Do you just live for being a jerk? Sure seems like it. You are a pitiful creature.

You've just answered my question above. Jerk.

Oberman, besides putting up significant money, is taking a stand which could cost him his job. True, he has established himself as a draw in a niche market and is making money for MSNBC, but that is no guarantee at all. Somebody help me remember the name of the daytime tv show host, a liberal who had very high ratings, that lost his show after criticizing the Bush administration and its policies.

Lulu - $50,000 is not significant for someone as rich as KO is. And he is doing nothing that might cost him his job.

How is it possible that he could lose his job? He has a huge following and unless he pulls an Imus he won't lose his job.

Giving that speech on healthcare wasn't putting his job at risk at all.

The $50,000 he contributed - that could pay a person or two's salary. It is not significant either to him or them. Had he put up a couple million dollars, then I would agree with you

Olbermann doesn't deserve the gushing praise he is getting here. $50,000 is not equal to all people. It's easy for KO to piss away $50k. For me, it's not easy at all. There's a difference. It's a rounding error for him and not worthy of the praise people are giving it.

This is kind of a pointless argument: MCB in a rare stroke of socialism correctly identifies the vast wage gap in this country. Accounting for the tax deduction, too, $50 000 is literally nothing to some people.

I was just kidding, but HedgeFundBill does have a point despite his personal flaws. Olbermann can probably deduct the entire $50 000 and, ironically, many less well-to-do folks contributing an even relatively smaller sum cannot.

The organisation gets the cash, sure, so it is not all bad.

Well, I should not say "ironically", since benefiting the rich is the intent, not an accident.

Olbermann doesn't give a rats ass about $50,000. It is important to the non-profit, but that doesn't mean that everyone on TPM needs to gush praise on Keith for being so wonderful. If he really cared about it he would have given alot more.

As I pointed out, donating $50 000 to a charity probably comes out to $0 at the end of the year for him.

Great for the charity? Sure. Great sacrifice for him? Not so much.

If it actually costs him nothing, then it is a crime others with his wealth are not doing the same. Going after him for not enough is absurd. 5% of something is better then 100% of nothing, and $50,000 is always a lot of money. I know wealthy people who would cry if they had to give that kind of money away.

Yes I donated money, not $50,000, but 2,000 and I am currently arranging for the org to use the Civic Center in Butte for the clinic. I already have dates chosen, and I will head to Butte at the end of next week to talk to the hospital lab etc because those services will be necessary.

But the 0 dollars you've donated is worth so much more and the 0 ideas you have to help others, also worth so much more than Keith etc, I mean you are just such a great guy...
Can you say "green eyed monster" it seems your jealousy of Keiths wealth is clouding your ability to see the good. So not shocking ClasslessBill.

Not quite. I have donated money to causes that I feel strongly about. I also sat on the board of a non-profit where I help raise money and also manage the finances.

How much? The guy is probably worth at least $10mm (or more?) So maybe if he gave $500,000 I would say "wow that's a big number".

But $50,000? That amount certainly doesn't translate into the gushing lovefest that people on here have for Keith since his monologue earlier in the week. And $50,000 from Keith doesn't justify the "Hey, Olbermann gave money, so you should too".

I don't consider that leadership or putting his money where his mouth is.

I bet he tips his doorman more than that every year.

I am being critical of others saying that his contribution is an example of leadership. I also don't believe that it is "putting his money where his mouth is". Every dollar is valuable to the charity, but that doesn't mean that because Keith gives $50,000 that others should follow his "leadership".

It DOES matter how much money he has because if he's worth $20 million, then a $50,000 contribution isn't really leadership because I bet he spends more than that every year tipping his doorman at his NYC apartment or on gourmet food for his pure bred dog.

I am not "going after" Olbermann. I am critical of people saying that because he put up such a sizeable amount (in their view) that it somehow justifies others contributing.

That's pretty funny. I would never be jealous of a wingnut like Olbermann.

I am not bitching about how much he should have given. I have not written a blog that says "He's a hypocrite". If he wants to give money to charities, more power to him.

What I am saying is that people shouldn't praise him just because he gave $50,000. It is NOT a sign of "leadership" nor is it "putting his money where his mouth is". Not for someone who is worth tens of millions.

So sayeth the sage lowclassBill. He passes judgment for all to read, not good enough.

So full of artless jealousy is guilt It spills itself in fearing to be spilt. (Hamlet, Hamlet Prince of Denmark (Gertrude, Queen of Denmark at IV, v)
Ahh so many appropriate quotes and so little time to post them.

Interesting theory...feel free to think I am jealous of Keith. I like how you seem so certain that you know me and think I haven't donated any money or tried to help others. Yet you've never met me. But you're so quick to judge others without knowing them?

Notice that I haven't made any such negative comments about you since I don't know you.

Okay you just judge people you know like Keith, your former friend I guess.
"If malice or envy were tangible and had a shape, it would be the shape of a boomerang". Charley Reese, Journalist.

Public figures are different than someone else on a blog. I know he's a multi-millionaire and I know he contributed $50,000 to the charity. I can have a reasonable opinion that $50,000 is not a lot of money to someone who's worth that much.

What I don't do is tell people that I don't know that they are "lowclass" and give zero to charity.

Karl - how does he potentially end up with the same amount of money. The $50,000 is a deduction, not a credit. His tax bill is not reduced by $50,000 as a result of the charitable contribution.

And you know and have met Olbermann? You are nothing but hot air and bullshit.

Then don't respond. But I am allowed to comment

$50,000

Why does it come out to zero?

If Keith had $1 million of taxable income and a 35% rate prior to making the charitable donation, his tax bill would be $350,000

If he decided to make a $50,000 contribution, his taxable income goes down to $950,000 and his tax bill goes to $332,500.

So paying $50,000 only reduces his taxes by $17,500. So he's still worse off by $32,500

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