But what's most interesting when you read the transcript is that Trump is clearly concerned that he is not doing well--and he blames his problems on the GOP establishment for reigning in him. Indeed, he is hinting that he may soon go full Trumpy on us...

TIME: Going back to the polls, some showed you down six, seven, eight points nationally and in swing states by a similar margin. You won the primary, but the general election is obviously a very different electorate. What do you have to do differently?

Trump: Well, I’m running it differently than I did the primaries. I am listening to so-called experts to ease up the rhetoric, and so far, I’m liking the way I ran in the primaries better. I got more votes than anybody in the history of the primaries, I got 14 million votes and won most of the states. But I’m now listening to people that are telling me to be easier, to be nicer, be softer. That’s OK, and I’m doing that. Personally, I don’t know if that’s what the country wants. When we’re having heads chopped off in the Middle East, when things are happening that have never happened before in terms of the atrocities, in terms of giving $400 million in cash and all other things, I think maybe they want tougher rhetoric. They would like me to be a little bit different than I was in the primaries. And in the primaries, I broke the all-time record for votes.

TIME: Given that you had success with that attacking style and you enjoy it more, why did you decide to make the switch?

Trump: I listen to people, despite what people say. I’m not sure if I agree with them. I’ll let you know in a couple of weeks.