MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE by Michael Wolraich Order today at Barnes & Noble / Amazon / Books-A-Million / Bookshop |
By David Jackson, USA Today, Sept. 4, 2013
Vladimir Putin says his differences with President Obama aren't personal, or permanent.
"President Obama hasn't been elected by the American people in order to be pleasant to Russia," Putin told the Associated Press. "And your humble servant hasn't been elected by the people of Russia to be pleasant to someone either."
He added: "We work, we argue about some issues. We are human. Sometimes one of us gets vexed. But I would like to repeat once again that global mutual interests form a good basis for finding a joint solution to our problems."
That could include Syria, Putin said in the interview with AP and Russia's state Channel 1 [....]
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by artappraiser on Wed, 09/04/2013 - 8:29am
My bold:
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/04/2013 - 1:50pm
The same suggestive stuff on Iran was in the NYTimes yesterday, though their article also has stronger countering analysis:
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/04/2013 - 2:08pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/04/2013 - 11:05pm
Pretty amazing news:
Hat tip for the above:
and followed up with this tweet translation indicating it's all true that this discussion is truly happening in Iran (MP=Member of Parliament):
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/04/2013 - 11:20pm
And looks like it may be a big bingo win for the analysts who pointed to Jeffrey Feltman's visit to Iran last week:
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/04/2013 - 11:32pm
Putin's talking "norms" too:
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/04/2013 - 5:59pm
Meanwhile, a very public plea for help from Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Turkey; my bold:
To be clear on my bold = They are not asking for more refugee aid or any kind of humanitarian solutions; they want the international community to push to end the crisis.
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/04/2013 - 11:47pm
Intriguing hints of a dawning international realization that a solution to the crisis has to be political and diplomatic, not military. Thanks for collating these links, appraiser. I had to smile as I read Vick's suggestion in Time:
"If, as a crucial ally of Assad, Tehran can help coax the Syrian dictator to amend his behavior — perhaps by a dramatic gesture such as surrendering its stockpiles of WMDs to a third party, like Russia — the implications would be immense. Not only would chemical and biological weapons exit the Syrian theater, where combatants include Islamist extremists, but the West would also have an encouraging answer to the question of whether the Iranians, represented by a newly elected leadership, can negotiate in good faith on the question of controlling weapons of mass destruction."
Novel idea. Might work.
by acanuck on Thu, 09/05/2013 - 3:11am
As long as by "the West", you don't mean the US, 'cause even if the Iranian leadership beat their swords into plowshares and fed 5,000 with five loaves and two fish, we still wouldn't trust them.
by Verified Atheist on Thu, 09/05/2013 - 7:33am
Its is a novel idea, a great idea. Here's another one.
Change we can believe in.
Wanna bet we get the same old bombs?
by ocean-kat on Thu, 09/05/2013 - 3:55pm
If I had to bet, yes, I'd bet on bombs and missiles falling. I'm a bit encouraged by the stone wall of resistance Obama is getting -- from U.S.-allied countries -- at the G20. Also the UN secretary-general warning that an attack (with congressional approval or not) would be illegal, and the pope saying it would be immoral.
I clearly recall candidate Obama pledging that he would end, not only the U.S.'s current wars, but "the mindset that gets us into wars." Gutsy declaration, never implemented. He's now firmly locked in Washington's military-driven bubble. The Nobel committee should have waited a term or two.
by acanuck on Thu, 09/05/2013 - 5:00pm
Note that the White House is stressing that, despite being in Russia at a summit alrready dominated by the Syria crisis, Obama still plans no one-on-one talks with Putin, who is the key player in any diplomatic solution. Why? Because he said last month he'd snub Putin to punish him over asylum for Snowden. Petty schoolyard bullshit, while the world economy teeters. Rigid and not at all statesman-like.
by acanuck on Thu, 09/05/2013 - 7:41pm
Yeah, there's that. This was the guy who was elected in part because he was supposedly a great mediator and negotiator. The whole thing about his time as president of the Harvard Law Review was his ability to bring disparate groups together. For years now people, and even I, have been excusing him by saying even a great mediator couldn't work with the house republicans. But it doesn't seem like he can work with anybody.
by ocean-kat on Thu, 09/05/2013 - 11:31pm
Thanks back, glad to see someone else who sees in the news what I see.
BTW, I don't for a minute believe some of the media spin that's still suggests Obama/Kerry are thinking "fuck whatever the U.N. does." That he chose the Congressional option says just the opposite and furthermore, lines up with most analysis of his presidency as the presidency that can never make up its mind. People read too much into public bluster.
Of course, all the figures involved are going to bluster and spin, they need to start from an advocacy position, that's the way all this works. Would people rather they just do actual war rather than have wars of words? There's gonna be rough language and lots of threats, that's the way this thing works. Matter of fact, this is just intuition, and may be totally wrong, but I am starting to think all the military stuff was/is bluster meant to scare the bejeesus out of everybody to get something to start happening. Obama never actually said what he intends to do on it. He's got "plans," just like Putin. Plans are plans. Sending ships are sending ships (which often works to scare people, especially people on the internet, works better on them than it does on leaders.) All threat, no actions yet. The only thing so far that went counter to my intuitions on this front is McCain and Graham getting on board after an hour with Obama at the White House.
by artappraiser on Thu, 09/05/2013 - 5:15pm
P.S. There's a chronology I am starting to see in my reading, where the U.S. was a bit nasty to the U.N. right after. They were sure of their intel and the U.N. getting in there, with the security problems, was just delaying things and causing security problems for the U.N. And they were figuring a lot of the evidence was covered up already, that was already seen in the intel (the French especially had that.) But once the UK vote upended everything, Obama got the light bulb that he's going to have to delay and go Congressional. And the delay opened up a whole new world of options(or problems, depending upon your p.o.v., say a strong hawk,) including involving the G-20 meeting. And in that whole context, U.N. involvement is still important.
by artappraiser on Thu, 09/05/2013 - 5:23pm
Re: ships.
This is the way I see that: peacekeeping forces can only wish people were as ascared of them as they are of ships. If they could have that same effect, maybe there'd be some peace.
by artappraiser on Thu, 09/05/2013 - 5:41pm
Just a cross-link to the Happy Rosh Hashanah wishes from the Foreign Minister of Iran.
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/06/2013 - 1:03am
"A U-turn in Iranian diplomacy occurred today":
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/06/2013 - 1:57am