MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE by Michael Wolraich Order today at Barnes & Noble / Amazon / Books-A-Million / Bookshop |
Assange’s position was rife with ironies. An unwavering advocate of full, unfettered disclosure of primary-source material, Assange was now seeking to keep highly sensitive information from reaching a broader audience. He had become the victim of his own methods: someone at WikiLeaks, where there was no shortage of disgruntled volunteers, had leaked the last big segment of the documents, and they ended up at The Guardian in such a way that the paper was released from its previous agreement with Assange—that The Guardian would publish its stories only when Assange gave his permission. Enraged that he had lost control, Assange unleashed his threat, arguing that he owned the information and had a financial interest in how and when it was released.
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I haven't read it yet, but skimming it but I can see this is the kind of info. I have been looking for, thank you--I would have probably missed it. Reading a lot regularly from both the Guardian and the NYT on the diplomatic dump, and seeing a lot of the stories that they also published reporting on Assange himself and on the wikileaks organization, I really started to get the sense that there was a lot of tension going on between Assange and the big media partners, and kept wishing someone check into that story.
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 3:08pm
I have not read it yet either but if you missed this Greenwald article you might be interested in checking it out. It deals with the Guardian's and other media's misrepresentation of some of the issues involving Assange.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/12/propaganda/...
by A Guy Called LULU on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 7:37pm
I haven't read it yet either, but I'm sure I would either love it, hate it or feel something in between.
by kyle flynn on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 12:23am
Not sure what your point is or if you even have one but I will try to make my point more clearly since you seem to have missed it.
The point was that Greenwaldt shows how the Guardian published an article accusing Assange of doing something potentially quite harmful which was actually done by the Guardian. Of course you would have had to follow my link and read it to know this, but I did not need to have already read the Vanity Fair article [I have now] to know that AA gets a lot of information about Assange from the Guardian. She says so above. This false accusation about Assange, which the Guardian published, was then picked up by many other news outlets. The affect is to de-legitimize and demonize Assange, something I "get the sense" that AA buys into. Because she has been getting a lot of information from the Guardian about Assange I thought she might be interested in what Greenwaldt reveals in his article. Otherwise she might have missed it. Greenwaldt makes his case quite clearly. If you read him you might like what he says, or hate it, or something in between, but I expect that you will believe what he documents.
by A Guy Called LULU on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 3:00am
The Salon article you cite raises some interesting questions itself that I'd like supporters of Assange to answer. Personally, I don't think Assange is evil, but nor do I think that Wikileaks is an unadulterated good thing.
1) Was it wrong for the Guardian to release that information?
2) Would the Guardian have had that information had it not been for Wikileaks?
The second question is mostly rhetorical, unless you think the answer is no. In which case, I'm interested in the explanation. As for the first question, if your answer is no, then that's perfectly consistent with being a unqualified supporter of Assange. If your answer is yes, however, I'm wondering how exactly that line is drawn, and who gets to draw it? (Note: I'm not addressing the obvious double-standards and hypocrisy when it comes to the Guardian exactly because they are obvious. I feel the need to mention this because I'm afraid otherwise people are going to think I'm defending the Guardian.)
by Atheist (not verified) on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 10:38am
1) Was it wrong for the Guardian to release that information?
Which information do you refer to? In general, I believe it to be absolutely correct for the Guardian to release the information it received from Wikileaks. The specific question of propriety addressed in Greenwaldt's article comes from the release of a particular bit which revealed the name of a person who might be put in jeopardy by that release, information that should have been redacted. Most people would consider that to be a mistake and to be wrong. The point of Greenwaldt's article is that the Guardian made the mistake. They are the entity that released that information to the world and therefore to those that might harm the person named. The Guardian then published a story that said Assange was the one who made the mistake. There is no question who was the delinquent party in that case, it was the Guardian.
I have a question for you. Do you recognize the difference between being an unqualified supporter of Assange and being a strong supporter of a particular action performed by Assange?
2) Would the Guardian have had that information had it not been for Wikileaks?
I have no reason to believe that the Guardian or any other news source would have any classified information that was not leaked to them or to someone or some group which would then pass it on to them.
by A Guy Called LULU on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 12:24pm
For both #1 and #2, I was referring to the piece of information (regarding Morgan Tsvangirai) that Assange wanted redacted, but that the Guardian did not redact.
by Atheist (not verified) on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 12:28pm
How about the question I posed to you regarding support of Assange?
by A Guy Called LULU on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 12:41pm
Absolutely. I myself am a strong supporter of many particular actions of Assange, but I am not an unqualified supporter of his.
by Atheist (not verified) on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 12:46pm
Drivel.
1. Dozens of negative adjectives to smear Assange.
2. An embarrassingly failed attempt to wrap their mind around the Guardian.
3. The great insight that the Guardian and Assange are... complete opposites! Matter and anti-matter! EXCEPT when they work together, hand in glove.
4. Then the opening quote, where Assange is apparently shown to be a hypocrite. Except that the article also says that The Guardian gave Assange "a letter signed by the Guardian editor saying you won't publish package 3 until I say so." Which kindof means... Assange was in the right.
5. And they nailn Assange for publishing those 250,000 notes, without redaction, except that... he didn't. As Greenwald notes. It was THE GUARDIAN which selected and published the names.
6. Nice touch to conclude with a quote from someone who's fallen out with Assange, saying that he's like one of the pigs in Animal Farm.
This article was a case study in how far the American media has fallen. But it's the kind of stuff that keeps getting linked here. People should be smart enough by now to sidestep the crap laden with personalized Assange hate (or hype.)
by quinn esq on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:37pm
What about those Reuters journalists who were gunned down by our military? Whatever became of the ones responsible? Is there any attempt to hold anyone accountable for this murder of innocents?
And now that I think about it...
By my calculation, it is now approaching eight months since U.S. Citizen Bradley Manning has been held in detention under questionable circumstance (torture?). Has he yet been brought before a judge for an arraignment to hear whatever charges are being made against him? Last I heard, he was undergoing a mental evaluation, Is this to assess his present mental and emotional stability? Or is it instead an effort to "get his mind right" for whenever the time is chosen to actually introduce him (and his captors) to the Rule of Law?
There are a lot of questions that the wikileaks story raises in my mind. What kind of a pissing match might (or might not) be ongoing between Assange and The Guardian simply isn't one that really stirs my curiosity.
Sorry, but this seems more like turning on the TV to see the news and finding Entertainment Nightly in its place. WTF, the news really couldn't be all that interesting anyway, so we might as well grab the popcorn and enjoy the show, eh?
by SleepinJeezus on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 10:37am
Hey Sleepin'. I guess I've been disturbed by the Assange thing because the very people who should be excited about this new development - one which I regard as huge - have instead fallen face-first into the personal stuff. The substance of the leaks, the historic nature of what's changed - these things have faded back into the wallpaper.
I mean, Sarah Ellison is SUPPOSED to be a "serious" reporter, right? She was at the WSJ for 10 years, knows a lot about Murdoch and his machinations, and now - this big piece on The Guardian and Wikileaks.
But take just this little paragraph. And read it knowing that the media has turned over the fact of his rape charges, and the condom breaking, about 1001 times. Watch what she does with it:
The Guardian, like other media outlets, would come to see Assange as someone to be handled with kid gloves, or perhaps latex ones—too alluring to ignore, too tainted to unequivocally embrace. Assange would come to see the mainstream media as a tool to be used and discarded, and at all times treated with suspicion.
Ever so cute, eh? Latex. Alluring. Tainted. Used and discarded. etc.
This reporter is just another empty-headed ass writing for the big American media machinery that just cannot seem to get enough of this sort of cellar-dwelling.
I guess what really intrigues me, and what I see as historic - a shifting of the plates that underlay our society - is that Wikileaks shows us, in a big way, that we have a powerful new tool, and forum, for getting at the guts of what goes on with the great powers and towers of the age - the corporation and the government. Both state and market are terrified of this shit, and so they should be.
It's like the printing press hitting the church, and we're not even discussing it. I just read Steven Johnson's book on innovation, and he points out that the major use of the printing press in its early decades was... printing indulgences for the church. In other words, the powers of the age used it, and the printers had to accept it, because that's what made them money. But it fed an extreme overreach by the church, and more importantly, fuelled a backlash that eventually tore the old world in two.
But here, instead of discussing that, we're actually into whether or not Gutenberg had a drinking problem, and whether his relations with Cardinal Vickers are the best possible.
Anyhoo. Good to see you. And yes. Bradley's in jail, and Assange is under arrest, and nobody gives a shit. Welcome to the Working Week.
by quinn esq on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 11:40am
What is interesting to me about this piece is that WikiLeaks clearly seems to be a herd of cats, which is not that unexpected if you read the book Underground. That Assange's ego should conflict with those of the journos should be no surprise, nor should it be surprising that they turned on him just like many of his followers.
by Donal on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 9:18am
Donal, that is an excellent description! I love it.
by tmccarthy0 on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 9:28am
by Donal on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 10:35am
Only slightly off-topic, but related, and germane to the future of whistle-blowing, this administration has prosecuted more whistleblowers than any previous President. His DoJ has even renewed a subpoena to compel testimony from James Risen who is an heroic figure to me and many other Americans, exposing a botched CIA mission that may have accidentally given nuclear secrets to Iran.
Thomas Drake's prosecution is afoot; his crime was trying to SAVE millions of dollars being wasted in wiretapping schemes, not to DERAIL the program, but make it more tech efficient.. He went to the Baltimore Sun to expose it, as no one in the program would take notice of his advice. (The waste was a bit of a scandal for some small amount of time.) He faces prison time if convicted. Eric Holder and Obama's DoJ are worse than idiotic on leaks; if these prosecutiuons happened under Bush, Dems would be livid.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/12/us/politics/12leak.html?pagewanted=2&_r=2&hp
by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 12:37pm