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    Black Kids Have Heard Enough Whining - It's Time To Inspire Them To Reach For Their Full Potential

    Beneath the Spin * Eric L. Wattree
     
    Black Kids Have Heard Enough Whining - It's Time To Inspire Them To Reach For Their Full Potential
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    I’ve been so aggressively out front in my criticism of Tavis Smiley and Cornel West that I decided that I needed to draft a formal statement explaining why I’ve embraced this issue so passionately - and by the way, I could also add Boyce Watkins to this mix, but he’s so anxious to play with the big dogs that at this point he might consider it a compliment.

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    The primary problem that I have with Tavis and West has nothing to do with their criticism of President Obama, as they would have the world believe is the motivation of anyone who disagrees with them. The problem that I have with them is their selfishness and hypocrisy. They have a single-minded agenda of promoting their own interest at the expense of the Black community.
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    In addition, I’m sick to death of so-called brothers who engage in and promote Black-on-Black hatred (bligotry). That’s been a blight on the Black community for over 400 years, so it’s past time for us to bring it to an end once and for all.
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    So it’s both sickening, and embarrassing , that these so-called “brothers,” who profess to be enlightened intellectuals, are so steeped in hatred that they fail to recognize the historical stupidity of their behavior. Yeah, I know - “They’re merely speaking truth to power.” The only problem with that claim is that they seem to have only found their tongues after George W. Bush and Dick Cheney left office.
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    Smiley,West, and their supporters are suffering from a serious case of projection. They’re so fixated on the politics of Obama-hating that they’re completely oblivious to the gross stupidity of their behavior, and they insist that anyone who’s critical of them is merely an Obama cheerleader or defender, but that’s simply not the case. When my son and daughter were teenagers they had a phrase that perfectly summed up the allegations of these people - they’re stuck on stupid.
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    Their criticism of Obama has absolutely nothing to do with the Black community’s growing antipathy towards these two. An ever-increasing number of Black people are critical of Tavis and West because we see them for what they are - snake-oil-selling  demagogues - and we consider their behavior self-serving, counterproductive, and detrimental to the Black community - period.
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    Young Black people have heard enough whining. They need to be educated about who they are and what they represent, and then inspired to reach for their full potential. That's what the community should be focused on - that, and educating the community to be more politically astute in order to more effectively promote our political agenda.

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    Of course we should hold President Obama accountable, just like we would any other politician, but it's absolutely ridiculous to go out of one's way to slander the most powerful role model that our young people have in the world today. We shouldn't even have to tell that to anyone who professes to be an intellectual, and if we do, both their motives, and intellectual credentials, should automatically be suspect. Common sense 101.

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    But Smiley and West are so fixated on their own self-interest that they’re completely ignoring that fact, and I suspect there are several reasons for that. First, they’re seeking the fame and fortune of being seen as the primary spokesmen for the Black community. Secondly, they have an intense hatred for Obama fueled by jealousy, envy, and the feeling that they’ve been snubbed. And finally, since Barack Obama has completely overshadowed them as president, their egos demand that they try to ride into history on his coattail as the people who "forced" Obama to do right by the people, which, of course, is ridiculous.
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    So their actions have absolutely nothing to do with the poor; it’s all about promoting their own self-interest and soothing the pain of their wounded egos at the expense of the Black community. It's disgusting that millions should have to suffer in order to assuage the hurt feelings and envy of two oversized egos.
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    And anyone who needs clear evidence that the activities Tavis and West are indeed self-serving, and have absolutely nothing to do with the well-being of the poor, need simply ask Tavis the following question - “Tavis, since you’re such a big promoter of ‘accountability’ and what’s in the best interest of the poor, were you accountable, and concerned enough about the poor, to returned any of the millions of dollars that you reportedly made from the Wells Fargo “Ghetto Loans” scam to the poor Black people who lost their money and homes?”
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    Personally, I’m not privy to any information suggesting whether or not Tavis returned any of that money, but considering his character and greed, I feel completely comfortable in saying, I doubt it. But that's a question that needs to be put to him, and if he didn't return the money, considering his position on 'accountability,' our next question should be, "Why not?"
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    In addition to that, as deluded as these two characters are, they should both have sense enough to recognize that the most important aspect of a young person’s ability to cope with adversity is his or her self-image. And one of the big differences between Black kids and others is, Jewish kids are taught that they're "God's chosen people," and White American kids are taught that they're the greatest thing to ever walk the Earth. But due primarily to people like Tavis and West, Black kids are being taught that they're helpless victims whose well-being is in the hands of others - and since, we are what we think, that's what many of our young people are becoming. So it's time to stamp out that message, and correct that image.
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    But, of course, Tavis and West would simply glaze over everything that’s been said here and continue to repeat their mantra that they're fighting for the people. But I don't accept that for a minute. Again, what they're actually fighting for is the very lucrative job of spokesmen for the Black community. Tavis has proven that many times over with not only his involvement in Wells Fargo’s "Ghetto Loans" scam, but also with his association with a number of corporations that were members of ALEC, including Walmart. And as I’ve mentioned before, Cornel’s mere association with Tavis gives him the credibility of a man running down the street ranting about fascism after just having lunch with Mussolini.
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    So the Black community needs to bring this self-serving nonsense to an end - AND NOW! And we should start by boycotting everything, and everybody, associated with Tavis Smiley and Cornel West.
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    Did you hear that Boyce Watkins? You think you want to run with the big dogs, but sooner rather than later the Black press is going to realize that they’re being unforgivably remiss and on the wrong side of history by not more aggressively covering this gross assault on the Black community. Once they recognize that fact, Dr. Watkins, you may find that you’ve latched on to the Titanic.

    Why I Love Being BLACK
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    Eric L. Wattree
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    Religious bigotry: It's not that I hate everyone who doesn't look, think, and act like me - it's just that God does.

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    14% black unemployment for a year now, which doesn't include the roughly 900,000 African Americans imprisoned (1 in 15 black men). 38% of black children live in poverty - 1 in 2 in places like Anacostia. Where the severely poor make up an increasingly larger percentage.

    "Black kids have heard enough whining". Uh, maybe. They've also had enough poverty. Any clue how they can "reach for their full potential" under such conditions, poor and missing a parent? Or is this a "pull yourselves up by your own bootstraps" moment?

    What do you consider "whining", and who is doing it? What does a valid complaint sound like to you?

    All Poverty

    Child Poverty

     


    Oh I will agree with your message even if I am not sure of what I am agreeing to.

    hahahahah

    I still think that your nemesis or two of your nemesises still perform a function but I am looking at this from an old suburban perspective.

    hahhahaha

    I have supported this President regardless of white disdain including Greenwald and scores of others! 

    Maybe I am just a lazy liberal.

    But every frickin time the liberals balk en masse we lose to the goddamn fascists.

    Every frickin time.

    Who in this age would back Nixon over Humphrey for chrissakes?

    Who in this age would not back Carter over Reagan?

    And who would not feel better with Kerry considering how w bush destroyed this country with lack of regulatory enforcement, with criminal intentions regarding wars on foreign soil (as if w could really entertain any criminal intentions let alone more lofty intentions) with criminal intentions to debase the workers in favor of the wagering class of capitalists!

    I come to the conclusion that they are all in it for the money.

    But the repubs sense this.

    The repubs just assume everyone of the politicians, the pundits and the instigators are in it for the money. That is why the repubs believe in NOTHING!

    So your foes are in it for the money! I get that.

    What really gets to me are organizations like the SCLC or the ACLU or a number of other groups espousing power to the poor, power to the citizen who is forced to drink whatever water the authorities espouse, power to the hungry and dispossessed; power to victims of unemployment caused by capitalists who give one damn about anything but the bottom line that can line their own pockets (screw shareholders)...

    The good organizations do not receive the compensation of the felonious CEO's.

    The good organizations are lobbying for others and not themselves.

    The good organizations scrape by whilst capitalist lobbyists receive millions with one phone call.

    We have to live with coalitions.

    That is all we got in the end.

    Your foes contribute to the coalition and yet debase the ultimate aim; but that is the basis of coalitions.

    All of the right wing conspirators make millions; every frickin day.

    We are stuck with some bad fruit.

    But damn; we must concentrate on the ultimate purpose.

    And yet, if you do not keep on keepin on, the bad fruit continues to spew lies for their own amusement.

    Sorry.

    I get carried away with rants.

    hahahah

    I have no idea why I need to play the following music! Maybe I just need some weed

    and champaign. hahaha


     

     

    Rich,

    You're not carried away. You're just a thinker, so you have a lot to say.

    But man, you're really into that gut-bucket blues. I like it because I like blues changes, but when I'm listening to the blues, I generally listen to what they call the big-city blues:

     

     


    I’m not surprised who showed up to gleefully bring dismal appearing charts.

    You have made me consider the actions of Cornel West and Tavis Smiley in more detail. Boyce Watkins can be added in.  Our dear brother Allen West is also part of the same behavior. The basic idea is that things are bad in the Black community. There is no one leader who appears capable of solving all the problems in rapid fashion. Seeing a vacuum, you gather up your charts and show how bad the educational level is for Blacks. You then point to the Prison-Industrial complex and the high incarceration rate for Blacks. The uneven sentencing of Blacks is noted. The high unemployment rate is noted. You point out the lower levels of marriage and two-family homes in the Black community. You end with the lower average lifespan you then let this all simmer

    Once you point out all the ills, you then perform your great trick. You then falsely allege that you are the only one who notices all the ills impacting the Black community. Anyone who doesn’t thank you for showing up with your graphs is ignoring all these glaring problems. They are complacent.  Because you came with pictures and statistics, people should be in awe of your command of the facts. Those who aren’t in awe are puppets for “Da Man”.

    You are the one from out of town with pictures, by default “the expert”. People should now be listening to you. The problem that the Wests, Smiley and Watkins face is that they do not have the level of followers they demand. How can people be so ignorant and blind, they wonder? Don’t they see that I am the only one who cares deeply about these issues? What’s wrong with these nitwits?

    The response to people realizing how difficult it is to address all the problems and making personal and collective decisions to attack the problems is not enough. Things are bad. The Blacks are not listening to me. It can’t be that my message is not helpful. The problem must lie elsewhere. Allen west responds by suggesting that he has come to lead Blacks off of the Democratic plantation. Allen West will rescue the brainwashed Blacks. Blacks can be rejected his Conservative message and harsh language. Blacks can’t be rejecting Allen West. Blacks must be helped out of their delusion so that their minds ill clear and they we follow Allen West into a glorious future.

    Cornel West wonders why he is not being following in droves. His perfect poetic verbosity is entertaining, but it does not gain followers. When he spouts venom about Obama he gets rejection, not praise. Something must be keeping Blacks from kissing his feet. Allen West’s epiphany was that the Democratic Party cast a spell over Blacks. Cornel west concluded that Black anchors on MSNBC were the problem.  Cornel went after Al Sharpton and Melissa Harris-Perry. Despite their efforts Allen and Cornel get no love from the majority of the Black community.

    Because things are bad in the Black community. Allen and Cornel pretend that because they are moving their lips, giving literal lip service to Black struggle, they are the source of solutions. The suggestion is that if you don’t regard them as prophets, you are neglecting the Black community.

    The truth is that the community knows that both Allen and Cornel lack any real talent for doing anything worthwhile in the Black community. Allen West, at least has the common sense not to run for election in a Black community. Cornel tries to cling on and will in desperation even “speak truth to power” by attacking a popular rapper, Jay-Z, in an attempt to stay relevant. The Black community saw GW Bush as a fraud. The Black community sees the same lack of depth in the Wests, Smiley and Watkins.

    If someone thinks that no one is addressing problems in the Black community. they are mistaken. If someone thinks that repeatedly showing grafts makes an impression they are mistaken. The graphs have been seen before. Instead of just sitting down at a keyboard, people are addressing the problems.

    Lead, follow or get out of the way. If all a person has is graphs and yelling from the sidelines, they are as worthless as the Wests and Smiley.

    Things are bad. We don’t have time to stop and bring the onlookers on the action going on in the community. Heck even the President is doing stuff.


    I’m not here to defend President Obama, because I don’t agree with everything he does, or fails to do, myself. But there are those in the Black community who need to come to terms with the fact that there are some things that even the president can’t do – and signing a bill abolishing ignorance is at the very top of that list. That’s what it would take to accomplish some of the objectives that they’re trying to force upon him. That’s also what lets me know that much of the ranting and raving of some of these so-called Black intellectuals are disingenuous at best, and blatant intraracial bigotry at worst.
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    The president can’t just wave a magic wand and instantly make everyone upwardly mobile. It doesn’t work that way. There’s an educational process that goes along with upward mobility, and that goes for whether the person is Black, or White. While there are many in the Black community who have the skills to hit the ground running, there are others who need to be trained, motivated, and refocused in order to simply maintain a job that pays wages high enough to lift them out of poverty, even if it was given to them.
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    So if these educators, intellectuals, and pundits were serious about their concern for the poor, instead of holding televised seminars and book signings, they’d be in the community with their sleeves up, helping to upgrade the skill sets of those who need it. That’s what Barack Obama did. As the first Black president of the Harvard Law Review, when Obama graduated from law school he could have gone to work as a law clerk for the Supreme Court, or pursued wealth by going into any one of the top law firms in the country. He could have also tried to make a name for himself by running all over the country selling books, doing lectures, and trying to sound profound. But he didn’t do that. Instead, he quietly went back into the community and went to work helping people to get their heaters fixed. That’s the way to show that you care. Words are meaningless. It’s deeds that count.
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    So for that reason – and yes, because he’s a lone Black man struggling to carve out a new chapter in our history – I’ll always give him the benefit of the doubt over lesser men who criticize him. No, he’s not perfect, but neither am I – and neither was Washington, Jefferson, or Lincoln – but why does a Black man have to be perfect to be accepted as a man worthy of respect?
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    Many of the very same Black “intellectuals” who can barely contain themselves today, just sat back and allowed Ronald Reagan, both Bushs, and the GOP in general, to cut our throats for the past 30 years with nothing more than a whimper in most cases, and a profound silence in others.
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    So why do they now try to hold Barack Obama to a different standard than they hold other men? The sad truth is, America has conditioned them to view this Black man with a jaundiced eye. Their attitudes and motivations are exactly the same as with White racists – whenever a Black man demonstrates exceptional excellence, they see it as diminishing their own accomplishments. So the fact is, the very existence of Barack Obama represents an assault on their self-esteem, and it’s killing them. He represents a pie in the face of their delusions of grandeur. I suspect President Obama knows this, but he’s precluded from saying it, so I am.

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    These critics didn’t lift a finger in the 2000 election when the Black community, and others, were literally disenfranchised to elect George W. Bush, and they were all but mute in the last election while, once again, the GOP passed laws all over the country in an attempt to obstruct the Black vote. Yet, after enduring all of that, just like their White racist counterparts, the mere idea of having a Black man living in the White House seems to be just more than they can stomach. From the way some of these people are screaming, you’d think someone appointed the Grand Dragon of the Klan to head the NAACP. No other group of people in the world suffers from that kind of stupidity, and that’s a much more serious problem in the Black community than anything that President Obama can possibly address.
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    Surely these “intellectuals” have enough education to know that the United States Constitution states that the House of Representatives controls ALL spending, and they also know that the House of Representatives is controlled by the Republican Party. So exactly what do they expect President Obama to do other than what he is – trying to hold together a fragile coalition of Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, gays, women, the young, the old, etc., and design policies that are broad enough to help ALL of these groups in order to put enough pressure on congress to loosen the purse strings? These “public intellectuals” know that. Nevertheless, they continue to rant, rave, and insist that Obama attempt to play poker at a blackjack table.
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    They should also know enough about history to remember what brought down the Civil Rights Movement. Many people don’t realize it, but Republican, Richard Nixon, helped to promote and signed important parts of Affirmation Action into effect – but he had his tongue firmly implanted in cheek as he was signing the memorandum. You see, he knew that many of the White folks who supported the civil rights movement and marched with Martin Luther King would have a change of heart once Black people started taking their jobs and replacing their children in college admissions across the country – and that’s exactly what happened.
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    We made a huge mistake while formulating affirmative action legislation. We should have insisted that it be based on need rather than race. That way, Black people would have still been at the head of the line, but we wouldn’t have given the GOP the leverage to convince poor and middle-class White people that it was an assault on their rights.
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    So shortly after it went into effect, White people started to protest, and hordes of formerly moderate White people raced over to the Republican Party. That ushered in the Ronald Reagan era, with his “trickle-down economics,” the assault on Fair Labor Standards Act, and the abolishment of the Fairness Doctrine. That , in turn, led directly to the rise of Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, the policies that led to the Wall Street collapse, and directly to the dire straits that we find ourselves in today.
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    Yet, once again, many of these Black “intellectuals” are criticizing President Obama for having the good sense not to repeat history by refusing to throw his fist in the air. While they say it’s all about advocating against poverty, just like with White demagogues, they’re conflating the term “poverty” with race, in spite of the fact that they know full well that even the scent of racial politics is grist for the Republican mill. That’s exactly why Obama has to avoid the issue, because the Republicans can use it to drum up support to block anything he tries to do for the people at all.
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    So if these “intellectuals” were actually concerned about the best interest of the Black community, while President Obama is trying to navigate the Republican minefield they’d be in the community organizing, educating, and discussing what we can do to improve our own condition in the meantime. But of course, that’s too much like real work.
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    These people should be educating Black people to understand that more money passes through the Black community than through most countries, so we could create our own jobs. But we don’t, and I’ll tell you why – because Black people are the product of the very same racist environment as White people, so we’re just as reluctant to patronize Black businesses as any Hillbilly. Unlike any other community in the world, we’d rather take our money and patronize other people – ANY other people – as long as they aren’t Black. That’s a hard pill to swallow, but it is, what it is.
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    So our bigoted attitude towards other Black people is the primary reason why we’re lingering at the very bottom of the social and economic ladder – and it’s that very same bigotry that’s being reflected in the attitudes of Tavis Smiley, Cornel West, and others of their ilk, towards President Obama. Essentially, all they’re saying is, “Obama ain’t nobody – he’s just another nigga, just like you.”
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    Think about it. Think about the kind of respect that these people afforded Bush and Cheney, and those two were trying to cut our throats – in fact, they did! But in spite of that, many of these Black critics limited their criticism to mumbling under their breath. But now, with Obama, they’ve pulled out their bullhorns. And Cornel West, in his typically attention-seeking fashion, has even resorted to playing the dozens – with THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!! That’s not only highly disrespectful of the president, but in my opinion, speaks volumes regarding his lack of respect, and his arrogant disdain, for the Black community as a whole. But doesn’t West love his people? Sure he does, just like a pimp loves his whoes.
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    So it’s time for Black people to come to terms with our racist attitudes toward one another. If we’re going to hold a seminar on poverty, the major topic of discussion shouldn’t be Barack Obama, but why we’re so willing to pass by hundreds of Black businesses in the community to take our money to Walmart. Now, I’d be a hypocrite to say never shop at Walmart. I realize that sometimes our finances force us to deal with the Devil, but we should, at the very least, balance our spending. Because, until we come to terms with what is essentially a boycott of Black businesses, whining about high unemployment is silly.
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    So, again, one of the many things that President Obama can’t do, is to sign a bill bestowing common sense upon the people. Learning to love and respect other Black people, and acting with common sense, are two things that no one else can give us.Janet says:

    Wattree,

    I love what you wrote. You are so right. I am a jurist and I know that over 600 American firms were after Obama for a job but he decided to work in the community in Chicago!

    I also know that before Obama became a senator, he sent a letter to the main Black leaders in the nation to see how they could work together and none answered! I have no problem in believing that because I am building my own business and I have few support from our community!!!

     


    Here's Cornel West with Amy Goodman in November 2000, criticizing the Gore campaign for not addressing poverty (black poverty then 43%) and wealth inequality, for blaming his lack of imagination & election problems on Ralph Nader.

    Is there anything he says now that he didn't say then? Was he any more respectful to the President or Democratic nominee in 2000? Did you complain about his attitude in 2000 and 2004, or just now?

     

    AMY GOODMAN: ...Well, we’re joined right now by Cornel West. I last saw him in Oakland at a Nader super rally, as he was urging people to go to the polls and vote Green....

     

    CORNEL WEST: ...You have Al Gore, that can’t cover — that can’t win his own state, and Nader gets 1% of the vote in Tennessee. He can’t even win Arkansas, Clinton’s own state. Nader gets 1%. But they don’t talk about that. No, they want to scapegoat him on other issues. Oregon, Florida, so I think it’s ridiculous. Liberalism is in deep decay.

    And the democracy was in decay before the election, in terms of the corporate-driven party politics and the limited choices that people make. And, of course, the vast majority of Americans who can vote still didn’t vote. That’s another sign of the decline and decay. So this kind of scapegoating among frightened liberals is just a sign of the disrepair of liberalism as a whole.

    AMY GOODMAN: Well, let’s look at Florida. You have Bush, at least at this point, around 2,900 votes, 2,909,000, Gore at 2,907,000 and some. They’re all around — they’re around 49% each. And then you have Nader almost at 100,000. That would certainly make the difference.

    CORNEL WEST: Which means if Gore had spoke to the issues — I mean, it’s commercial airports — why didn’t he speak against it? That’s what Nader did. Why didn’t he speak to the situation of more of the working people there? I mean, Gore wants to fake left, go right and still win. Well, you can’t do that. You have to speak your mind, see what people — see the direction that people go. I mean, and so that this notion of somehow Gore has some ipso facto entitlement to votes is the most anti-democratic notion I could think of. But it’s a typical move of scapegoating the most vulnerable, rather than confronting the most powerful. The most powerful in this case happened to be Gore and his lieutenants. And they did not run the kind of race, such that we find ourself in this situation.

    AMY GOODMAN: What about this issue of voter fraud or voter irregularities that we’re now hearing focused on really for the first time in Florida in a major mainstream way?

    CORNEL WEST: Well, I mean, one, I think they have to close ranks on that in that regard. And that’s why I would be with Jesse Jackson and others. But at the same time, I mean, you got voter irregularities going on across the nation, especially in black and brown poor communities. This is not the first time this surfaces, although I think we get attention focused in this way, owing to the fact that Florida now is going to tip it one way or the other. But this kind of thing, of course, is, I think, much more systemic. It’s just that it doesn’t surface. It only surfaces in certain contexts. But as I said before, I mean, indicated before the election, and the election is just another example of just how narrow the corporate party politics actually is in America.

    AMY GOODMAN: ...What about African American participation in this election?

    CORNEL WEST: Well, I mean, one, it’s been quite extraordinary. You got 90% of black people supporting Gore. Only 8% supporting Bush. It was a sign of the mainstream black leadership galvanizing and mobilizing black people to vote for Gore. I’m very critical of that black leadership. I think it’s too narrow. It’s much too myopic, much too shortsighted. Gore, pro-death penalty, pro-military, no word about the criminal justice system, no focus on the prison system, no talk about the wealth inequality that’s growing, that’s escalating. It’s — you get a black voting participation following the entrenched black leadership, and for the most part, I think that black folk, black community has really not received what it ought from the Democratic Party and especially Gore leadership.

    AMY GOODMAN: Where is the leadership?

    CORNEL WEST: Right now, they’re in the hip pocket of Gore. The black professionals, the black politicians are tied to a patronage system: the Democratic Party. And when you look at the — look at it this way, that Gore could not mention poor people, but 42% of black children are poor. Black leadership is supposed to speak to the situation of black folk. And yet you have a candidate that can’t even mention the condition of 42% of our children. And that’s true, of course, for brown children, red children, and 21% of all American children across color. So, I mean, I think we’ve got some real debating to do in terms of relation of black leadership and the Gore campaign.

    AMY GOODMAN: Yesterday, I got a chance to ask President Clinton about why he hasn’t issued an executive order against racial profiling. I know Gore has said that if he were president, it would be one of his first acts, but they’ve been in power for eight years.

    CORNEL WEST: It’s ridiculous. If it wasn’t for the Bill Bradley campaign, Gore wouldn’t say that. If it wasn’t for the Bill Bradley campaign, Clinton wouldn’t say that. And, of course, if it wasn’t for Al Sharpton and a whole host of other activists, you wouldn’t even have racial profiling as a major issue in national discourse.

    So, I mean, here you got Bill Clinton that claims to have this special intimate relationship to black community and hasn’t issued a executive order that has to do with banning racial profiling, the most basic right, which is arbitrary use of power, police power against black people? It’s another sign, I think, of just how marginal the interests of black community actually is when it comes to working poor and poor people.

    For black professionals and black middle class, the Clinton administration has been wonderful; for the black poor and black working class, devastating. That’s part of the crisis of black leadership right there.

    ... [short phone interview with Bill Clinton about success of black poverty programs]

     

    AMY GOODMAN: President Clinton, addressing the issue of, do we really make a difference when you’ve got the level of corporate control you do of parties.

    CORNEL WEST: And, of course, he missed the point. He missed the point. He doesn’t recognize the way in which corporate power set the framework in which he answers the question. He says nothing about the fact that 1% of the population when he entered office owned 36% of the wealth, and 1% of the population now own 48% of the wealth. He says nothing about the fact that income among those who make more than $200,000 increased 89%, but among working people, it’s increased less than 14%. Those are the issues that need to be highlighted.

    But he can’t conceive of thinking of wealth inequality. He can’t conceive of the expansion of corporate power. Nothing about escalating oligopolies, monopolies. Nothing about the difficulty of local radio stations to stay on air, owing to the colonization of corporate mergers in telecommunications. Nothing about the collapse of commercial investment banking and why millions of poor people can’t even have a checking account and have to go to a check account enterprise. That doesn’t even — that’s not on his radar screen. You know, it’s like talking about Eskimos in Jamaica. It doesn’t register, because his framework is so truncated.

    And so, thank God someone like yourself, Sister Amy, can raise that question, because he’s never thought about it. He’s never had to think about it, because the radical Democrats don’t get a chance to ask the President questions like that.


    Pathetic - I back up an argument with facts, statistics, and you whimper, "dismal appearing charts" - sorry, buddy - sometimes life is actually dismal, and you have to deal with that rather than fantasyland if you want to effect real change. That's why I pointed out it was insulting to gloss over the heavy poverty and despair underlying the bubble of the Harlem Renaissance. It doesn't take away from the beauty of the Renaissance - it gives it perspective, and shows at what odds.

    "You then falsely allege that you are the only one who notices all the ills impacting the Black community." Patent bullshit. I say nothing much different than Jesse Jackson said 20 years ago, or Chuck D, or your favorite pariahs now, or Black Agenda Report or numerous bloggers blogging the obvious. Even Al Sharpton made some statements about finally getting attention for what ails the black community once the election was over. Want to fight with Al now too?

    The books on the Harlem Renaissance I referred to weren't written by me - they were written by smart, dedicated black writers who documented historical events so we could learn *all* the lessons from them, not just our cherry-picked conclusions. I just Googled - welcome to the internet, where you can debunk or bolster your argument in a second if you care to.

    (Believe it or not, sometimes I change what I was going to write when I discover a fact that shows I'm wrong.)

    "Instead of just sitting down at a keyboard, people are addressing the problems." Oh yes, tell us oh Moses how you're changing the world and I just don't understand. You're doing all the heavy lifting of water - please, inform us so we can join in and the ills be be cured in a jumpin' jack flash. Talk about presumption, as if you're the only one who's doing anything productive and the rest is just jabber. Here's a hint - I don't know what you're doing, and you'll have to self-evaluate whether it's really effective, but if it's akin to "pissing in the ocean" it might not be worth a rat's piss. But meanwhile, you might take the halo off your head and pass it around - no one likes someone who Bogarts the goods.


    Most of what you have is word salad to carry on an argument. The basic stance is things are bad so any action being taken is "pissing in the wind". Sharpton spends virtually all of the time on his show criticizing the GOP, but you cherry pick some comments for your word salad.

    The folks who battle against "Stand Your Ground", ""Stop and Frisk" and a host of other issues are all just "pissing in the wind". Voting is just "pissing in the wind". You have no clue about the nature of political and social struggle in the United States. Battles are long haul events.

    The reason I don't take a lot arguments seriously is based on reecent history. Kagan was considered a flawed SCOTUS candidate. She was not "Progressive". Oh the howls that came from the constant complainers. Turns out that Kagan and Sotomayor are trying to keep a right-wing Supreme Court sane. Just "pissing in the wind".

    When Obamacare was being debated, Cornel West's BFF Tavis Smiley was ready to jettison the whole thing are start from scratch. He didn't mind if people who would get health care coverage in short order would have to wait 10-20 years to get a more perfect bill. Someone willing to let people go uncovered to satisfy their egos, do not care about the poor.

    Pissing in the wind", indeed.

    Continue to complain from your Cheetos-encrusted keyboard at Mama's house. The adults will deal with the problems facing the country.

     

     


    I just wrote a whole column about positive approaches.

    Criticizing the GOP doesn't do much good when you own the White House and Senate. Talk about who's being negative.

    I didn't say folks fighting "Stand Your Ground" or "Stop and Frisk" are pissing in the wind - I said I have no idea what the hell *you* do that gives you the Jesus complex and lets you dismiss my right to comment.

    Anyone to the left of Scalia & Alito would be fighting to keep the Supreme Court sane - that says nothing about quality of candidate. And the complaints about Kagan were her support for unlimited executive power. It's not all "my side vs. their side" - there are other qualities to consider.

    You're obsessed with Tavis Smiley - I've never read or heard a thing from him so can't comment.

    And fuck you with your cheetos and mama's house comment. Again, you get personal and insulting and think you know something about me, God knows why. But you probably pat yourself on the back for not using profanity. You're just a super-troll.

    But as an "adult" you continue to think entrenched high black unemployment, 38% black child poverty and 900,000 incarcerated is just focusing on the negative, while "Stand Your Ground" and "Stop and Frisk" must be the highest priorities for the black community.


    Note, "stop-and-frisk" isn't the only recurring act of police overreach - continued overuse of tasering and typical car stops - here a pregnant women thrown to the ground for talking on the phone . Any encounter with the police, whatever color you are, can take a horrible turn.


    It is time for me to break off this conversation with you. 2013 is a very special year. The 150th anniversary of the Emancipation Proclamation began the year. The MLK Day of service and the Inauguration will occur on Monday. The 50th anniversary of the "I Have a Dream Speech" takes place in August. This is a historic time.

    Current conversation with you carries baggage from discussions on American history that took place at TPM. I viewed your comments on Wattree's previous post as deliberately distracting and disrespectful. My analysis of your commentary influences my interaction with you in a negative way.. I view you as loving the idea of being an irritant. That would not be problematic if I thought that I gained anything useful from your words. I do not feel that anything positive is gained from your comments. You take information that is not new and spin it to create discord.

    I think you take any position that furthers an argument. I note the multiple positons you took on the Presidential vote. In the end, I find that I really don't respect your opinion on matters that touch on race. As Cornel West would say "Race Matters". Given the preparations being made for Monday, I simply don't have the time or energy to invest in any further interact with you on this post. There may be others who offer what I consider more useful comments. Your comments have been worthless.

     


    I take information that is not new and ask, "why isn't anything being done?"

    The "multiple positions" I took on the Presidential vote aren't that multiple - push plead threaten Obama to get support for my policies, see if there's a better alternative, suck it up if not, push plead threaten Obama after election to get support for my policies.

    That it didn't matter whether I voted or not doesn't change the position for Ohio, Florida, Virginia, Wisconsin voters, or that California & Kentucky were landslides. I didn't create the electoral college or Red/Blue layout of the land.

    My comments are only "worthless" because you can call 14% unemployment in Jan 2012 and 14% in Jan 2013 a "decrease". If we can't agree on basic math & reality, yeah, I guess it is worthless.

    Even your comment on Sharpton is telling - he held his tongue until after the elections - a reasonable strategy even if some choose another - and then held a press conference after to push for change. When I bring this up, you just focus on his bashing the GOP, nothing about his post-election comments. My guess is because that's too much like criticizing Obama, but if you want to give me the real reason, I'm happy to listen.


    Digby posts a great MLK piece on Planned Parenthood for the black population, adapting black communities to the shift from rural life to packed inner city. Would be great if someone these days could express these ideas (political, not just civil rights) half as coherently and pointedly as he did.


    "Why I blog" = "The Drum Major Instinct". If only mine were for as unselfish reasons.