So I think we're still straddling the fence here, even though women brought to the US under false pretense or basically slavery is a no go, morally abhorrent.

But are we going to continue with the "you go girl" support for sex workers, that it's okay for them to sell their bodies, but not okay for men to buy their bodies? For many they've chosen to commerce themselves for survival - and we'll say that's understandable, while taking away the revenue from that chance of their chance of survival?

(and efforts to license prostitutes in Germany, get them on the tax and health records, have basically failed - unlike pot dispensaries, prostitution is not an area that lends itself to normalization.)

Why is it okay to make porn films for men & some women to get off on, to have women perform sex acts for pay in those, but not directly for the customer she's supposed to be titillating? is touch so bad? does sexual contact outside marriage or dating norms, in a transactional context, break the human?

And am I the only one to find these hidden cams with detailed description in The Daily Beast rather creepy, a form of state+media voyeurism?

“This is not about lonely old men and victimless crimes, this is about forcing women into our country for forced labor and sex,” Aronberg said.

Except the article focuses on lonely (or simply horny and busy) old men and a victimless crime (I pretty much see a handjob as less onerous than cleaning someone's teeth or performing a routine rectal exam or taking care of seniors/long-term patients or even cleaning someone's house in general)

I'd *like* to focus on the treatment of the immigrants, but everyone keeps getting lost in the easy shock stuff - famous football owner doing something dirty. Like why do people make money in the first place but to get more sex, travel, fancy homes/cars/boats/whatever.

Why does she wish she hadn't seen it? I've seen similar statements from young men with severe disabilities. Perhaps this is the so called gulf of understanding between men and women that can't be crossed. Perhaps it's cultural. Perhaps it's biological, the effects of high testosterone or evolution in general. For what ever reason men seem to have a sex drive that exceeds women's. We can mostly agree on the problems of prostitution. How it mostly comes out of a sexist culture that often deprives women of meaningful economic choices. How it's often coercive and oppressive. If we had a less puritanical culture we could regulate prostitution to protect women. Would it still be "disgusting" for a 77 year old man to pay to get a hand job? Is it some how less disgusting for an old man to masturbate? Or should men of a certain age simply stop having orgasms?