"The Green New Deal Would Spend the U.S. Into Oblivion"

By artappraiser on Fri, 02/08/2019 - 11:59pm |

Not a good sign when you've lost this guy:

My rough back-of-the-envelope calculations are that the Green New Deal, as currently, constituted, would cost upwards of $6.6 trillion per year.

That's 35 times as much as Trump's tax cuts, and 10 times as much as America's entire military.

It's a lot.https://t.co/V1OrDRASYL
— Noah Smith (@Noahpinion) February 8, 2019

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https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-02-08/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-s-green-new-deal-is-unaffordable

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At 25% a VAT would raise about $2.1 trillion per year.

We are still going to need a big payroll/income tax increase. https://t.co/AELTm0s8UX
— Kyle Pomerleau (@kpomerleau) February 8, 2019

by artappraiser on Sat, 02/09/2019 - 12:09am

The saga of the Green New Deal explainer that got taken down from Ocasio-Cortez' website (and which I wrote a post about) is getting weirder and weirder.https://t.co/S7Sy5d4Dqy
— Noah Smith (@Noahpinion) February 9, 2019

by artappraiser on Sat, 02/09/2019 - 6:31pm

More on the "scrubbing" of the "'splainer":

Ocasio-Cortez had a detailed “FAQ” explanation of the “Green New Deal” on her website, which NPR reported her office also sent to them directly for their story on the proposal. It has received criticism. She now says it was merely “a draft version that got uploaded + taken down.” https://t.co/5QvuMByYek
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) February 9, 2019

by artappraiser on Sat, 02/09/2019 - 7:49pm

#1 most read story over @ Politico.com right now:

‘It's crazy. It's loony': Republicans giddy as Democrats champion Green New Deal

Republicans hope their opponents may drift so far to the left that they will be more vulnerable in 2020.

By Anthony Adragna & Zack Colman, 02/09/2019 06:40 AM EST

by artappraiser on Sat, 02/09/2019 - 7:17pm

For the record, Trump's loving it, though I for one have little faith in his politico chops, I doubt he even understands his own base anymore:

I think it is very important for the Democrats to press forward with their Green New Deal. It would be great for the so-called “Carbon Footprint” to permanently eliminate all Planes, Cars, Cows, Oil, Gas & the Military - even if no other country would do the same. Brilliant!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 9, 2019

Oddity noted: Sarcasm is a rare tactic for him, probably got it from Fox News somewhere?

by artappraiser on Sat, 02/09/2019 - 8:25pm

Lol, 15,664 comments on this article @ The Hill in 14 hrs: Trump divides Democrats with warning of creeping socialism Even if the comments are all made by bots, looking like socialism is gonna be the hot button thing for the foreseeable future.

by artappraiser on Sun, 02/10/2019 - 9:35am

Good big-picture point from self-identified "unemployed Jewish guy":

I'm not prepared to get into the weeds re Green New Deal, but as a general point: you can't make massive, urgently necessary changes to everyone's way of life without also creating true universal safety nets. At least not if you want it to be politically viable! https://t.co/1lWYF4pHFd
— David Klion (@DavidKlion) February 9, 2019

by artappraiser on Sat, 02/09/2019 - 7:57pm

Reality-based message from boots on the ground:

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California Gov. Gavin Newsom abandoning plan for high-speed train from Los Angeles to San Francisco, says too costly.
— Nick Riccardi (@NickRiccardi) February 12, 2019

by artappraiser on Tue, 02/12/2019 - 3:18pm

Senate thrilled, gonna vote on it:

It's official: @senatemajldr says the Senate will vote on the Green New Deal championed by @AOC . The GOP is almost giddy about the idea of putting Dems on record on these progressive ideas
— Rachael Bade (@rachaelmbade) February 12, 2019

Trump's blather last night about taking away your cars: no coincidence.

by artappraiser on Tue, 02/12/2019 - 5:53pm

Schumer slams ‘stunt’ Green New Deal vote as moderates fret

By Anthony Adragna @ Politico.com, 02/14/2019 03:01 PM EST

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said Democrats would not be intimidated by the “cynical stunt” of voting on the Green New Deal resolution, even as moderate members of his caucus distanced themselves from the sweeping climate change goals.

Schumer said the "amazing irony" of Majority Leader Mitch McConnell bringing up a resolution Republicans intend to vote against is a sign of why the American people hate Congress. He demanded the Kentucky Republican acknowledge the scientific consensus around climate change and commit the chamber to tackling the problem [....]

by artappraiser on Fri, 02/15/2019 - 12:33am

The Green New Deal was a stunt. Of course the republicans are going to play along with a stunt of their own. For a while I gave AOC a pass because she's young but it's beginning to look like she's just stupid.

by ocean-kat on Fri, 02/15/2019 - 2:40am

Or else it's smart cop/stupid cop and she moves the goalposts, at which point we can implement something more carerful and thought out, vs having no margin to implement anything (how were Obama's careful climate moves at Doha or wherever? I don't recall any exciting outcomes - lots of "lets not piss off conservatives too much")

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/15/2019 - 3:09am

Res ipsa loquitor:

“And then, almost as quickly as it had inflated, the green bubble burst. Between January 2008 and January 2009, the percentage of Americans who told the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press that the environment was a “top priority” dropped from 56% to 41%.” https://t.co/v5yz0i5t5w
— David Wallace-Wells (@dwallacewells) March 7, 2019

by artappraiser on Fri, 03/08/2019 - 4:20pm

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