MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE by Michael Wolraich Order today at Barnes & Noble / Amazon / Books-A-Million / Bookshop |
Probing Link to Bin Laden, U.S. Tells Pakistan to Name Agents
By Helene Cooper and Ismail Khan, New York Times, May 6, 2011WASHINGTON — Pakistani officials say the Obama administration has demanded the identities of some of their top intelligence operatives as the United States tries to determine whether any of them had contact with Osama bin Laden or his agents in the years before the raid that led to his death early Monday morning in Pakistan.
The officials provided new details of a tense discussion between Pakistani officials and an American envoy who traveled to Pakistan on Monday....
Note: Ismail Khan, now writing for the Times, is a Pakistani journalist with lengthy up close and personal experience covering Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, starting several years before 9/11.
Our Strange Dance with Pakistan
By Elizabeth Rubin, New York Review of Books Blog, May 6, 2011
....We give billions in aid to Pakistan’s military and civilian government. Yet Pakistan is harboring our enemies and even the enemies, one could argue, of its own healthy survival. Portions of our money are being funneled into the variety of insurgent networks whose fighters are killing American soldiers, Afghan soldiers, American civilians, Afghan civilians, European civilians, Pakistani civilians—mothers, fathers, children on multiple continents. Why, asks a US army major, did all his friends die in Afghanistan’s Helmand Province when the real problem is on the other side of the border? Why, asks a twelve-year-old Afghan girl in Kandahar whose family has been wiped out by US air strikes, are you bombing us? How has this come to pass?
In 2006, I traveled through Baluchistan and the North West Frontier Province of Pakistan, meeting with many Taliban fighters. I described it at the time as a kind of Taliban spa that offered them rest and rehab between battles in Afghanistan to which they would be returning. But it was more than that....
Pakistani Military between Rock and Hard Place
By Juan Cole, Informed Comment, May 5, 2011One of the reasons for which Pakistan’s military is so incensed about the unannounced US raid into Pakistan territory is that they are afraid the operation might form a precedent that could be exploited by India. Indeed, Pakistani generals thought that the SEALs were an Indian special ops team that had inserted itself at Abbottabad. The military has warned India against undertaking any such adventures.
Indian chief of staff VK Singh provoked a small crisis when he maintained that India had the capability to go in after Lashkar-e Tayyiba figures.
India is spoiling to kill or capture the leadership in Pakistani Punjab of the Lashkar-e Tayyiba or Righteous Army, the terrorist group that was behind the destruction at Mumbai in late 2008. A raid like the American one might be a way for New Delhi to bring the LeT leadership to justice.
There’s more:....
Commentary: Pakistan: Cutting to the quick
By Arnaud De Borchgrave, UPI Editor at Large, May 6, 2011
....Paranoia about India ever since Pakistanis lost half their country -- East Pakistan -- to an Indian invasion in 1971, explains a proliferation of terrorist groups, most of them under the control of ISI, that were created to conduct "asymmetric" attacks on Indian troops in Kashmir.
Bigger targets were also in the terrorist repertory. The attack against the Indian Parliament Dec. 13, 2001, was signed Lashkar-e-Toiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed. The 2008 attack on the Taj Mahal Palace in Mumbai that killed 101 was also the work of LeT, under the direction of a super-secret cell of ISI, known as Section "S."
Putting the terrorist genie back in the bottle proved mission impossible. Legal terrorist groups nurtured by ISI were disbanded only to move their shingles to another part of town under a different name.
Dr. A.Q. Khan is Pakistan's no. 1 national hero, none other than a nuclear engineer who stole secrets in The Netherlands to facilitate "The Bomb," a step or two behind India's nascent nuclear arsenal. He also sold nuclear weapons wherewithal to America's enemies -- North Korea, Iran and Libya.....
Newly released docs show over a decade of U.S. frustration with Pakistan over bin Laden
By Josh Rogin, The Cable @ Foreignpolicy.com, May 6, 2011U.S. officials had been frustrated by Pakistan's refusal to cooperate in the mission to apprehend Osama Bin Laden for over 10 years, according to government documents released Thursday by the National Security Archive.
"As the discovery of Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad, Pakistan, raises fresh questions about U.S.-Pakistan relations, newly released documents show that as early as 1998 U.S. officials concluded the Government of Pakistan ‘is not disposed to be especially helpful on the matter of terrorist Usama bin Ladin,'" stated the release on the website of the National Security Archives, which is housed at the George Washington University.
"According to previously secret U.S. documents, Pakistani officials repeatedly refused to act on the Bin Laden problem, despite mounting pressure from American authorities. Instead, in the words of a U.S. Embassy cable, Pakistani sources ‘all took the line that the issue of bin Ladin is a problem the U.S. has with the Taliban, not with Pakistan.'"
The archives posted six new documents obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request, as part of its Osama bin Laden File.....
Pakistan and al-Qaeda’s Future
By Ahmed Rashid, New York Review of Books Blog, May 3, 2011
....The repercussions for nuclear-armed Pakistan and its relations with the US and the rest of the world are immense....
Understanding these longstanding contradictions within Pakistan’s armed forces and the security services is an enormous challenge for both Pakistan and the West. But clearly answers are now needed, and paradoxically, bin Laden’s demise, though a victory for the fight against extremism in Pakistan—one that Pakistani leaders have welcomed—has made the problem more urgent than ever. There have been demonstrations in several cities condemning the government for allowing the American incursions.
The crisis is far worse for Pakistan than a previous national security embarrassment, when the world discovered that Pakistani scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan had been selling nuclear weapons technology to Iran, North Korea and Libya. At that time, the Bush administration chose to cover it up because Pakistan’s cooperation in the war on terrorism was deemed to be of paramount importance. However unlike A.Q. Khan, bin Laden and his followers....
Pakistan Loses the Upper Hand
By Robert Haddick, Small Wars Journal @ Foreignpolicy.com,
With bin Laden dead, Islamabad's leverage over Washington may also be gone.
Bin Laden's death will change Washington -- and Pakistan won't like it.....
US shouldn’t have bypassed Pakistan
Daily Times (Pakistan,) May 7, 2011
* Prime minister says violation of sovereignty is a matter of concern for Pakistan
* US president has acknowledged Pakistan’s contribution in war against terrorism despite many ups and downs in relations
* French leadership’s misunderstandings have been removed
* It will take some time for Pak-US relations to return to normalcy
ONBOARD PM’S SPECIAL AIRCRAFT: Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani said on Friday that keeping in view the longstanding relations, the United States should not have violated Pakistan’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.....
EDITORIAL: Bridge the gap
Daily Times (Pakistan,) May 7, 2011
In a belated effort to present the position of Pakistan, which was not done immediately after the successful US operation to take out Osama Bin Laden in Abbottabad, Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir briefed the media in Foreign Office and highlighted the legal complications and issues of sovereignty involved in this kind of unilateral incursion. On the other hand, addressing a corps commanders’ conference at GHQ, General Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani has issued directives to hold a broad-based probe into how Osama Bin Laden managed to evade detection by Pakistan’s intelligence agencies. The second part of the investigations ordered concerns how the US military managed to carry out such an audacious attack, without the knowledge of their Pakistani counterparts. Harsh and embarrassing questions at home and abroad have finally woken up the civil and military officialdom into formulating a fiercely defensive response over this issue....
Comments
by artappraiser on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 4:02am
by artappraiser on Sat, 05/14/2011 - 3:16pm
Great round up, artappraiser.
I remember reading the Elizabeth Rubin piece in 2006. It is striking how the dynamic she described is unchanged by the continuing conflict. Hopefully the growing criticism of Pakistan will lead to a change on both of our parts.
by moat on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 8:02pm
Thanks. It 's actually not my doing that the roundup is good, it was just that a whole bunch of good writers decided to publish on topic at the same time. I just kept coming across them with every click.
by artappraiser on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 3:46pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 3:57pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 5:55pm
In regards to that support network in Pakistan, I am keen to learn about the Al Qaeda side to that. If there was no Pakistani support for the setup, that suggests another network with considerable resources was involved. Or maybe some level of Pakistani support was involved but they were hoodwinked into thinking they were protecting somebody else. The complete range of alternatives from total complicity to extraordinary stupidity seems plausible when so many agents are involved working for/against one another.
by moat on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 6:36pm
I would think there is some clarification in the data haul from Abbottabad-past al Qaeda communications. However that doesn't mean anything for us average Jills & Joes as far as figuring it all out, because it's quite possible that our government might publicize some things that aren't true from there on purpose.
I think that situation is nothing new under the sun, sorta like it was for an average guy trying to figure out what was going on with the Cold War, CIA/KGB-wise? Where it takes a couple decades and some good historians to sort it out for the whole story to come out? In the meantime, this kind of thing we really are stuck with "do you trust the prez or not?" I.E., think Kennedy/Cuba, etc. Still all is not wasted, I think you learn all kinds of things trying to figure it out.
by artappraiser on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 10:05pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 05/09/2011 - 11:54am
It must have been the Panetta charm offensive what won 'em over. I wondered if his big mouth was going to cause problems. You figure, legislators are one thing - but he's operationally face-to-face.
I'm not sure this necessarily has any implication on what they knew in advance, though. There have been some BRUTAL statements from some very high level members of Obama's team. This could just be a bit of an escalation from their side while trying not to blow the whole relationship out of the water. How do we differentiate between the tit-for-tats?
by kgb999 on Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:59pm
How do we differentiate between the tit-for-tats?
All one can do is follow the stories, mho. (Is why I like keeping things on something as complicated as Pakistan on one thread, at least for a while.) Like I said to moat above, it sort of reminds me of the Cold War, where we won't get the whole story for quite some time.
by artappraiser on Mon, 05/09/2011 - 3:28pm
AFP's coverage of the Prime Minister's speech on Dawn's website.
Odd that they didn't write up an article on it themselves instead of using a foreign wire.
And interesting that they have this other wire story as a "headline story" right now:
US has non-Pakistan supply routes for Afghan war, Reuters, May 9, 2011
by artappraiser on Mon, 05/09/2011 - 3:46pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 05/09/2011 - 5:40pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 05/09/2011 - 3:27pm
From Sorrow and Joy: Elie Wiesel, Fatima Bhutto, Bernard-Henri Lévy, and Andrew Sullivan reflect on the end of Osama Bin Laden.
by artappraiser on Mon, 05/09/2011 - 3:37pm
Highly recommended, though it might make you go "aaargh!" at many points. If you read only one current piece on Pakistan, it should be this; it explains a lot:
The Double Game: The unintended consequences of American funding in Pakistan.
by Lawrence Wright, The New Yorker, May 16, 2011
A taste, my bold:
by artappraiser on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 9:45pm
The Osama raid plan included contingency for the possibility of Pakistani resistance, and for the possibility of taking him alive, belying the popular accusations that it was okayed all powers that be in Pakistan and that it was an ordered assassination:
by artappraiser on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 10:00pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 05/14/2011 - 2:50pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 05/14/2011 - 2:52pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 05/14/2011 - 2:56pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 05/14/2011 - 3:04pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 05/14/2011 - 3:07pm
Report on the meeting of ISI director with joint Parliament, from leakers
Here's a report on the massive security preparations for the meeting:
Also see:
by artappraiser on Sat, 05/14/2011 - 3:35pm
My bold highlighting:
Also see:
by artappraiser on Sat, 05/14/2011 - 10:01pm
Cross-links:
WikiLeaks: Pakistan Asked for More, Not Fewer Drones
http://dagblog.com/link/wikileaks-pakistan-asked-more-not-fewer-drones-1...
What Pakistan Knows by Doctor Cleveland
http://dagblog.com/politics/what-pakistan-knows-10341
by artappraiser on Fri, 05/20/2011 - 2:41pm
Dawn Presents Wikileaks' Pakistan Papers @
http://www.dawn.com/pakistan-papers
ARTICLES so far:
Cables reveal role of US troops in Pakistan
(US special operations forces were deployed with Pakistani troops on joint operations on Pakistani territory by September 2009: cables.)Nawaz Sharif feared arrest after deportation in ’07
Shahbaz was willing to have CJ removed after ‘face-saving’ restoration
US criticised President’s showdown with Sharifs
Army chief wanted more drone support
Government official urged follow-up drone strikes
Putting together The Pakistan Papers
FEATURES:
Our causes leak on Pakistan
The Establishment’s true lies
PAKISTAN CABLES:
by artappraiser on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 6:47pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 7:18pm
Ramadan? In Pakistan that's just another reason for jihad:
1)
Death toll rises to 51 in Khyber mosque suicide attack
AFP, August 20, 2011
Mosque Bomb Blast Toll Hits 51: Horrifying Photos
International Business Times, August 20, 2011
Taliban claims responsibility for Pak mosque bombing
PTI, August 20, 2011
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Calls for military action in Karachi as violence continues
Reuters, August 20, 2011
Pakistan's government is facing increased pressure from business groups to deploy the army in the commercial hub of Karachi after at least 65 people were killed in a surge of gang and political violence over the past three days....
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Indian army reports deadly gunbattle in Kashmir
Associated Press, August 20, 2011
Indian troops in Kashmir fought a deadly gunbattle with suspected rebels crossing the military Line of Control from Pakistani-controlled territory Saturday, the army said. One soldier and 11 suspected rebels were killed....
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4)
Kabul Attack on British Compound Linked to Pakistan, Police Chief Says
ABC News, August 19, 2011
Kabul's police chief claimed today the brazen dawn terror attack on a British compound in the Afghan capital that killed eight was planned and directed by senior Taliban members hiding out in Pakistan.....
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My commentary: Still wondering when the solution part is coming from that original "two-state solution."
by artappraiser on Sat, 08/20/2011 - 8:09am
Before 9/11, Pakistan was on the US's oh-shit list of countries. Countries where doing business was restricted so as to punish them for their bad habits that didn't pass muster with what the US expected. However, after the event, Bu$h had no problem with putting Pakistan on the very top of the most-favored-nation list. The thing is, Pakistan didn't do or change anything for the action. So to find out now they have been burning the candle at both ends since 9/11 should come as no surprise ... it's what they do best ... which is why they were on the oh-shit list of countries in the first place.
by Beetlejuice on Sat, 08/20/2011 - 10:25am