MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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"He was on serious medications to deal with his issues."
There is no actual medication for "Asperger's syndrome," which is what his brother said he had - because "Asperger's" isn't a real thing. "Asperger's" is allegedly a lack of normal social awareness and behavior - a catch-all just like bipolar disorder, ADD and all the other made up "mental disorders" that psychiatrists have pushed in order to generate an income based on selling pharmaceutical drugs.
There has been no mention in Lanza's case at all of schizophrenia or any real disorder that can cause violence. People unfortunate enough to be labeled with "Asperger's" usually get put on anti-anxiety drugs - which have withdrawal effects that could damn well have caused Lanza to have a psychotic break powerful enough to do what he did. Combine all that with guns and it's no surprise that this keeps happening again and again and again.
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Ok, Orion, I just gotta say, can't just let your commentary on this link just sit here without commenting on it---
I think you are seriously projecting again, almost propagandizing for your special interest. You seem to be reading into this story what you wish to see. Your tendency to do this almost kind of reminds me of a neo-con building the case for war with Saddam (many of them really did believe doing so would solve a lot of the Mideast's problems, ya know.)
There is nothing here in this Daily News story that says Lanza Had Med-Induced Psychotic Break, nothing. It simply says he had a psychotic break. (And that itself is just hearsay, but you're not even happy with that without altering it to imply it was caused by meds.)
The story itself implies his mother pushing him to get out of the house and to get help caused a psychotic break, that he couldn't handle that. It is not implied that drugs caused a psychotic break, that is not in this article. Back to that in a minute.
First, this kind of reaction has been reported by others as happening with Lanza in the past. Just hearsay, again, but at least it's available in quantity (as opposed to evidence of drugs or drug withdrawal, which is not.)
Like for example, here in a The Telegraph article, where it also says his brother said he had a personality disorder as well as being on the autism spectrum:
Here's more on Adam not talking to his brother nor to his father for the past two years.
Do you really trust his brother to know exactly what his brother's problems and diagnoses and meds were in the last two years? I don't. Why do you trust the diagnosis of autism here? Based on what? How do you know he wasn't misdiagnosed and developing schizophrenia? How do you know he wasn't misdiagnosed all along with Aspberger's (you yourself have posted on how questionable a diagnosis it is,) when he really might have had a severe personality disorder with increasingly violent outbursts? You don't know. We don't know what was wrong with him.
Ok, let's get back to the meds in the Daily News story. The whole article is based on an interview with one Lanza family friend who was telling the reporter what the police asked her when they interviewed her. He/she said “They told me they think he had a psychotic break and were asking if Nancy mentioned anything (to me) about Adam not taking his medications,” the friend told The News AND The friend couldn’t provide the police with any new information.
So the police were asking if he/she knew anything about any meds he was taking or not taking and this friend said he/she knew nothing about him taking meds or not taking meds! That is all! The focus of the story, the one that the reporter is playing up, is that police are following the idea of a psychotic break. Not a "med-induced" psychotic break. A psychotic break, like the kind when you're mentally ill like Norman Bates at the Bates Motel and your mom's pushing and hammering on you and you don't want her to be doing that. That's what the Daily News is getting at here, trying to play up.
I humbly suggest you should also think about how the police are probably not on your side here, that they probably think that a mentally ill person taking meds is a good thing, and a mentally ill person not taking his meds is a bad thing. If they think or know that he was taking meds at all. And that is why they were asking this family friend--it's probably more like they are looking for someone to say this|: oh yeah Nancy mentioned to me two months ago that the psychiatrist wanted Adam to try taking XXX, but she couldn't convince him to do it or anything else.
Next point. Do the police think or know that he was on meds?
The real truth: We simply do not know:
So until you hear it from Danbury State's Attorney Stephen Sedensky III, and you're going to have to wait quite a few months to hear from him, all we really have on this is hearsay.
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/06/2013 - 5:11am
There is a long investigative piece in this week's New Yorker that I think you will enjoy a great deal as a challenge to many of your thoughts on this issue. It's tying up the real story behind the 2010 University of Alabama in Huntsville shooting (wikipedia entry on it here.):
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/06/2013 - 6:29am
More thoughts from Patrick Radden Keefe:
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/15/2013 - 1:08am
That's very interesting. It may be that, psychologically, alot of people under prepare for danger in this world because they are in denial of the possibility of it coming their way.
by Orion on Fri, 02/15/2013 - 3:10am
That is a really interesting analogy and perhaps I am. The people in my support group tend to be fairly well functioning individuals - all of us had suicidal ideation and minor violent episodes - but we do things like have jobs, write for serious websites, participate in a support group, etc.
I am going based on what we know about Lanza. Asperger's syndrome may not actually be a real illness - these disorders get handed out like gospel to anyone who has trouble in their adolescent years.
Your analogy is a good one in that this is similar to Islamic terrorism - it's a ridiculous problem that has existed for several years that little action has been taken on.
by Orion on Wed, 02/06/2013 - 7:25am