MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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'Staggering' loss of civilian life from US-led airstrikes in Raqqa, says UN
By artappraiser on Thu, 06/15/2017 - 3:43am |War crimes investigators say US-backed campaign to reclaim Syrian city from Islamic State has led to at least 300 deaths
By Kareem Shaheem in Istanbul for Guardian.com, June 14
UN war crimes investigators have denounced a “staggering loss of civilian life” caused by the US-backed campaign to reclaim Raqqa, the de facto capital of Islamic State.
The independent commission of inquiry tasked with investigating violations of international law, war crimes and crimes against humanity in Syria said the intensification of airstrikes by the US-led coalition had led to the deaths of at least 300 civilians in the city.
The Raqqa operation began last week with a ground assault by the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), an umbrella group comprising Kurdish and Arab militiamen armed by the US and supported by coalition airstrikes [....]
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Oh no, when we do it it is merely "collateral", and it is the fault of the enemy anyway, for "hiding behind civilians(Alan Dershowitz's favorite phrase).
by Aaron Carine on Thu, 06/15/2017 - 12:47pm
Bullshit synopsis, especially with the care coalition forces have taken in communicating with trapped civilians, as documented by Airwars.org. The Guardian seems to point to a particular incident in al-Monsoura causing 200 of the 300 civilian deaths, but no details, and nothing in Airwars' daily tallies that correlates with that big a hit. Airwars does denote mixed & unsure causes of airstrikes and artillery, but I'm sure it's comforting to lump them all into airstrikes, as that can be blamed on Americans.
This is largely between Raqqa and Mosul, and previousl a major civilian hit in the hundreds in March was investigated and most likely ISIS had seduced/forced civilians into a building to be attacked.
In any case, from how wars usually go, civilian deaths seem to me quite proportionate for a major offensive.
Oh, and al-Baghdadi? Fuck him. Still looking around to see if Russians got him and how.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 06/16/2017 - 6:54am
200,000 civilians essentially captive and liable to summary execution, but the US causing civilian deaths through largely careful attacks is pushed as a "both sides do it" scenario. Propaganda indeed works - to suckers.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 06/16/2017 - 4:06pm
Tend to agree with you especially on this point. War is a ruthless brutal numbers game, even when most everyone agrees about who "the good guys:are", a percentage of innocent individuals need to be sacrificed.
I really posted the story because it was of a U.N. report and it is atypical for them to criticize "us" so loudly.
by artappraiser on Fri, 06/16/2017 - 9:29pm
Yeah, I feel a few narrative pushers from different sides. I felt there was a rush by the Russians to get a "we killed al-Baghdadi (maybe)" in along with atrocity condemnations before any praise for allied fighters might occur in Mosul. Watch it - every time there's some budding good news in either Syria or Iraq, some balancing horrible news has to appear. Come to think of it, last year's election was largely orchestrated that way.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 06/16/2017 - 10:18pm