MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE by Michael Wolraich Order today at Barnes & Noble / Amazon / Books-A-Million / Bookshop |
Our review of federal cases suggests that many of those in the mob were not organized, but some groups, like the Proud Boys, came prepared for battle.
By Jennifer Valentino-DeVries, Grace Ashford, Denise Lu, Eleanor Lutz, Alex Leeds Matthews and Karen Yourish @ NYTimes.com, Feb. 4, has pictures of each when available with names and charges
26 are charged with conspiracy crimes or assault
43 are charged with interference with law enforcement, weapons crimes, threats or property crimes but not conspiracy or assault
107 are charged with trespassing or disrupting Congress only
In the weeks since the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, federal prosecutors have announced criminal charges against more than 175 people — less than a quarter of those involved in the melee, but enough to provide a rough portrait of the mob and the sprawling investigation into its actions.
At least 21 of those charged so far had ties to militant groups and militias, according to court documents and other records. At least 22 said they were current or former members of the military. More than a dozen were clear supporters of the conspiracy theory QAnon. But a majority expressed few organizing principles, outside a fervent belief in the false assertion that President Donald J. Trump had won re-election.
The accused came from at least 39 states, as far away as Hawaii. At least three were state or local officials, and three were police officers. Some were business owners; others were unemployed or made their living as conservative social media personalities. Many made comments alluding to revolution and violence, while others said the protests had been largely peaceful.
A New York Times review of federal cases through the end of January suggests that many of those in the horde were likely disorganized, but some groups and individuals came to the events of Jan. 6 trained and prepared for battle. The early charges set the stage for those to come as the Justice Department promises to prosecute even those accused of misdemeanor trespass and also devotes resources to more serious crimes, like conspiracy and homicide [.....]
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by artappraiser on Thu, 02/04/2021 - 3:46pm
some reminders of the extent of the Fed surveillance reach so far on these two threads
but with everyone tracking everyone else on social media and everyone taking and posting (and altering in some cases) cell phone videos of all kinds of activities, I honestly don't know how much traction can be gotten from this any more except from extremist libertarians left and right.
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/04/2021 - 4:01pm
one thing various Big Brothers can now do if they so desire:
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/06/2021 - 7:03pm
Tulsi is being consistent. Other leftist radicals are not:
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 4:52pm
Tulsi? Tulsi Gabbard?
Sheeesh. Beware...
She's one of the most transparent right-wing plants in the liberal's garden.
~OGD~
by oldenGoldenDecoy on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 6:01pm
She flew to Syria right after Trump was elected to meet with Assad. It is difficult to see what that is consistent with.
by moat on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 10:21pm
consistent about not wanting Patriot Act type investigations and prosecutions of either left or right radicals and extremists in the U.S. Of course, that's just a weird flip of American exceptionalism, as such people can spend time with foreign leaders who don't offer those niceties to their own citizens. the no-police-state thing, that's just for Americans, maybe some people just need a stronger regime. It's actually that's driven me crazy about lots of far lefties from like the Jacobins to Castro, they always know better what the people need than the people do but they yell at everyone else about the same kind of hypocrisy.
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/06/2021 - 12:45am
The double standard is on display there; But it includes the neocons Tulsi purports to be opposing.
It is the old Bush Doctrine that canceled international law in pursuit of national security without allowing for a way to influence the environment in some other way. Rand Paul is more consistent by not accepting that other places even exist.
by moat on Sat, 02/06/2021 - 7:29pm
In one post above there is a link to Thomas Chatterton Williams criticizing Kali Holloway
Holloway writes for the Nation and supports prison abolition
She admits that she wants the white supremacists put in jail/prison
She recognizes the conflict
In the article, there is a link to an article by two prison abolitionists
The Atlantic article addresses the conflict
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/stop-right-wing-extremism-without-bolstering-police-power/617759/
I don't see prison abolition happening anytime soon. I do agree that there should be programs that attempt to change criminal behavior. Reading the Atlantic article, I fail to see the cognitive dissonance suggested by Thomas Chatterton Williams. Put the Capitol rioters in jail. The QAnon shaman guy has already been transferred to a prison where he can receive organic food.
by rmrd0000 on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 10:52pm
quote from the article emphasized by retweet by Maggie Haberman:
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/04/2021 - 4:19pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/04/2021 - 5:23pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/04/2021 - 5:24pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 3:38am
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 4:30am
looking at up to 222 more:
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 12:58pm
A lot whiter than I remember...
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 1:38pm
That was back in the good old days when liberals believed in integration.
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 3:17pm
Don't we have biracial riots?
(not sure where the Hispanics are - have to ask them)
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 3:25pm
oh I have to admit you're right there; last night I was just looking at this Sept. thread BODYCAM SHOWS OFFICER-INVOLVED SHOOTING THAT SPARKED LANCASTER, PENNS. PROTESTS and here's a nice interracial mix of perp photos I posted at the end of it:
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 4:09pm
p.s. an even more worthwhile Sept. thread worth a glance for "compare and contrast with certain dagblog reactions to Capitol riot" is this much longer one
FATAL POLICE SHOOTING OF WALTER WALLACE JR. PROMPTS HEATED OVERNIGHT PROTESTS IN WEST PHILLY
over 200 businesses affected, many of them black-owned, was just a shrug, a nothing burger and I live in a bubble
Interesting that when the news came out that the father of the victim didn't go along with the "outrage" reaction to how the calls about his son were handled, that's when we all stopped discussing what happened in Philly....
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 4:07pm
p.p.s. I noticed that Teixiera does very much mention where many Hispanics are on the BLM thing in this article I posted; he doesn't go into Qanon and Majorie Greene and Trumpie wingnut Capitol Riot type shit, though. And ya know what, Dems should be polling on that! Try to get some vision 20/20 now instead of always this hindsight 20/20 thing!
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 4:17pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/06/2021 - 5:46pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/06/2021 - 10:08pm