‘I Am Spanish’: Thousands in Barcelona Protest a Push for Independence

By artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2017 - 7:38pm |

Thousands rallied in Barcelona, Spain, on Sunday in
support of a united Spanish state and against
agitators for independence. Credit Pau Barrena/
Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

By Jason Horowitz & Patrick Kinsley @ NYTimes.com, Oct. 8

BARCELONA, Spain — Catalonia’s silent supporters of Spanish unity found their voice on Sunday, thronging into the center of Barcelona as part of a huge rally that reverberated with chants in support of a united Spanish state and against agitators for independence.

They demonstrated solidarity with the vilified national police and proudly waved a red-and-yellow national flag that for decades had carried the stigma of a taboo nationalism.

“Catalonia is not all for independence,” said José Manuel Alaminos, a 64-year-old lawyer. He said that Carles Puigdemont, the regional president who has led the independence movement, “is supposed to represent all of us.” [....]

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Yes, my concern - a few clips of obligatory "fascist police brutality" with a few thousand people at an unofficial referendum, and they'll parlay that into a "mandate" . I don't particularly care either way re: independence. I do care about disinfo breaking up Europe.

by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/10/2017 - 11:36am

Good to have your input on it. Never been there. Do think that famous homeboy Avida Dollars had a tendency to tolerate fascism only because he loved both capitalism and symbolic ritual so much. And always wondered whether that was partly cultural or totally idiosyncratic.

Apart from that, the tribalism of the whole situation bums me out.

by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2017 - 4:04pm

Kasperov's contention that one desired effect is to bum people out, to wear them down, to make them lose interest.... I think we're winning, but the underlyinh situation still tense

by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/10/2017 - 11:03pm

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