MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
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Keisha Lance Bottoms for VP?
By PeraclesPlease on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 4:26pm |URL:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2020/05/30/is-the-time-of-keisha-lance-bottoms-now/
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Absolutely highly qualified, she doesn't pass the buck, does straight talk not spin, didn't equivocate, not blaming "outside agitators", told her people exactly what they have to do to effect change and exactly what they had to stop doing that was only hurting themselves, called them on their bullshit, invited outside voices, stood up for her own police chief doing the right thing, etc. Should Biden die, I can see her handling a "team of rivals: with skill and dispatch. Watch it if you haven't:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/05/30/keisha-lance-bottoms-full-address-atlanta-protests-vpx.wgcl
by artappraiser on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 10:37pm
I know that you love that she is telling "them" what "they" need to hear.
To receive a boost, a critical mass of "them" will to have to voice support for her.
She may have the Killer Mike vote.
Also, like Stacey Abrams, she lacks foreign policy experience.
by rmrd0000 on Sun, 05/31/2020 - 2:45pm
Having a reasonably good memory, I can reference the snark regarding your previous encounters with PP regarding candidates and their limitations. Marking other people's motivations is not very informative to those outside the loops of such arguments. Both PP and you form such a loop together.
Putting all that to the side and speaking for yourself, do you have an objection to Ms. Bottoms as a VP candidate?
by moat on Sun, 05/31/2020 - 3:21pm
I have.no personal objection to Ms. Lance Bottoms. My observation centered around why PP found her acceptable.
Harris is my favorite. Biden still has my vote if he picks Warren, Abrams, etc. I don't base my vote for Biden on whether or not he picks Lance Bottoms.
by rmrd0000 on Sun, 05/31/2020 - 4:57pm
Ok, I'll fess up - cuz she's a Suthner, dammit - better than no Yankee varmint or smartass California D.A. Homegrown folk.
And if we got Atlanta, we'll take the South like Sherman thru Georgia. That's jes like basic cipherin'.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 05/31/2020 - 5:09pm
Thanks for the straight up response.
by moat on Sun, 05/31/2020 - 5:28pm
Still no clue what you think I like. I'm looking for someone who knows how to take charge, who doesn't sound like a campaign ad, who can deal with 2 or more of our critical problems, who can take over if an elderly President dies, who stands a chance of working with other people and forming consensus, who can be a badass when needs to be, who has the street cred to bring the crowd forward. And smart enough not to get trapped in the stupider partisan battles. No, this election won't be decided on foreign policy, except for how it feels to be pwned by Russia and other assorted Rogue's Gallery honorary members.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 05/31/2020 - 5:45pm
First, there are many of "them" (us whiteys?) that already hear.
Many others may be persuaded if the message is on business & fairness,
and mothers protecting their babies - not "burn it to the ground".
Yeah, she was a cooler head than I would be.
Killer Mike aside from his t-shirt was also focused.
Does anyone care about foreign policy right now?
Coronavirus & riots/rebuilding - that's likely the equation the next 5 months,
unless shuffles the shit sandwich as he's wont to do.
Keisha's handling a riot & pandemic & Atlanta being Atlanta,
London Breed's been handling a pandemic & homelessness.
I don't think the world's waiting for Staey Abrams to step up -
and though I found her a positive voice, I think the lobbying for VP
has killed her chance.
But I'm just 1 voice.
Anyway, it's not 1984 or 1982 or 2008 or 2016.
The dynamic's definitely shifted.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 05/31/2020 - 4:00pm
Gonna be blunt. Stacey Abrams increasingly appears as if the only thing she really cares about is the Stacey Abrams persona and reputation. I've had quite enough narcissist issues for a lifetime, thank you but no thank you. If I cared I might make a scale with Trump and De Blasio already on it and then try to place her somewhere on the scale, but why waste the time? There are plenty of others who seem interested in a job of actual governing and not just running for higher office 24/7.
by artappraiser on Sun, 05/31/2020 - 8:00pm
Many here are making a huge leap of faith based on one speech. I'd have to know a lot more about a person before I'd support them for an important job
by ocean-kat on Sun, 05/31/2020 - 6:40pm
Christ you guys are a bunch of scolds - it's almost 3 months out til convention.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 05/31/2020 - 6:51pm