MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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With Votes in Hand, Republicans Are Now Opening the Floodgates For Everyone’s Pet Giveaways
By Kevin Drum @ MotherJones.com, Dec. 2
The swamp is back! After rounding up 51 votes, Senate Republicans are now busily writing a bill. The thing is already a Rube Goldberg monstrosity, it’s now time to break out the Christmas presents.
The senator from Alaska is getting a break for cruise ships—but only ones that stop in Alaska. The other senator from Alaska is getting something for Native Americans. The senators from Kansas and South Dakota are both getting breaks for agriculture interests. The senator from Pennsylvania got a special exemption from the new endowment tax that benefits only Hillsdale College, a conservative darling.¹ The senator from South Carolina is getting some money for opportunity zones. The chairman of the Finance Committee is [....]
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Analysis: More than 6,000 lobbyists have worked on taxes in 2017
Senate nixes provision boosting conservative college after uproar
by artappraiser on Sat, 12/02/2017 - 3:11am
Uhhh . . . Grandma?
Is there a tax break for throwing grandma off the cliff?
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~OGD~
by oldenGoldenDecoy on Sat, 12/02/2017 - 2:25pm
Democracy depends on an educated citizenry. If Trump supporters stick with the GOP after this vote, there is nothing anyone can say that will bring them back to reality. The only way to save the country now is to energize the Democratic base. We are no longer at a crossroads, we have fallen into the abyss.
by rmrd0000 on Sat, 12/02/2017 - 10:17am
Bernie Sanders campaign this week in the Midwest, to condemn this money grab by GOP plutocrats, seems to have had no deterrent effect on Congressional Republicans looting of the Treasury.
Republican "low road" lies, hate and fear politics seems the winner still with red state voters over a government with responsible fair and sustainable policies.
by NCD on Sat, 12/02/2017 - 1:40pm
Though I laud Sanders for taking on this nag role, and likewise Sen. Corker for his principled stance agin from a totally different mindset, I took away a different message from this: it reminded me of all the polls that say people usually approve of their own Congresspersons, just think we should throw out all those other bums.
I actually looked over the list of amendments. Apart from a few blatant conservative ploys, a lot of them, it seemed to me, were for lobbies that Dem representatives would be receptive to as well. Example: you got something against the Native American lobby in Alaska?
It's against their supposed principles of fiscal responsibility. This is truly where it's "all sides do it." Further, the conundrum has always struck me: they may have their own principles but they are not supposed to be serving their own principles, they're supposed to be serving constituencies that vote for them.
People tend to think special interest lobbies are evil until it is their special interest. Lobbying is there because our government is so huge and complex. Not enough bureaucrats to understand it all. It's folly to even think the average Congressperson can be knowledgeable enough to know all there is to know about how lawmaking will effect their constituents, even less so the average voter. And then it is often true that you get what you pay for in expertise; a volunteer lobbyist does usually have to spend their time working for living. Just no two ways about it, expertise costs time or money. And congresspersons will try to deliver/pander to important special interests that either turn over voting blocs or significant money or both.
by artappraiser on Sat, 12/02/2017 - 2:50pm
We are in an era of both sides do it and whataboutism. Those positions are nonsense. The Democratic Party would not have passed this tax bill. No Democratic Senator voted for this evil bill. We have to directly confront the evil that is the GOP. We can’t divert to attacks on the Democratic Party.
by rmrd0000 on Sat, 12/02/2017 - 3:08pm
My comment and the story are not at all about the bill. They are about the pork barrel amendments given to balking Senators in order to get them to sign on to the bill.
by artappraiser on Sat, 12/02/2017 - 3:50pm
In case you didn't notice, both the Clinton administration in 94, and the Obama administration in his first term, both raised taxes on upper incomes without one Republican vote, as the GOP claimed raising taxes would "kill jobs."
This GOP administration and the GWB administration cut taxes on the rich, creating huge deficits, in both cases with few or no Dem votes.
And in case you didn't notice Republicans like Ryan and Rubio are already saying the deficit problem, which they compounded hugely today, must force cuts to Social Security and Medicare, both programs the GOP has tried to get rid of for decades, see below from 60's, a plea by Reagan to end Social Security and block the Medicare Act of '65. And more recently, Dubya said the Social Security Trust Fund was "just IOU's in a drawer" and payroll tax money should be turned over to Wall Street control, fees and disbursement.
by NCD on Sat, 12/02/2017 - 3:33pm
I mention the Clinton tax plan all the time, I think it was genius and I still do, they studied closely what top rate would not be counter-productive to the budget and the economy and tax evasion attempts in myriad ways and came up with 39%. And it worked. It was carefully calibrated and by the way had nothing to do with the tax-and-spend Dems of the 60's nor Eisenhower's rates for that matter, which ended up getting us things like Proxmire's golden fleece awards and huge debts. It came out of the DLC, not the DNC. And Obamanomics followed the same principles.
And you saw few complain about it, and fewer than ever before trying to evade it.
Corporate taxation, which the current Congress was supposedly targeting here, is a totally different matter, and complex, but that's all bullshit on the currrent Congress' part so why even get into it.
THE POINT I'd like to make: this news story is not at all about their tax plan, it's about the pork barrel amendments given to those as incentive to sign on to a tax plan that they didn't like! AND THAT DOES GO FOR BOTH PARTIES, they both do it when writing big legislation. It's an inherent problem with the way sausage is made by our Congress and how lobbyists of all stripes are part of our system.
by artappraiser on Sat, 12/02/2017 - 3:46pm
P.S. you and rmrd are certainly entitled to rant on your favorite political hobby horses wherever you want, and I have no problem with that, either. I just don't cotton to being made a straw man. Leave me out of it.
And I think it's unfair to Drum as well, and The Hill piece that I posted; they are about the effect of pork barrel amendments and about lobbyists fine tuning big legislation to their benefit and away from intent.
The result of this happening actually may have made the bill less antithetical to Dem causes, don't you realize that? They started out wanting to make a very conservative economics bill, and I don't think that is what they are going to end up with.
Even they don't know, that's the point. The balkers mostly got something they wanted, that's all we know.
by artappraiser on Sat, 12/02/2017 - 3:59pm
Since no Democrats were consulted on it's content, were involved writing it, or voted for it, I realize it satisfied Republican causes not Democrat.
by NCD on Sat, 12/02/2017 - 5:09pm
So the GOP leadership got all but one Republican to sign on to a bill most Republicans supported. This made the bill more favorable for Democratic Party members. .........Alrighty then. Democrats should be rejoicing. The poor and the middle class should be glad.
Talk about lipstick on a pig.
by rmrd0000 on Sat, 12/02/2017 - 9:14pm
What were the last-minute changes to the Senate tax bill?
Dec 2, 2017 4:10 pm ES @ PBS News Hour
by artappraiser on Sat, 12/02/2017 - 4:31pm
In a separate video, Senator Elizabeth Warren, Democrat of Massachusetts, held up a stack of legislative text and tried to read the changes that the Republicans had made. She struggled to make sense of the garbled language and lamented that she could not possibly read the bill in the hour or so before the expected vote.
From
A Hasty, Hand-Scribbled Tax Bill Sets Off an Outcry
By Jim Tankersly & Alan Rappeport @ NYTimes.com, Dec. 1
by artappraiser on Sat, 12/02/2017 - 11:34pm
Even here, seeing the same complainf with the exact same text maybe hurts more than helps. I would have liked to se 12 examples - in one way this example is outrageous, in another, it's just "read the goddam written text already, it ain't that tough, not pretty but stop whining".
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 12/02/2017 - 11:38pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 12/02/2017 - 11:36pm
“The hypocrisy is astounding”: this tax bill shows the GOP’s debt concerns were pure fraud
Republicans are proving themselves nihilists.
by artappraiser on Sun, 12/03/2017 - 12:25am
by artappraiser on Sun, 12/03/2017 - 1:29am