MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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In their mission to act like a gang of spoiled self centered overly weaponized hotheads the PBA police union in NYC has suggested NYC cops disinvite NYC Mayor de Blasio from their funerals. They don't like Mayor de Blasio's response to protestors. Funerals? Cops are not in the top 10 on dangerous jobs. Garbage collectors have twice the cop risk of dying on the job. Taxi drivers die on the job more often than cops. Maybe the Pentagon should give cab drivers MRAPS instead of cops.
Give MRAP vehicles to cab drivers?
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You should have made this a blog post rather than a news post because: your intro is an excellent argument that needs to be repeated over and over and over until it sinks into many more heads.
My father spent his government career backing up negotiations for the taxpayers of a large city against its unions, doing the research of what city workers were paid across the country. In private, he always strongly expressed the opinion basically, how should I say it, that: police and fireman are spoiled brats and take too much share of the pie leaving little for those other guys that he thought deserved more. He specifically focused on the arguments about supposed dangers, like you have, that they get so much better pensions and perks because of those.
But then, my dad was never one for the bullshit about "heroes", he hated every minute of being a draftee in the army in WWII and despises glorification of the military to a fault.
by artappraiser on Sun, 12/14/2014 - 4:45pm
Something else comes to mind in recalling things to tell my little story. The love affair between police unions and the Republican party is nothing new under the sun, has been going on a very long time.
by artappraiser on Sun, 12/14/2014 - 4:55pm
A longtime love affair?
You've got that right... All the way back to the days of Lincoln...
The largest private law enforcement organization at that time was Pinkerton. Municipal police, sheriffs and local constables wouldn't cross the Pinkerton security forces and in fact worked hand in hand with them.
It's been a long long "tough on crime" love affair.
~OGD~
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by oldenGoldenDecoy on Sun, 12/14/2014 - 5:42pm
Are cops in NYC still as corrupt as ever?
I note the 16th report of the NYC Commission to Combat Police Corruption listed 1 (one) case of bribery and (2) cases of abuse of authority. Google has no user reviews of the NYCCCPC. You, NYC residents out there, could be the first to review them!
It has been around 'keeping police honest' since 1995. Of course there was the Knapp Commission in the 70's in the days of Serpico ("the only honest cop in NYC").
When I lived in NYC late 70's I saw cops taking bribes, knew people who had to bribe uniformed cops in public in broad daylight to temporarily close a sidewalk to move heavy equipment, knew a guy who was relieved when his restaurant/bar was approached by a mob guy who said the mob would take care of the local cops if he paid the mob instead.
He was happy to do so, it seemed worthwhile to pay the mob to keep tax financed cops from shaking him down.
by NCD on Sun, 12/14/2014 - 6:25pm
To answer your question, here's an article from October on my lovely police force in da Bronx:
New York Police Lieutenant Faces Jail for Leaks in Ticket-Fixing Inquiry
In my experience, one-on-one, their attitude still reeks of entitlement that often goes along with corruption. Of course I am generalizing from separate instances.
Here's where I might sort of disagree with some. I don't see much brutality in the force anymore and I don't see much racism, either. The majority are actually well-trained pros on that front, most know how not to even give a whiff of that off, they learned their lesson with Louima etc. Mostly cool calculating cucumbers, not at all hotheads. I wouldn't describe any NYC cop I've seen as a hothead, as a matter of fact. Just the opposite, they are cold and unfeeling towards everyone. I haven't seen an example of kindness to someone in distress from a NYC cop since I moved here in 1983, not a one.
Rather, there's this sense of an attitude of entitlement to respect and rewards when they don't reciprocate it, they treat everyone with disdain. And often that segues into corruption, the olden NYC "getting one on," taking what you think is your due, etc. They terrorize with disdain, they don't care that your taxes are paying their salary. But I've got to say, many other NYC workers are like that too, have a sense of entitlement, far from the idea that they are public servants, they think of themselves as public overlords.
If I see any prejudice, I think it is toward immigrants, they treat people who are clearly still from a foreign culture the most roughly.
by artappraiser on Sun, 12/14/2014 - 7:07pm
Reasonalbe evaluation. "Those held accountable by no one, do not deserve the trust of anyone" Thomas Paine.
The ticket fixing thing might be the tip of a corruption iceberg.
by Anon ncd (not verified) on Sun, 12/14/2014 - 7:38pm
Does this apply to the Executive who knows there wont be accountability, because he knows his decisions wont come back to bite him. People cant punish him at the polls, because he knows he cant run again.
President: "What you did in the past was illegal; but I'll fix that."
by Resistance on Sun, 12/14/2014 - 8:15pm
No, Resistance, you appear to be parroting Fox News talking points again.
The President is held accountable by a Republican Congress which can impeach him or pass a law to undo his executive actions over his veto, and a Republican Supreme Court which can rule against him.
by anony ncd (not verified) on Sun, 12/14/2014 - 9:07pm
I'm not sure that the Black citizens would agree that they are selected for special treatment. Stop and Frisk and Broken Windows targeted minority communities.
by rmrd0000 on Sun, 12/14/2014 - 11:24pm
I used the word racist, and not any other kind of words like "minority community" for a reason.
I think the NYPD overall is much less racist than it was in the 8o's when it was all white Irish guys.
It's probably mostly a semantic difference we are getting into here, where I use the term racist much more literally than you do. But I think it's an important semantic difference.
For example, they don't much stop and frisk people with black skin who are among the shoppers on Upper Madison Avenue looking checking out Louboutins, Italian lingerie and snacking on $50 salami..Now I've read enough stories that would suggest that some of the sales clerks and taxi drivers in that hood are still racist. But I don't think the cops are. They don't ask Bill Cosby what he's doing standing in front of the door to his $20 million townhouse just off Madison. They probably all know he lives there. I know for a fact that they treat all the employees at the Cameroon consulate in the same nabe with almost too much respect, even though they have the darkest skin one could have. I think it's because they speak French, but who knows, maybe it's because they pay them off.
I am sticking to it: I think the NYPD has become less racist.
Yes, they target "minority communities," waht they do is they target "minority communities" that are high crime communities. This does not equal racism on their part. If they had a bunch of poor white trash skinheads living segregated in poor council flat neighborhoods like in England, I bet they would target all the kids that in that hood that looked like those skinheads. This is not racism
Did you ever think that when you use the term "minority community" as if it is something to be proud of, that it is giving a blessing to the idea of segregation? It strikes me that way. I'm a staunch believer in integration of all kinds.being good for mankind. So the pride of "minority communities" sort of sticks in my craw. Especially when the results of segregation into minority communities ends up in a bunch of people self-reinforcing generaional failure and high crime.
As I suggested on another thread, if there wasn't segregation of one race of poor people like in places like Ferguson, there'd be less targeting of people by skin color.. It's about segregation, when you segregate yourselves into one community, people are going to make generalizations.
Goes without saying that I don't think police brutality is a solution to the problem. It's self-defeating, actually. But always promoting minority communities as if they are something good, that I think is self-defeating too. Even when it's like, Russian Jews from the Soviet Union or Bengalis and not high crime. It's makes for very closed minds on the inside and people making generalizations from the outside, including police.
In mixed neighborhoods, brutal cops don't even know what skin color to target. They get all confused and like, pick on 76-year-old Hispanic men. Segregation, including self-segregation, promoting "minority communities" as if they are something good, that's at the heart of the problem here.
When there is law enforcement, with people being invested with great power over others, there is always going to be abuse. That's something that can't totally be erased. But this targeting of "minority communities," well if they were fewer of them in very bad shape, it would go away. They would then target "poor, crime ridden neighborhoods" no matter the color of the skin.
by artappraiser on Mon, 12/15/2014 - 7:22pm
We probably don't have large disagreement on this issue. The major difference is that if a minority person ventures into a high end community where the police cannot identify the minority person's vehicle, there can be problems. The police will ask why a minority is in such a nice vehicle in such an upper class neighborhood
Racism may not have decreased, but police have learned not to express overt racist behavior. We have gone from calling someone N****r to saying that the minority was going for an officer's gun or the minority made a reach towards his own waistband.
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 12/15/2014 - 9:38pm
The NYPD PBA mouthpiece was upset because de Blasio stated in public the conversation that parents of Black children have to have with their children. Children are taught how to avoid conflict with police. De Blasio's son has a large Afro which is as bad as wearing a hoodie.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/12/04/pba-president-police-officers-thr...
The PBA spokesman characterized the choke hold officer as a "model" officer despite a lawsuit that two men were strip searched in public by the choke hold officer. There was a $30K settlement of the lawsuit in January. Another lawsuit is pending against the officer.
If the bad apples are praised as model officers, there is little reason to trust the police.
by rmrd0000 on Sun, 12/14/2014 - 5:38pm
Do you support my idea to give the MRAPs to cab drivers instead of cops?
by NCD on Sun, 12/14/2014 - 6:28pm
I think I'd just leave them on the battlefield and then scrapped when they are no longer of use. The government could make a profit on the scrap metal.
by rmrd0000 on Sun, 12/14/2014 - 11:20pm
Slightly off topic but here is video of police browbeating the girlfriend of John Crawford, the man gunned down by police in a Walmart. The woman is threatened with jail if she doesn't admit the Crawford carried a gun into the store.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/14/john-crawford-girlfriend-...
by rmrd0000 on Sun, 12/14/2014 - 11:42pm
Slightly off topic
On first sight would you imagine this is a kid capable of killing many?
Imagine if you'd have seen a similar kid, swinging a gun around in a park? Or in a Walmart? Would you have grabbed your Taser first? Believing the gun in his hand wasn't real?
by Resistance on Mon, 12/15/2014 - 4:21am
Lanza didn't wave a gun in a park. Do you have something that relates to a guy with the homicide of someone with a BB gun sold by WalMart? Do you have something related to the brow-beating the dead man's girlfriend underwent?
I thought not.
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 12/15/2014 - 7:23am
I thought so
I wasn't responding to your browbeating video, as I said I too was slightly off topic
Some said the police in the Jodi Arias case, brow beat her for hours. From videos I've seen and the subsequent trial it appears she is a compulsive liar.
by Resistance on Mon, 12/15/2014 - 8:50am
Give MRAP vehicles to cab drivers?
Depends in what part of town they might be going into?
If its one that doesn't respect authority or the law? Or one that is prone to civil uprising?
(sarcasm)
In traffic, do you think people would yield the right of way to the driver of this vehicle?
by Resistance on Mon, 12/15/2014 - 4:15am
Resistance, you did not read the entire article from snopes, did you? You took a snippet that fit your opinion. The law you cited applies to personal aid to a police officer. It says nothing about use of personal property like a car by the police. If fact, snopes could not find a California case where the issue even came up.
Try again
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 12/15/2014 - 7:34am
Think rmrd
YET
It seems every law has a slippery slope that will be used in future events.
by Resistance on Mon, 12/15/2014 - 8:12am
Sad
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 12/15/2014 - 8:52am
It is; I suspect they are gearing up and having equipment distributed nearby doesn't hurt if Martial Law is invoked.
by Resistance on Mon, 12/15/2014 - 10:28am
Sorry to butt in. Message to the Management. I wrote a blog just now. It's in my "account" but can't seem to get it published. Thanks.
by Oxy Mora on Mon, 12/15/2014 - 10:45am