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She Was Accepted to 113 Colleges: ‘I Could Go Anywhere, and Discover Who I Am’
By artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 5:17pm |By Christine Hauser @ NYTimes.com, May 3
Spring is the season when many high school seniors fret, waiting anxiously to hear whether they have been accepted to college.
Jasmine E. Harrison, a 17-year-old senior at The Academy at Smith in Greensboro, N.C., was no different. And hear she did — more than 100 times.
Ms. Harrison was accepted to 113 colleges and universities out of the 115 to which she had applied. The scholarship offers she received totaled more than $4 million, according to Ms. Harrison and her mother, who kept track of the financial offers on an Excel spreadsheet. “At first I could not believe it, but then I was like, ‘Wow.’ I felt honored,” Ms. Harrison said [....]
Photo caption: Jasmine E. Harrison, a senior at The Academy at Smith in Greensboro, N.C., was admitted to 113 colleges and received scholarship offers totaling more than $4.5 million. She plans to attend Bennett College in her hometown. Credit: Bravena Michelle Armstrong
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/03/us/teenager-college-acceptance-scholarships.html
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What a waste of time. She's a female black 4.0 student at a very-well performing magnet school for disadvantaged minorities that focuses hard on college acceptance "career academy". No school in its right mind would turn her down, but a little common sense and evaluation would have kept her from wasting the time of 80+ of those schools. Meanwhile, most students in America will be struggling with less than optimal school conditions and resources, sometimes poor teaching, and the general difficulty of qualifying for any loans, God forbid grants, to make school affordable.
Perhaps they could have titled it "fuck you, other students". Maybe I'll warm to Bernie yet.
ETA: strangest line was:
I mean, like, why is this even there? "Female black student reads 2 of the most popular & recognized contemporary American female black authors - for fun!!!"
And I read Abbie Hoffman and Tom Wolfe - for fun!!! Is that newsworthy? Does it symbolize excellence in some way that I'm not grasping? If she'd read say a broad swathe of African writers, or analyzed Beowulf vs. Parzival's roles as early legends, or finished Proust's A la Recherche du Temps Perdu, or something out of the ordinary...
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 8:25am
How exactly is she disrupting things?
by rmrd0000 on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 8:32am
This non-controversy came up when a black teen in Houston was accepted to 20 top-tier colleges.
https://www.chron.com/national/article/Fox-Michael-Brown-20-colleges-criticized-DC-12821162.php#item-85307-tbla-34
by rmrd0000 on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 8:37am
Not "disrupting"- wasting people's time.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 9:07am
People have safety colleges when they apply. There are applications that are a waste of time for many college. I don’t think this young lady’s application put an undue burden on individual colleges.
by rmrd0000 on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 10:09am
114 safety colleges (2 rejected her) is a waste of fucking time for most - I'm simply not willing to debate that fact. How many schools that she never intended to go to put 30 minutes, an hour into processing this hot applicant's application, getting all excited at the remote possibility? Say 80 were in that category - that's a man-week or 2. How many phone calls were made, emails sent? Not every school has all their application processes automated. Does it help you process this to realize that 53 of those were "historically black colleges and universities"? She got over $4 million in scholarship offers, so assuming an average of 4x$25K, that's 40 scholarship packages that admissions offices spent time putting together. Really, it's arrogant and careless and by no means should be applauded. Despite the rising horrid tuition, many colleges - especially small private ones - are fighting for their lives. How will this case affect other applicants who might not be so sought after?
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 10:38am
It seems much ado about nothing. There may be a contest young people are having to see who can set the record.
First there where 20
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/30/health/teen-college-20-acceptances-trnd/index.html
Next 83
https://www.vibe.com/2018/04/black-teen-accepted-into-80-colleges/
Then 113
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/03/us/teenager-college-acceptance-scholarships.html
If there is competition over academic excellence for bragging rights, go for it.
by rmrd0000 on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 11:03am
Ever worked for a cash-strapped college trying to offer education to those who can barely afford it? I keep pointing out my tangible objections, including wasting scare education dollars for minorities, and you keep acting as if it's a game. No, don't "go for it", unless those kids are going to pay $200 per application, then "maybe". But North Carolina likely arranged free applications as help for the poorest, not a game to fritter away money - we already have Betty de Vos to do that.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 11:50am
Legislatures cutting budgets are likely more responsible for cash strapped colleges.
by rmrd0000 on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 6:56pm
You won't quit, will you.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 05/05/2018 - 3:14am
I simply don’t view this phenomenon as worthy of outrage. It seems to be very isolated.
by rmrd0000 on Sat, 05/05/2018 - 9:04am
Well good for you. I thought it sucked, and gave my reasons. "Isolated" or not. (and as you noted, the less outrageous 20 schools example wasn't that long ago). If this catches on as a trend and 5000 students apply to 115 schools, will you admit that it's then a problem and a dumb waste of schools' time and budget? Or when it's 50,000? Or never, because theoretically some legislature could give everyone $20 billion, so it's not her fault. (In which case, why didn't she take a computer from each school - it's the legislature's fault.)
And if North Carolina and others stop offering free applications to colleges, will you admit that's a drag since it hurts poor kids more than wealthy or middle-class ones?
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 05/05/2018 - 9:40am
Charging for applications disadvantages poor students. The other option would be for a line on the application asking how many college applications the student is making is one option. Hopefully the student would be honest. The other is a national registry. At this point, I don’t see a need for any action..
by rmrd0000 on Sat, 05/05/2018 - 11:12am
I never said there was "need for any action", except to stop praising it, though if schools find it onerous and abusive, they may. Hopefully the student would be reasonable, and not need a further control to be "honest"
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 05/05/2018 - 11:22am
I thought the newsworthy part was the part explaining how she did it (news to me), and also how once she got a few acceptances, how she decided to keep trying to see what would happen.
by artappraiser on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 11:29am
Well, anyone in day one of college hunting finds out about the applucation system. The novelty seems to be NC having a free application week to abuse. Normally a $100 app fee might limit such excess.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 11:54am
then I guess I should admit that it also made me think of that black college culcha loud and proud seeming to be a very hot thing of late
by artappraiser on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 3:15pm
adding more thoughts: I think there is a basic difference in the way I see Times pieces like this and a lot of the other main members on dagblog see them. I've come up against this enough times before to see where the clash is: with a lot of members here, everything is about political warfare and political messaging. and they are on the one team and have to censor anything that might help the other team. I.E., is this fuel for some political grist mill somewhere and the Times should stick with facts and not do that. I never looked at it that way, I am not on a political team, I don't like to color everything with politics. Over the decades, I go to the NYTimes for stories telling me about trends in the culture and I think that is this kind of story, where they take a one of or two examples and try to imply that it's becoming common. More's the pity that everyone sees that as fuel for somebody's political argument and they shouldn't be trying to report on trends because these would be outliers that fuel somebody or another's political argument. It is what it is, like trying to predict the future, granted, but I don't see anything wrong with that.
by artappraiser on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 3:28pm
I found my dad's stash of XXX novels, no pics, just stories, and I read them for fun!!! Some years later I discovered that Ann Rice wrote a XXX porn series based on the Sleeping Beauty fairy tale and I read that too, for fun!!!
by ocean-kat on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 12:22pm
Sounds like you're ready to write a XXX motivation letter to MCXXX schools.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 1:02pm
I'm in the process of writing an article about a small town girl who sent in applications for employment to every legal brothel in Nevada and received offers of employment from all of them. Small Town Girl Makes Good In The Big City is the headline. Of course she just did it for bragging rights. She only intended to work at the Desert Rose Gentleman's Club. It's a heart warming motivational story that will encourage other young girls, and perhaps even boys, to pursue their dreams.
by ocean-kat on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 1:38pm
Well, I'm snagged. "Kids, gather round - Uncle Peracles has a summer internship lined up for you. You'll hardly have to pay a thing."
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 4:10pm
Anyone with the academic credentials to get accepted into an Ivy League college could get accepted into hundreds of colleges with lesser admission standards. The number is theoretically limited by the number of colleges in America but effectively limited by the number of hours a person has to spend filling out applications. It boils down to how many hours a person needs to sleep and eat.
When asked what she would do next Jasmine said, "For a few months I did nothing but eat, sleep, and send out college applications. I got really good at all three. The experience was good training for a hot dog eating contest. I plan to enter since I think I can break that record too."
by ocean-kat on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 9:18pm