun, 09/16/2012 - 8:57pm

Libyan Militia Blamed for Attack on U.S. Consulate Denies Responsibility
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK, The Lede @ nytimes, September 19, 2012

CAIRO — Mohammad Ali al-Zahawi, commander of the Libyan brigade believed to have led the assault on the American mission in Benghazi, on Tuesday made his first public statement since the attacks, telling the BBC’s Arabic language news channel that his group was not responsible for the assault and had no ties to Al Qaeda. Nor, he said, did it have ties to other groups that might share its name, Ansar al-Sharia, which means simply Supporters of Islamic Law.

Having taken up arms during the revolt against Colonel Qaddafi, Mr. Zahawi, 44, insisted in the Arabic-language interview that the brigade needed to hold on to its weapons because of the continuing uncertainty about Libya’s future. “We are in a battle with the liberals, the secularists and the remnants of Qaddafi,” he said, relaxing in a Western-style shirt and jeans in the brigade’s fortified compound. “Our brave youths will continue their struggle until they impose Sharia.”

In another interview, published by Foreign Policy, Mr. Zahawi told the Irish Times correspondent Mary Fitzgerald: “We cannot exclude the hand of the Qaddafi loyalists,” in the attack. “Everything is possible in this case.”

In his interview with the BBC, Mr. Zahawi acknowledged taking part in the destruction of shrines and graves revered by Sufi Muslims [....]

by artappraiser on Fri, 09/21/2012 - 4:03am

Clinton fails to convince Republicans on administration's account of Libya attack
By Julian Pecquet, The Hill, 09/20/12 06:15 PM ET

Republican lawmakers left a closed-door briefing with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other officials on Thursday still unconvinced by the administration's assessment that last week's attack that killed four Americans in Libya wasn't a premeditated act of terrorism.

“They're trying to cover their behinds,” Rep. Bill Flores (R-Texas) told The Hill upon leaving the House briefing with Clinton, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and Deputy Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter. Asked if they were successful, he said: “No.”

On the Senate side, things were no different according to Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) “That is the most useless worthless briefing I have attended in a long time,” shortly after the administration officials made their case to the upper chamber.

“I really think they hurt themselves tremendously from the standpoint of trying to build trust," he told reporters. “It, if anything, built far greater distrust in what’s happening than in answering questions. It was pretty unbelievable.”

For his part, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said the information provided to lawmakers on Thursday was nothing new and that lack of information has become a trend with the White House.

"From this administration, I have never gotten information that I have not seen or heard before," McCain said. Including Thursday's Libya briefing, the White House has maintained "a perfect record" in that regard, he added. [....]

by artappraiser on Fri, 09/21/2012 - 4:10am

Peculiar - I thought even Libya's government said for some time this was a premeditated militia attack, that they hit Stevens at a safe house away from the consulate which had to have been coordinated with inside info, that they came in after the gathering started at the consulate. (I was glad to see the Deputy Interior Minister resigned along with several others, after he put all the blame on the Americans for not handling security or just going home)

Ah well, I'll wait for the book after November.

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 09/21/2012 - 6:08am

I agree we have lots of pecularity on this story, that's why I keep posting all the conflicting accounts I see, and yeah, I also agree that it might be prudent to wait for the book version after November. I'm not entirely convinced, if what you meant by after November, is that it's all about holding back because of election damage. I suspect that they are not sure what happened and hence the floood of intel-related activities. Meantime, Hillary just gives Congress the standard State Dept blather like a daily press briefing, and that pisses the GOP off. But they are doing that because they still don't know for sure what happened and therefore can't use better quality spin? I think if they knew for sure she would have given better, more passionate spin, but has to be careful because she doesn't know enough what the real deal is yet?

The Lede's post on the Ansar Al Sharia guy doing a PR campaign was an extra special "peculiar." If they had just done one denial statement or one interview it would be one thing, the standard for this kind of group, whether involved with attack or not, but this guy is going all out to persuade. He really really doesn't want to be associated with this attack, and is fighting an info war against someone trying to pin it on them. Or perhaps trying to disassociate the group from some renegade associates?

by artappraiser on Fri, 09/21/2012 - 2:47pm

"November" just means it's in no one's interest to dig into details, whether on Libyan situation or turn in Afghanistan war. I don't blame them - the Republicans certainly wouldn't be interested in truth, just their own weird detached spin. I do think Hillary has better intel than that, but I certainly don't mind her pissing off the GOP.

Re: Al Sharia, I think he has an idea the US is going to come down like a ton of bricks, and he doesn't want to hold the bag. It's a big desert, not much place to hide. I think an Iraqi or Afghani-style insurrection will be much harder to pull off in Libya once the Yanks are involved.

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 09/21/2012 - 5:11pm

Deadly Attack in Libya Was Major Blow to C.I.A. Efforts
By Eric Schmitt, Helene Cooper and Michael S. Schmidt, New York Times, September 23/24, 2012

WASHINGTON — The attack in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans has dealt the Central Intelligence Agency a major setback in its intelligence-gathering efforts at a time of increasing instability in the North African nation.

Among the more than two dozen American personnel evacuated from the city after the assault on the American mission and a nearby annex were about a dozen C.I.A. operatives and contractors, who played a crucial role in conducting surveillance and collecting information on an array of armed militant groups in and around the city.

“It’s a catastrophic intelligence loss,” said one American official who has served in Libya and who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the F.B.I. is still investigating the attack. “We got our eyes poked out.” [....]

by artappraiser on Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:36am

Clinton Sees Link to Qaeda Offshoot in Deadly Libya Attack
By STEVEN LEE MYERS and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT, New York Times, September 26/27, 2012

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton indicated for the first time on Wednesday that there was an explicit link between the Qaeda franchise in North Africa and the attack at the American diplomatic mission in Libya that killed four Americans, including the ambassador, J. Christopher Stevens.

She also said American intelligence and law enforcement agencies were working not only with Libya but also with other nations in the region to investigate the attack in Benghazi on Sept. 11. That indicated that the attack’s planning and execution might not have been the local, spontaneous eruption of violence that the administration had initially described.

Mrs. Clinton made her remarks at a special United Nations meeting on the political and security crisis in the swath of North Africa known as the Maghreb and the Sahel, a crisis that is particularly affecting northern Mali [....]

by artappraiser on Wed, 09/26/2012 - 6:22pm

Security Fears Hobble Inquiry of Libya Attack
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK, ERIC SCHMITT and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT, New York Times, September 27, 2012

BENGHAZI, Libya — Sixteen days after the death of four Americans in an attack on a United States diplomatic mission here, fears about the near-total lack of security have kept F.B.I. agents from visiting the scene of the killings and forced them to try to piece together the complicated crime from Tripoli, more than 400 miles away.

Investigators are so worried about the tenuous security, people involved in the investigation say, that they have been unwilling to risk taking some potential Libyan witnesses into the American Embassy in Tripoli. Instead, the investigators have resorted to the awkward solution of questioning some witnesses in cars outside the embassy, which is operating under emergency staffing and was evacuated of even more diplomats on Thursday because of a heightened security alert.

“It’s a cavalcade of obstacles right now,” said a senior American law enforcement official who is receiving regular updates on the Benghazi investigation and who described the crime scene, which has been trampled on, looted and burned, as so badly “degraded” that even once F.B.I. agents do eventually gain access “it’ll be very difficult to see what evidence can be attributed to the bad guys.” [....]

by artappraiser on Fri, 09/28/2012 - 5:19am

In statement, spy chief’s office defends evolving accounts of Benghazi attack, cites shifting intelligence

By Greg Miller, Washington Post, September 28, 7:14 PM

The office of the nation’s spy chief issued a statement Friday defending the Obama administration’s accounts of the siege on a U.S. mission in Libya, saying it became clear only in the aftermath that it was “a deliberate and organized terrorist attack.”

The statement appeared aimed at quieting criticism, mostly from Republicans, of the administration’s shifting characterizations of a Sept. 11 assault that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans. Officials initially described the attack as spontaneous but in recent days have said it was an act of terrorism with links to al-Qaeda.

The release from the office of Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. came as lawmakers sought more details about the siege in Benghazi. The Senate Foreign Relations Committee sent a letter to the State Department on Thursday posing questions about intelligence in the period leading up to the attack and the adequacy of the security at U.S. compounds.

Shawn Turner, a spokesman for Clapper, said U.S. agencies have altered their assessments based on intelligence that has emerged through an ongoing investigation [....]

by artappraiser on Fri, 09/28/2012 - 10:26pm

Taken with the above, this piece from a couple of days ago

Clinton Suggests Link to Qaeda Offshoot in Deadly Libya Attack
By STEVEN LEE MYERS (David D. Kirkpatrick contributed reporting from Benghazi, Libya, and Michael S. Schmidt and Eric Schmitt from Washington.)
New York Times, September 26/27, 2012

with a bit of a roundup of who said what when, has pretty much convinced me that the Obama administration approaches Libya not trusting any side there. There were a lot of different simplistic political advantages to screaming "al Qaeda" right away, but they didn't until they had a bit more time to sort more things out.

by artappraiser on Sat, 09/29/2012 - 3:10am

U.S. Said to Be Preparing Potential Targets Tied to Libya Attack
By Eric Schmitt, New York Times, October 2, 2012

WASHINGTON — The American military’s top-secret Joint Special Operations Command is preparing detailed information that could be used to kill or capture some of the militants suspected in the attack last month in Libya that killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans, senior military and counterterrorism officials said on Tuesday.

Preparing the “target packages” is the first step in a process that the Pentagon and Central Intelligence Agency are taking in preparation for, and in advance of, any orders from President Obama and his top civilian and military advisers to carry out action against those determined complicit in the attack on the United States Mission in the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi.

[...]

It remained unclear precisely how many of the “target packages” are being prepared — perhaps a dozen or more — but military and counterterrorism officials said that the Libyan authorities had identified several suspected assailants based on witness accounts, video and other photographs from the scene.

“They are putting together information on where these individuals live, who their family members and their associates are, and their entire pattern of life,” said one American official who has been briefed on the target planning now under way. [...]

by artappraiser on Tue, 10/02/2012 - 5:54pm

Reading the tea leaves of the Libya congressional hearings
by Paul Mutter, Arabist.net, October 15, 2012

The Amazing Story of What Happened in Libya
By Garance Franke-Ruta, The Atlantic, October 16, 2012

Before you watch the foreign-policy portion of the presidential debate Tuesday, you must read the State Department's riveting tale of heroism in Benghazi.

by artappraiser on Tue, 10/16/2012 - 2:22pm

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