MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Ran across this "glass half full, not half empty" argument on topic yesterday:
I don't see much golden in the olden-tyme partisan style journalism, I think the movement to make it a profession with objectivity goals in the 20th century was a good thing, i.e. "progress". But I try to keep an open mind, because: there's no going back on everyone having the powah of the printing press with cell phones and the internet. So if that was progress, we can't really have it anymore, just reality.
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/12/2019 - 3:09pm
They're safe as ling as they don't have any assets to sell iff (real estate, printing press, trucks, kids...)
https://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2019/02/the-ultimate-cash-flow-mercenary...
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 02/13/2019 - 1:48am
I agree with your thinking about objective journalism. But also, this is a terrible article. Worse yet it's from a magazine that built it's reputation on tech savvy analysis of the digital age. That one can find similarities between the lack of objectivity of revolutionary war era journalism and today doesn't mean that history is repeating itself. There are more than two ways and this could, and imo is, something new. It's not like the money isn't there are that there isn't a large audience for objective news. It's that a large majority of those ad dollars are going to monopolies, google and facebook, that set prices as they choose and produce no content. They take the lion's share of the money doing nothing more than linking you to the content producers. One would expect Wired to offer an astute analysis of this issue.
And why is it that these right wing screeds always have to lie and insult?
If the public subscribed to see the president endlessly roasted there are many free sites to do that. Free sites that are much more vicious and much less objective than the WP and the NYT. In fact it's the conservative never Trumper sites that are the most viciously anti-Trump. As I saw it there was a tremendous backlash against fake news after Hillary lost and a feeling that it helped Trump win. Many publications like the WP and the NYT made a heavy push to point out that if people want quality news they need to help pay for it. People responded by subscribing to the most objective and comprehensive news sites, the WP and the NYT. Yes they lean left but still of all the news, the most objective and comprehensive. There is a huge appetite for news and if it wasn't for google and facebook sucking up most of the ad dollars we could have an incredibly robust news media in the internet age.
by ocean-kat on Wed, 02/13/2019 - 4:26pm
Let's say they subscribed to the 2 best known names in print journalism, not coincidentally in New York & Washington (hey, where Amazon also chose its 2 new Headquarters). "Objectivity" has been pretty poor on some of the most important stories, with the NY Times continuing to take anonymous shill feeds from somewhere in the cabinet or the GOP that feeds their bullshit line on things. Elsewhere Carole Cadwalladr/Guardian & Ronan Farrow & Jane Mayer (New Yorker) and Mother Jones (becoming I think more respectable/thorough) and a ton of Twitterverse citizen/independent journalists have kept up some of the neglected / distorted side of these important stories. We saw this a decade ago when Firedog Lake was covering the Bradley Manning trial in Quantico south of DC, while none of the major news outlets would take the time.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 02/13/2019 - 4:43pm
Interesting, that related is an issue in Japan right now:
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/13/2019 - 8:04pm
Damn wimmin won't stay in their place.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 02/13/2019 - 11:34pm
One news site, the Daily Banter cited Facebook as the cause for shifting to an email subscription model. Facebook closed off the revenue stream
https://thedailybanter.com/2019/02/11/the-daily-banter-is-closing-down/
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 02/12/2019 - 4:56pm
That is very interesting, thanks for sharing it. Certainly shows up the highly generalized advice from supposed business experts along the lines of "you've got to get on social media" to be sorely lacking in nuance. It should be more like: you need to be careful about trusting social media companies with all your blood sweat and tears. Seems like a variant of the "balance your portfolio" thing should apply...
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/12/2019 - 5:08pm