The Bishop and the Butterfly: Murder, Politics, and the End of the Jazz Age

    What's the Frequency, Kenneth?

    By PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/05/2016 - 2:55am |

    [transferred from comment - think everyone could use a dance break...]

    Important subliminal issue related to Woodward's "tone issue" - 

     In Study 1, we manipulated voice pitch of recordings of US presidents and asked participants to attribute personality traits to the voices and to choose the voice they preferred to vote for. We found that lower-pitched voices were associated with favorable personality traits more often than were higher-pitched voices and that people preferred to vote for politicians with lower-pitched rather than higher-pitched voices. Furthermore, lower voice pitch was more strongly associated with physical prowess than with integrity in a wartime voting scenario. Thus, sensitivity to vocal cues to dominance was heightened during wartime. In Study 2, we found that participants preferred to vote for the candidate with the lower-pitched voice when given the choice between two unfamiliar men's voices speaking a neutral sentence. Taken together, our results suggest that candidates' voice pitch has an important influence on voting behavior and that men with lower-pitched voices may have an advantage in political elections.

    I'd be curious how much of subconscious response to female candidates depends on cultural affinity to "whiny screechy" brazen in-your-face female singers like Patti Smith or Garbage or Courtney Love or Alanis Morissette or B-52s. I mean I always thought women raising their voice was a plus... Rock on...

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    And for the boots alone...

     

    And before RMRD nails my racist ass...

     

     

     

    Ann Margret does her best to keep up, bless her soul... better versions but the novelty value is precious.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Hillary gave the best response to the nonsense in October when she said, "When women talk, some people think we're shouting."

    http://mic.com/articles/127280/hillary-clinton-when-women-talk-some-peop...


    by rmrd0000 on Fri, 02/05/2016 - 7:59am

    I watched the debate last night and almost turned it off after a half hour of nothing but shouting from both Bernie and Hillary.  Neither of them are at their best when they raise their voices, but Hillary is the only one of all the presidential candidates who is called out because of her voice.  (Carly maybe, but there are so many other things to hate about her, her voice gets lost in the crowd.)

    Women's voices can be shrill, can be like fingernails on a blackboard--all of that.  Our voices are pitched higher and we do have to watch the decibel level because otherwise society won't take us seriously.  We're told.

    Two women whose voices just irritate the hell out of me are right out there on TV and I can't figure out how they ever got there:  JJ Ramburg on Your Business/MSNBC and Kristi Paul on Saturday New Day/CNN.  Painful.

    But then there are the men:  Donald Trump, Joe Scarborough, Chris Cuomo, Al Sharpton.  Gawdawful. (Joe Lieberman may have been the worst but he's not around anymore.  Thanks for that.)

    Voices do matter, but I noticed something missing from the article you cite:

    In Study 2, we found that participants preferred to vote for the candidate with the lower-pitched voice when given the choice between two unfamiliar men's voices speaking a neutral sentence. Taken together, our results suggest that candidates' voice pitch has an important influence on voting behavior and that men with lower-pitched voices may have an advantage in political elections.

    Even in 2012, when the article was written, women in politics are invisible.

     


    by Ramona on Fri, 02/05/2016 - 8:04am

    "Even in 2012, when the article was written, women in politics are invisible." - I started to point that out myself until I realized "In Study 1, we manipulated voice pitch of recordings of US presidents..." so, no, no female Presidents to study, and including women in the tested candidates would have messed up any possible conclusions.  Similar with "In Study 2, we found that participants preferred to vote for the candidate with the lower-pitched voice when given the choice between two unfamiliar men's voices speaking a neutral sentence".

    Obviously there can be Study 3 and Study 4 to assess higher/lower female tones & male<=>female with higher/lower & same tones matrix.


    by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/05/2016 - 8:21am

    Right.  I see that now.  It was about U.S presidents--so far.


    by Ramona on Fri, 02/05/2016 - 8:38am

    Great collection.
    It might take a long time to respond adequately.


    by moat on Fri, 02/05/2016 - 9:50pm

    Thanks - just care if you enjoy. Look for Betty Blowtorch and her Amazing True Life Adventures - a superb underground classic film, more intense than Babes in Toyland (the Ugly track here is far from their best - my fave is the oft-covered "shut up and fuck", but YMMV. The fire breathing Blowtorch dancing girls onstage just add to the je ne sais quoi ambiance, four tattooed chicks outplaying Motorhead or Guns n Roses, and the ending is just horribly sad. Someone stole Sharon Needles' stage name, which I think is just blasphemy.


    by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 02/06/2016 - 3:02am

    Ah well, no conversions it seems - crowd too busy watching the debates on a slow Saturday night, had thought I'd get the Dag mosh pits going. Should have named this one Automatic for the People, especially for Rubio - this one goes out to the one I love. The one I love. The one I love. (you're) Fired!!!


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 02/07/2016 - 4:06am

    Upon review, there is a broad range of intimidation to be found here.
    Grace Jones could knock Iggy unconscious accidentally while yawning: Secretary of Defense.
    Betty Blowtorch lays down a hard platform but it is interesting to see all those guys lip syncing the lyrics.Secretary of State for sure.
    Salt n Pepa has the strong line on education.
    Nina Hagen has my vote for the top spot. She could beat Reagan to death with a nerf ball.


    by moat on Sun, 02/07/2016 - 11:30am

    Starting to sound like a grunge grudge-match politico "League of Our Own". I can't wait for someone to try a Birther on Nina Hagen - she'll eat their liver. Those *are* New York values, at least from all the slasher/vampire in Central Park movies I've seen. Sadly Bianca Blowtorch is beyond the grave, but from the look of Hell on Wheels, she doesn't much need to be alive to get the job done - Satan Rulez.


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 02/07/2016 - 12:03pm