MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Nato has agreed at a meeting of defence ministers in Brussels to move warships in the Mediterranean closer to Libya to increase surveillance and monitor the arms embargo against the country.
There will be no extra ships but only a repositioning of those already there, falling far short of the military intervention called for by Britain and France.
The Nato secretary general, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, said the organisation would also look at plans to re-enforce the arms embargo on Libya.
Both moves are minimal and represent a victory for the US and Germany, which are opposed to military intervention, in particular the no-fly zone backed by Britain and France. Unless there is an atrocity in Libya, the chances of military intervention are increasingly slim.
Rasmussen set out three conditions for Nato intervention....
Also see from Gaddafi takes key towns as Nato squabbles over Libya action:
• Nato was left paralysed as the US joined Germany in blocking the imposition of a no-fly zone supported by Britain and France. Robert Gates, the US defence secretary, said at a meeting of Nato defence ministers in Brussels that contingency planning for a no-fly zone would continue, before adding "that's the extent of it".
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German foreign minister:
from Germany Not Alone In Skepticism Of N Africa Action - Minister , by Frances Robinson in Brussels, Dow Jones Newswire, March 10.
from Qaddafi Mounts Offensive as NATO Holds Back on No-Fly Zone, by Ola Galal and Jonathan Tirone, Bloomberg News, March 10, 2011
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 8:11pm
More detail on the disagreements. I have highlighted a statement by Gates because I suspect it may be meant refer to the Arab League rather than just general regional opinion:
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 8:30pm
U.S. Intelligence Chief Clapper tells Senate that Gadhafi is likely to survive revolt, which results in Lindsey Graham calling for his firing. (And NSA Donilon says whatever USAID does "can in no way shape or form be seen as military intervention"):
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 8:59pm
WaPo: Clinton to meet with rebel leaders and that the USAID team ,which Donilon stresses in above CNN article as humanitarian only, will go to rebel territory:
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 11:27pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 11:15pm
I fear for the Libyan rebels if Gaddafi retakes the entire country.
by Donal on Fri, 03/11/2011 - 8:34am
Yup, fates worse than death.
On the one hand in so many ways it seems crazy to think he could control it for long, but then there's always the other hand, like look at North Korea....
I've always found one thing about "al Qaeda" theory quite striking--the "we love death more than you love life" thing. If you don't value life, a lot can be done that people that do value it think is impossible. On Libya I was thinking along the lines of U.S. in Iraq or NATO in Afghanistan, how even without major weapons, rebels can just keep on keepin' on. But that's only because we value life. If you get as tough as North Korea and are willing to eradicate the lives causing the problem, the sabotage or long-term rebellion thing just isn't that troublesome.
by artappraiser on Fri, 03/11/2011 - 7:55pm
Note they are calling on the Arab League to do the same and for the Arab League to call on the UN Security Council to impose a no fly zone. So clearly Saudi Arabia is on board with doing that. The press release Forbes is quoting is official Saudi government messaging.
by artappraiser on Fri, 03/11/2011 - 8:09pm
The Financial Times has Arab League source saying meeting on Saturday will back a no-fly zone. In my experiemce, The FT is usually quite accurate with their diplomatic source stories:
by artappraiser on Fri, 03/11/2011 - 11:45pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 1:45am