MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Immigration skeptics often act as if there’s some fixed pool of jobs that we compete for. But it’s obvious that in a world without immigrant housecleaners, we wouldn’t have an equal number of much-higher-paid native-born maids. What we’d have is less housecleaning being done on a market basis and more being done as unpaid work at home. For many middle-class families that would be pure waste. Time spent cleaning the toilet that could be spent on higher-value labor, on leisure, or on quality time with friends and family.
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Ah...the return to Elizabethan England. Where the elites and landed gentry all had maids and butlers and nannies.
Somebody has been watching FAR to much Downton Abby and Upstairs Downstairs.
by cmaukonen on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 8:56pm
I suspect he grew up that way (in Manhattan, father a screenwriter & novelist, went to the elite private Dalton school,) doesn't need to get it from historical teevee. Plenty of people do still live like "Upstairs/Downstairs" in Manhattan, as they have for a very long time, nothing recent about it. Not saying it's right for the whole country, nor that Yglesias doesn't have myopia on this because of his upbringing, but it is true that servicing the wealthy of Manhattan does happen to provide a lot of business for the rest of New York. And it's not just maids but people like contractors tearing apartments and townhouses apart and rebuilding them with the latest thing this week like a thermo enviro heating system or whatever, followed by craftsman floors, master plaster work, the latest in invisible technology from the screening room to the refrigerator, all serviced by umpteen specialist workers charging big bucks (they have to pay those double-parking tickets on the van somehow, which do contribute to the city's coffers.) There are more than a few plumbers living in Staten Island McMansions with swimming pools and a big boat in the nearby dock because of working for wealthy Manhattanites.
by artappraiser on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 9:24pm
Slightly but not very OT, this brings up a major point. That there is a very large disconnect between these people and a large par of the country in their personal history as well as their incomes.
I think this will have and even more profound effect than the income gap alone.
by cmaukonen on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 9:35pm
Along the same trains of thought:
Where Was the Left's "Permission Structure" Wrecking Ball? | The Moral Sciences Club | Big Think »
Why Are American Kids So Spoiled? : The New Yorker:
by EmmaZahn on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 10:24pm
Thanks for those Emma. Spot on !
by cmaukonen on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 11:24pm
I saw that Yglesias piece, but it struck me more that his premise relied on endless growth than that he was singing, Everybody Ought to Have a Maid.
by Donal on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 9:03pm
I saw and skipped it thinking here is just another of his make whites a minority blogs. I still read his finance/money blogs but skip more and more of the other stuff.
by EmmaZahn on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 10:14pm
Why not just open the border, and we tax these new low wage earners enough to cover expenses, and we cut our work week to 20 hours a week?
With this new
slaveworker class, we can all retire and live a life of leisure.What do you think?
Say we allow 20 - 40 more immigrant workers, per existing American worker, would that be enough?
We wouldn't be taking advantage of them in a bad way either.
They'd be happy, because it pays better than back in their home country and us American workers would be happy too.
A win/win
More time, to do the things we like to do.
Why should the rich get all the fun.
BTW; I saw a movie once; I wonder can we train APES?
by Resistance on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 10:25pm
by Anonymous pp (not verified) on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 12:44am
Imagine the prosperity then; if that were to occur?
There would be so much competition for available jobs.
Prices would come down.
Who says the American worker can't compete in a world economy?
Corporate controlled America: "They sure as hell, can when they're forced to, with a little prodding, and an influx of desperate workers more profits can be had."
With Citizens United and now the neutered 1070; we have the best SCOTUS, money can buy..... for Corporate America.
Papers please? .....screw that; how cheap will you work..... American corporations need you to break the backs of American workers.
Screw America; the democratic party needs you.
by Resistance on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 1:31am
I'm hesitant to defend Yglesias here, but what the heck. Not many maids in the U.S. resemble the house servants featured in Downton Abbey. Instead, they service multiple homes and rarely spend more than a couple hours a week at each place.
I hire a maid. She comes once every three or four weeks and cleans my one-bedroom apartment for $80. I don't have a lot money, but I hate housecleaning, and before I used a maid, I would procrastinate cleaning until my place was a pigsty. A maid also avoids what would have been inevitable domestic strife with my partner. So for me, it's well worth the cost.
OK, so that's great for my partner and me. What about the maid? She was a doctor in Russia but was desperate to come to the U.S. for the sake of her son. For a long time, she didn't have papers and worked under the table cleaning houses. She's legal now but still cleans. Her teenage son helps out. I expect that he will go to college and become some sort of professional.
My partner, incidentally, is also a Russian immigrant. Her parents were both educated professionals in the Soviet Union--an engineer and a physicist. They immigrated here in the early 1990s. Her mother found work as a nanny and babysitter. Her father never found work. But they came to the U.S. for the sake of their two daughters. My partner is a doctor, finishing up her training. Her sister is a software engineer.
Should maids be paid more? Yes they should, as should every low-wage earner in the country, including grocery clerks, waiters, dishwaters, gas station attendants, and (ahem) writers. But caricaturing Yglesias as some modern-day nobleman who secretly dreams of a new servile class is unfair. Paying someone to clean your house is not so different from paying someone to bag your groceries or deliver your pizza. And the people who clean houses are not bound by social constraints to generations of servitude. Many of them are just trying to earn a living so their kids can do something else.
by Michael Wolraich on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 11:05am
So, like Charlie Sheen, you really aren't paying her for the cleaning. You're paying her to go away when she's done.
by Donal on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 11:15am