MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Two tax lawyers break down the president’s sale of two condos to his son.
By David Herzig & Bridget Crawford @ WashingtonPost.com, Aug. 4
President Trump clearly doesn’t want to release his income tax returns to the public. Members of the public and commentators have progressed through stages of outrage, speculation and acceptance that they’ll never see the goods, while others have made attempts to pry the documents free [....] But Trump’s most pressing tax problem may come from somewhere else entirely: a pre-election transfer of property to a company controlled by his son that could run afoul of the IRS.
According to a recent story by ProPublica and the Real Deal, in April 2016, a limited liability company managed by Trump sold two condominium apartments to a limited liability company managed by Eric Trump [....]
Comments
The authors presume an LLC does not provide a corporate veil. I am not sure this is always true and I suspect other tax attorneys might differ. And that one might be able to argue that successfully with the IRS. Seems a very special case, because the authors are also talking about IRS wanting a regular record of gifts in family before death in order to tally estate tax after death. I know a little about this kind of thing and I'm not sure a transfer between LLC corporations would apply to that. (Instead, something might happen at death like inheritance of the entire corporation if there are no other shareholders, and what "gifts" the corporation received would be inherit in its profit or loss statements and taxed at that time, against the corporate entity and not the persons Donald and his son Eric.)
LLC law is not settled that well in general. And the IRS often does have a lot power to decide what it wants if the law is unclear and you're not willing to spend a lot of money and time to fight it.
In any case, it's real bad optics. It's pretty clear they were trying to get away with something.
by artappraiser on Fri, 08/04/2017 - 9:49pm
Investments by a father into a son's llc or sro are often looked at as gifts, not innvestments. Basic IRS rules.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 08/04/2017 - 11:50pm
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No quibble with what you say because you used this qualifier.
My takeaway is that this kind of tactic would be like standard tax attorney manipulation with a family like this, especially in this business. How this whole "I have an excellent tax attorney" thing works. They finagle everything accounting wise in myriad ways similar to this, and then wait and see if the IRS even looks or audits. First and foremost they think: chances are no one will check or audit, which is quite true unless you're not paying anything anywhere. Second, the decision about whether to defend something challenged, or lay down and say "uncle" and pay the tax and the fine, is simply put off until it is. Because then is the best time to decide whether further attorney's fees are worth the time and effort to challenge back. With the IRS, it often isn't.
This is why he doesn't want his tax returns seen. But it's not like what's going on here is not standard practice for (wealthy) clients of tax lawyers. "Criminal" these two say? Methinks they doth protest too much, they either know that never happens or they are not very good at what they do. Criminal is what the IRS wants the public to think, but they negotiate all these things, they use the "criminal" threat to extort a high payment if they think they can get one when they challenge a filing. This is what tax attorneys do for a living, take care of it and then tell you what you have to pay. Or challenge it for decades if their time would be worth it. (Often when a celeb complains all his money is gone, was mis-managed, is threatened with doing time for non-payment of taxes, they mean they didn't get this kind of advice, didn't have a good tax lawyer doing the "financial planning.")
by artappraiser on Sat, 08/05/2017 - 3:31pm